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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #125 on: June 08, 2012, 02:09:33 PM »
That is the most separated back in those shots that has ever stepped foot on stage
And if these Ronnie nuthuggers would check the scoresheets, they would know that Dorian's 6 year reign was far more dominant based on judging scorecards. The Ronnie and Haney reign were a struggle for them, both losing rounds to multiple competitors.... Dorians reign was a flawless victory, never lost a single round.

Ronnie lost rounds to Flex, Kevin, and Jay, lost a show to Gunter (lol) and then lost to Jay.

Note,; both Kevin and Flex looked better while competing in Dorian's era and they both couldn't put a dent in Dorians armour. So you guys are entitled to your opinion and you can say Ronnie was better all you want but not one person on here can claim the judges would give Ronnie the win, based on the track record of the IFBB judging, without a doubt Dorian wins.

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Ronnie at his absolute best in 1998 just barely beat Flex by the skin of his teeth in one of the closest Mr Olympias ever !! 3 fucking points and Flex was no where near his prime

Dorian at the 1993 Mr Olympia completely dominated a ' prime '  Flex who never looked as good as he did after 1993

2002 he almost lost to Kevin , 2001 he did lose the entire prejudging to Jay , 2002 SOS he loses to Gunther , 2004 only beat Jay by 3 points , dropped to 4th place in his last Olympia

" RONNIE IS UNTOUCHABLE " yeah sure he is  ::)

Dorian in his first Olympia in only his third pro show placed second behind a career best Lee Haney and despite being 10lbs lighter BEAT Haney in the muscularity round

Dorian NEVER placed below second place in ANY professional contest

Won 15 out of 17 contests

And these idiots scratch their heads wondering how anyone could think Dorian could beat Ronnie LMFAO

The odds favor Dorian , the criteria favors Dorian , Ronnie at his absolute best would have a fuck of a time beating Dorian


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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #126 on: June 08, 2012, 02:21:07 PM »
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Ronnie at his absolute best in 1998 just barely beat Flex by the skin of his teeth in one of the closest Mr Olympias ever !! 3 fucking points and Flex was no where near his prime

In all fairness, the judges did seem to overlook Ronnie initially.  I know what the points indicated, but pose for pose, I thought Ronnie won the '98 Olympia quite handily.

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Dorian at the 1993 Mr Olympia completely dominated a ' prime '  Flex who never looked as good as he did after 1993

2002 he almost lost to Kevin , 2001 he did lose the entire prejudging to Jay , 2002 SOS he loses to Gunther , 2004 only beat Jay by 3 points , dropped to 4th place in his last Olympia

All true, and that does shoot down the idea that Ronnie was untouchable.

But at his very BEST, I do think he was untouchable except for the likes of a career-best Dozzer.  Between their respective best shapes, I think it could be a close contest.  Dorian would be bigger and more dense, but Ronnie's smaller waist and natural width wouldn't make him look small next to Dorian.  Conditioning-wise, both men would have cuts where the other didn't.  Ronnie's calves would be a bit weak and Dorian's arms wouldn't "pop" like Ronnie's. 

I think Dorian would win by virtue of taking more of the compulsories, but I also think a large contingent would scream bloody murder over Ronnie losing with his high-peaked biceps and good crab poses. 

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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2012, 02:23:06 PM »
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Ronnie at his absolute best in 1998 just barely beat Flex by the skin of his teeth in one of the closest Mr Olympias ever !! 3 fucking points and Flex was no where near his prime

Dorian at the 1993 Mr Olympia completely dominated a ' prime '  Flex who never looked as good as he did after 1993

2002 he almost lost to Kevin , 2001 he did lose the entire prejudging to Jay , 2002 SOS he loses to Gunther , 2004 only beat Jay by 3 points , dropped to 4th place in his last Olympia

" RONNIE IS UNTOUCHABLE " yeah sure he is

Dorian in his first Olympia in only his third pro show placed second behind a career best Lee Haney and despite being 10lbs lighter BEAT Haney in the muscularity round

Dorian NEVER placed below second place in ANY professional contest

Won 15 out of 17 contests

And these idiots scratch their heads wondering how anyone could think Dorian could beat Ronnie LMFAO

The odds favor Dorian , the criteria favors Dorian , Ronnie at his absolute best would have a fuck of a time beating Dorian

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the 93 Mr. Olympia was not Flex's prime. In fact, I have never seen any expert say that was the best version of Flex. It doesn't matter if it was the same year as the 93 Ironman and 93 ASC. Physiques can change from contest to contest. So you saying that Dorian "dominated a prime Flex" is just spewing nonsense. This also brings up a contradiction in your posts. You've said before that a prime Flex could beat Dorian. So if Flex was at his prime at the 93 Mr. Olympia, then how could he get "dominated" like you say?

