Jesus saves another one from steroids

[Archer77]

So you're really not very bright, are you?

Bright enough to point out the Mediterranean region on the map.  According to your criteria for intelligence that makes me pretty smart.  Thank you, I appreciate the compliment.

[The Ugly]

There is/was no Jesus.

[jephrius]

Bright enough to point out the Mediterranean region on the map.  According to your criteria for intelligence that makes me pretty smart.  Thank you, I appreciate the compliment.

I had actually asked for a brief synopsis on 18th century Church history in the Mediterranean region. Your inability to do so prompted the rhetorical question of your ability to indicate it's whereabouts on a map.

[MCWAY]

There is/was no Jesus.

Actually, there was. He's been historically verified more times than I care to count.

[The Ugly]

Actually, there was. He's been historically verified more times than I care to count.

Only in religious text.

[MCWAY]

Only in religious text.

Nope! There are at least a dozen non-religious text that cite the existence of Jesus Christ.

[jephrius]

The Archer, The Ugly and their ilk have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Just parrotin what they've heard said about religion on bodybuilding forums.

[The Ugly]

Nope! There are at least a dozen non-religious text that cite the existence of Jesus Christ.

Can you cite something?

[MCWAY]

Can you cite something?

The works of Tacitus is one such source. Book 15, chapter 44:

Such indeed were the precautions of human wisdom. The next thing was to seek means of propitiating the gods, and recourse was had to the Sibylline books, by the direction of which prayers were offered to Vulcanus, Ceres, and Proserpina. Juno, too, was entreated by the matrons, first, in the Capitol, then on the nearest part of the coast, whence water was procured to sprinkle the fane and image of the goddess. And there were sacred banquets and nightly vigils celebrated by married women. But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.

[The Ugly]

The works of Tacitus is one such source. Book 15, chapter 44:

Such indeed were the precautions of human wisdom. The next thing was to seek means of propitiating the gods, and recourse was had to the Sibylline books, by the direction of which prayers were offered to Vulcanus, Ceres, and Proserpina. Juno, too, was entreated by the matrons, first, in the Capitol, then on the nearest part of the coast, whence water was procured to sprinkle the fane and image of the goddess. And there were sacred banquets and nightly vigils celebrated by married women. But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.

Thank you. I stand corrected.

[Straw Man]

The works of Tacitus is one such source. Book 15, chapter 44:

Such indeed were the precautions of human wisdom. The next thing was to seek means of propitiating the gods, and recourse was had to the Sibylline books, by the direction of which prayers were offered to Vulcanus, Ceres, and Proserpina. Juno, too, was entreated by the matrons, first, in the Capitol, then on the nearest part of the coast, whence water was procured to sprinkle the fane and image of the goddess. And there were sacred banquets and nightly vigils celebrated by married women. But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.

this basically is a source that lends support that groups of people who, called themselves or were called, "christians" existed back then

is that your point ?

[MCWAY]

this basically is a source that lends support that groups of people who, called themselves or were called, "christians" existed back then

is that your point ?

And on whom was this group based again?


If you follow the posts, you'll get the point.

[Straw Man]

Try following the posts. You'll get the point.

what I stated is the only possible point you've made so far

Scientologists exist today

does that mean Xenu is real ?

[MCWAY]

what I stated is the only possible point you've made so far

Scientologists exist today

does that mean Xenu is real ?

That simply means you don't read very well. The claim was that there was no Jesus and there was no documentation of His existence outside religious text. That is simply incorrect.

What I posted was simply one of several non-religious text that cite the existence of Jesus Christ, specifically describing Him as the origin of the group known as Christian, when He was put to death, and who ordered His execution.

[Straw Man]

That simply means you don't read very well. The claim was that there was no Jesus and there was no documentation of His existence outside religious text. That is simply incorrect.

What I posted was simply one of several non-religious text that cite the existence of Jesus Christ, specifically describing Him as the origin of the group known as Christian, when He was put to death, and who ordered His execution.

the reference to a Christus or Christ is not a name or a person

it's a title

the historical figure you refer to as Jesus Christ could very well have existed but this is a reference (contemporaneous to the author) about a group of people called "christians"

[deceiver]

I had actually asked for a brief synopsis on 18th century Church history in the Mediterranean region. Your inability to do so prompted the rhetorical question of your ability to indicate it's whereabouts on a map.

Who fucking cares about history of some random pathetic cult? Who cares about history anyway? What you americans don't get is even a monkey can learn facts. It's solving REAL problems that makes one intelligent, not dabbling in some ancient bullshit.

[Parker]

It´s not Jesus´ fault....he never existed.   

Are you sure Hey-Zeus never existed, or are you parroting another one of those "popular" beliefs?

I don't believe Uncle Sam exists, but every April 15th, he says, "Bitch, better have my money!"

[gracie bjj]

people are fools if they believe there is a higher being lookin out for us, go tell that jesus crap to parents whos kids are dying of cancer in the hospital 

[Parker]

people are fools if they believe there is a higher being lookin out for us, go tell that jesus crap to parents whos kids are dying of cancer in the hospital 

"Jesus loves your child...you just made the wrong decision on who you had a child with."

[Jon Harridan]

Praise the Lord, hallelujah!

[NarcissisticDeity]

"Jesus loves your child...you just made the wrong decision on who you had a child with."

LMFAO what backwards ass logic this is , Jesus is God , God created everything including the cancer that kills humans

[gracie bjj]

LMFAO what backwards ass logic this is , Jesus is God , God created everything including the cancer that kills humans

it was the womens fault, they are evil. it supposedly was eve that bit adams cock off in the garden of eden, women are very evil and you young guys should take heed

[NarcissisticDeity]

it was the womens fault, they are evil. it supposedly was eve that bit adams cock off in the garden of eden, women are very evil and you young guys should take heed

Christianity has always had a long disdain for women , no surprise

blame can never be assigned to God 

[gracie bjj]

i just threw my bible out my window and when i cut my lawn later im gonna shred it

[gracie bjj]

im turning to satanism and see if the devil has some better offers, gods only around when the goings good, once shit hits the fan he bolts