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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #128 on: June 08, 2012, 02:29:28 PM »
" RONNIE IS UNTOUCHABLE " yeah sure he is

that quote refers to Ronnie when he is at his best. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by referencing that quote and then bringing up years when Ronnie was off. Even your holy grail of bodybuilding, Flex magazine, has stated numerous times that a prime Ronnie had the best physique of all-time. There is no bodybuilder, past or present, that could have beaten him. So yes, he is untouchable ;)

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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #129 on: June 08, 2012, 02:47:00 PM »
Quoted for lies and misconception

the 93 Mr. Olympia was not Flex's prime. In fact, I have never seen any expert say that was the best version of Flex. It doesn't matter if it was the same year as the 93 Ironman and 93 ASC. Physiques can change from contest to contest. So you saying that Dorian "dominated a prime Flex" is just spewing nonsense. This also brings up a contradiction in your posts. You've said before that a prime Flex could beat Dorian. So if Flex was at his prime at the 93 Mr. Olympia, then how could he get "dominated" like you say?

Can you be any more dense? notice the word ' prime ' in quotations , prime year 1993  ;)

And I did say a prime 1993 ASC Flex could bat Dorian and even then I doubt if what's the only difference between Flex at the Arnold and the Olympia was conditioning and even then he's still behind Yates

I noticed you didn't touch anything else because you can't   ;)

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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #130 on: June 08, 2012, 02:54:46 PM »
that quote refers to Ronnie when he is at his best. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by referencing that quote and then bringing up years when Ronnie was off. Even your holy grail of bodybuilding, Flex magazine, has stated numerous times that a prime Ronnie had the best physique of all-time. There is no bodybuilder, past or present, that could have beaten him. So yes, he is untouchable ;)

I actually was referring to that quote specifically , I was referring to all the fan boys ( yourself included ) hence it was all in CAPS

So Flex magazine said no bodybuilder could have beaten him and? Ronnie said he couldn't touch Dorian multiple times everyone has an opinion , facts are different and the facts Show Dorian was the most dominate Olympia winner and statistically he would beat Ronnie  ;)

Fact Ronnie at his best Olympia 1998 just barely beat Flex , Fact Dorian dominated Flex always , therefore Dorian at his best would trample Ronnie at his , Fact Flex was better when he competed against Dorian

Ronnie never faced anyone as good as Dorian , oh wait he did and he was miles behind  ;D

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« Reply #131 on: June 08, 2012, 02:55:15 PM »
Can you be any more dense? notice the word ' prime ' in quotations , prime year 1993

doesn't matter. Dishonesty is still dishonesty. Even if we play dumb and believe that you weren't trying to bolster your argument by using 93 Mr. Olympia and prime Flex in the same sentence, then who were you quoting? I don't know any expert that believes Flex was at his best at the 93 Mr. O

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« Reply #132 on: June 08, 2012, 02:58:31 PM »
I actually was referring to that quote specifically , I was referring to all the fan boys ( yourself included ) hence it was all in CAPS

So Flex magazine said no bodybuilder could have beaten him and? Ronnie said he couldn't touch Dorian multiple times everyone has an opinion , facts are different and the facts Show Dorian was the most dominate Olympia winner and statistically he would beat Ronnie

Fact Ronnie at his best Olympia 1998 just barely beat Flex , Fact Dorian dominated Flex always , therefore Dorian at his best would trample Ronnie at his , Fact Flex was better when he competed against Dorian

Ronnie never faced anyone as good as Dorian , oh wait he did and he was miles behind

I see 03 Mr. Olympia and 01 ASC listed as Ronnie's peak, but I don't see 98 Mr Olympia




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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #133 on: June 08, 2012, 03:02:50 PM »
doesn't matter. Dishonesty is still dishonesty. Even if we play dumb and believe that you weren't trying to bolster your argument by using 93 Mr. Olympia and prime Flex in the same sentence, then who were you quoting? I don't know any expert that believes Flex was at his best at the 93 Mr. O

LMFAO dishonesty kid go away come back when you have something fan boy

I know flex wasn't his best at the Olympia and typed it many times , stop fishing because you have nothing else

Ronnie would be lucky to beat Dorian , and hard pressed


Flex at near his career best places a very distant second to Dorian in 1993 and says Dorian is ' Unbeatable '

Flex past his prime places second behind Ronnie at what fan boys call his best ever in 1999 Flex turns his back on Ronnie and says he's number 1 , Shawn Ray agrees lol

This is supposed to beat Dorian?




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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #134 on: June 08, 2012, 03:06:53 PM »
I see 03 Mr. Olympia and 01 ASC listed as Ronnie's peak, but I don't see 98 Mr Olympia



Oh now we're gonna play stupid? again Flex has their opinion , Ronnie his own how about the multiple times he said 1998 was his best because  , how about Joe Weider? wanna post that quote?  ;)  Shawn Perine? I can continue but you know better


lol 2003 his best  ;D yeah buddy

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« Reply #135 on: June 08, 2012, 03:07:56 PM »
LMFAO dishonesty kid go away come back when you have something fan boy

adults resort to petty insults in arguments when they are intellectually trumped ;)

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Ronnie would be lucky to beat Dorian , and hard pressed

too bad there is not a single credible bodybuilding expert who shares your opinion

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Flex at near his career best places a very distant second to Dorian in 1993 and says Dorian is ' Unbeatable '

Flex past his prime places second behind Ronnie at what fan boys call his best ever in 1999 Flex turns his back on Ronnie and says he's number 1 , Shawn Ray agrees lol

lol, you're quoting the same guy who had this to say about Ronnie:

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

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« Reply #136 on: June 08, 2012, 03:13:23 PM »
Oh now we're gonna play stupid? again Flex has their opinion , Ronnie his own how about the multiple times he said 1998 was his best because  , how about Joe Weider? wanna post that quote?   Shawn Perine? I can continue but you know better

funny how the guys you mentioned said Ronnie has the best physique ever ;)

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived. "

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« Reply #137 on: June 08, 2012, 03:21:21 PM »
adults resort to petty insults in arguments when they are intellectually trumped ;)

too bad there is not a single credible bodybuilding expert who shares your opinion

lol, you're quoting the same guy who had this to say about Ronnie:

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."


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adults resort to petty insults in arguments when they are intellectually trumped ;)

Says the guy who called someone a ' dirty Mexican ' how soon we forget and there is NO argument just you trolling in another Dorian Yates thread , still trying to prove Ronnie really was better


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too bad there is not a single credible bodybuilding expert who shares your opinion

key word my opinion , don't need to follow the masses I think for myself

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lol, you're quoting the same guy who had this to say about Ronnie:

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

He was technically correct because Dorian never competed at such a heavy weight , has nothing to do with if Dorian could beat him , Dorian at his best would make Ronnie 2003 look soft , soggy and a mismatched collection of parts , Ronnie 1998/2001 stands more of chance than that wreck

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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #138 on: June 08, 2012, 05:35:46 PM »
funny how the guys you mentioned said Ronnie has the best physique ever ;)

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived. "


This is your quote Neo I see 03 Mr. Olympia and 01 ASC listed as Ronnie's peak, but I don't see 98 Mr Olympia

And then what do you do? post a quote showing 1998 as the best Ronnie looked  ;) nice backfire  ;D

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."



You always posted this quote and I always took it on faith it was accurate but for some odd reason I decided to follow the link and boy you played with that quote to make appear they were saying Ronnie 2001 is the ' best ever ' and ' unbeatable ' the quote how you rearranged it to fit your point of view

 
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"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

Now how the quote actually appears

We'’ve said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which you won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever, unbeatable. Any thoughts about returning to that weight and look?

They were NOT talking about the best physique ever in the history of bodybuilding just his personal best physique and it was ' unbeatable ' when compared to the guys who he was competing with.

In context they were mentioning his physique and how he looked better lighter , you deliberately took it out of context to fit your agenda lol  I'm glad you were stupid enough to post the link  ;D

your quote adults resort to petty insults in arguments when they are intellectually trumped

dummies who rearrange quotes to try and prove their point of view concede that they are ' intellectually trumped ' LMFAO

Being a predictable dolt you are you'll look for an escape in semantics and try and divert your stupidity in word games but let me spare you don't waste your breath  ;)


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Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived. "

Every single quote YOU now post is suspect because of your shenanigans above , it's a shame multiple members of Team Coleman have been reduced to using ' enhanced ' photos , and outright making up quotes lol long history of trying anything you can to prove somehow Ronnie really was better lol

Now entertaining that the quote is accurate , Perine is technically correct , Ronnie is arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived. He has the most career wins and tied Haney for 8 straight Sandows , I don't have a problem with that. Has absolutely nothing to do with if Ronnie could beat Dorian at their respective bests  ;)


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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #139 on: June 08, 2012, 06:26:07 PM »
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And if these Ronnie nuthuggers would check the scoresheets, they would know that Dorian's 6 year reign was far more dominant based on judging scorecards. The Ronnie and Haney reign were a struggle for them, both losing rounds to multiple competitors.... Dorians reign was a flawless victory, never lost a single round.


problem is, if you looked up from the scoresheets to the STAGE, you would see that dorian was given multiple gifts on many occasions, should have lost in 94 for sure, arguably in 96 and 97 etc.

it is a flawless demonstration of how poor the judging was implemented.

flawless victor in the symetry rounds: hahahaa what a joke: ::)
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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #140 on: June 08, 2012, 06:34:47 PM »
problem is, if you looked up from the scoresheets to the STAGE, you would see that dorian was given multiple gifts on many occasions, should have lost in 94 for sure, arguably in 96 and 97 etc.

it is a flawless demonstration of how poor the judging was implemented.

flawless victor in the symetry rounds: hahahaa what a joke: ::)

Thanks again for proving you don't know how contests are judged , there is NO ' symmetry ' round all rounds are physique rounds , and Dorian could lost the poses where his affected biceps is shown and still win the contest because the high & low scores are tossed out ! he could lose a couple of mandatory poses and still win the contest

after all these years you still don't get how it works  :-\

Ronnie when you look at the scorecards and the stage didn't dominate like Dorian did it's a fact kid

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« Reply #141 on: June 08, 2012, 06:54:10 PM »
doesn't matter. Dishonesty is still dishonesty. Even if we play dumb and believe that you weren't trying to bolster your argument by using 93 Mr. Olympia and prime Flex in the same sentence, then who were you quoting? I don't know any expert that believes Flex was at his best at the 93 Mr. O
Bro who the fuck gives a shit if Flex was at his best at the 93 O, why the fuck do you care to argue that, no one cares if Flex was better at the ac in 93 or at the O in 93, THE MAIN POINT IS AND THE ONLY POINT IS THAT FLEX WAS BETTER AT THE 93 O VS THE 98 O, That's all that matters and that is enough to prove that Dorian 93 would beat 98 Ronnie

You sound stupid arguing a point that has nothing to do with the main argument, wooooooooooooooooooooooo shhh

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« Reply #142 on: June 08, 2012, 07:31:57 PM »
/end life.
I suggest every person posting here, that contributed to the original "Hulkster Truce Thread", do the same.

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« Reply #143 on: June 08, 2012, 09:52:55 PM »
Says the guy who called someone a ' dirty Mexican ' how soon we forget and there is NO argument just you trolling in another Dorian Yates thread , still trying to prove Ronnie really was better

lol, show me where I said that. Even if I did call someone that, it was a long time ago and I've evolved beyond that. Clearly you haven't matured hence why you still feel the need to use petty insults in an argument

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key word my opinion , don't need to follow the masses I think for myself

sorry brah, but your opinion means crap. Not only is it contradicted by visual evidence but the experts who have seen BOTH men at their prime agree that Ronnie > Dorian.

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He was technically correct because Dorian never competed at such a heavy weight , has nothing to do with if Dorian could beat him , Dorian at his best would make Ronnie 2003 look soft , soggy and a mismatched collection of parts , Ronnie 1998/2001 stands more of chance than that wreck

Flex called Ronnie the biggest and most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. If that wasn't explicit enough for you, Flex goes on to call Ronnie the greatest Mr. Olympia in history (i.e. better than Dorian)

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« Reply #144 on: June 08, 2012, 10:01:15 PM »
You always posted this quote and I always took it on faith it was accurate but for some odd reason I decided to follow the link and boy you played with that quote to make appear they were saying Ronnie 2001 is the ' best ever ' and ' unbeatable ' the quote how you rearranged it to fit your point of view
 
Now how the quote actually appears

We'’ve said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which you won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever, unbeatable. Any thoughts about returning to that weight and look?

They were NOT talking about the best physique ever in the history of bodybuilding just his personal best physique and it was ' unbeatable ' when compared to the guys who he was competing with.

In context they were mentioning his physique and how he looked better lighter , you deliberately took it out of context to fit your agenda lol  I'm glad you were stupid enough to post the link

epic reading comprehension. They clearly refer to Ronnie's 01 ASC physique as the best ever. This is corroborated by individual quotes from the members of Team Flex. lol @ you trying to twist the quote around to suit your agenda

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

"As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #145 on: June 09, 2012, 05:06:48 AM »
lol, show me where I said that. Even if I did call someone that, it was a long time ago and I've evolved beyond that. Clearly you haven't matured hence why you still feel the need to use petty insults in an argument

sorry brah, but your opinion means crap. Not only is it contradicted by visual evidence but the experts who have seen BOTH men at their prime agree that Ronnie > Dorian.

Flex called Ronnie the biggest and most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. If that wasn't explicit enough for you, Flex goes on to call Ronnie the greatest Mr. Olympia in history (i.e. better than Dorian)

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lol, show me where I said that. Even if I did call someone that, it was a long time ago and I've evolved beyond that. Clearly you haven't matured hence why you still feel the need to use petty insults in an argument

" I've evolved " give me a fucking break  ::) now Neo wants to act like an adult after being one of the biggest shit talkers in these ' debates ' kid respect is earned and you haven't earned boy  ;)


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sorry brah, but your opinion means crap. Not only is it contradicted by visual evidence but the experts who have seen BOTH men at their prime agree that Ronnie > Dorian.

In the scheme of things my opinion does mean crap and I know this on Getbig my opinion means about as much however to YOU my opinion means a LOT because you follow me and the word Dorian Yates around trying prove me and my opinion wrong  8) and if you mean by ' visual evidence ' all of the enhanced pics Team Coleman put forth and the manipulated quotes you guys tried to pass off as ' experts who agree ' then I'm sure you believe that  ;D put in the end people have opinions and NONE of them matter except 13 judges and until you have that , you don't have nothing  ;)

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Flex called Ronnie the biggest and most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. If that wasn't explicit enough for you, Flex goes on to call Ronnie the greatest Mr. Olympia in history (i.e. better than Dorian)

See above on opinions and Flex also said Ronnie was leading the prejudging after the 2007 Mr Olympia which he way behind , Flex also said if he showed up to the 1998 Mr Olympia in the shape he did of the 1998 ASC he would have easily beaten Ronnie , I'm sure you agree with Flex there as well lmfao , he has an opinion which you're trying to pass off as fact and it's not

You keep typing it's been confirmed by the experts and the visual evidence that Ronnie beats Dorian and yet here you still are trying to prove it true lol years latter still trying to convince people in another Dorian Yates thread that Ronnie really is better lmfao keep trying kid

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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #146 on: June 09, 2012, 05:41:33 AM »
epic reading comprehension. They clearly refer to Ronnie's 01 ASC physique as the best ever. This is corroborated by individual quotes from the members of Team Flex. lol @ you trying to twist the quote around to suit your agenda

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

"As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"



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epic reading comprehension. They clearly refer to Ronnie's 01 ASC physique as the best ever. This is corroborated by individual quotes from the members of Team Flex. lol @ you trying to twist the quote around to suit your agenda

You took it out of context , has nothing to do with reading comprehension. they refer to Ronnie's physique at the 01 as HIS best ever  ;)

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lol @ you trying to twist the quote around to suit your agenda

this is why you will never be taken seriously , project much?  :-\

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Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Another quote you took out of context to try and twist it to suit your point of view lol just when I thought you couldn't be any more dumb , you don't disappoint

The actually quote

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."


Oppps forgot tp mention Dorian didn't you?  ;) and two this quote has been amended oppss forgot to post that one huh?

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

That's been amended bro you can stop using it  ;)

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"As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable."

Oppsss another quote Neo took out of context LMFAO your stupidity knows no bounds , here is the original

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.


Oh noes Neo omitted the part where he says ' Except by Dorian Yates ' LMFAO I honestly love when you try and come into Yates threads and spout off like you know what you're talking about and then you get bashed over the head and reminded how stupid you are  ;D

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"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

I love the fact that you glossed over that this was posed as a question hence the question mark at the end. and to answer the question , Yes. Dorian Yates at the 1993 and 1995 Mr Olympias displayed a more muscular , more shredded , higher-quality physique



Now we are we? Neo in yet another Dorian Yates thread manipulating quotes , taking them out of context trying in some cheap attempt to prove Ronnie really was better lol the more things change the more the remain the same. You're a joke kid you can't be taken seriously only laughed at and ridiculed when you're reduced to this nonsense. Come back when you wanna get bitch slapped some more  ;)



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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #147 on: June 09, 2012, 05:46:11 AM »
Bro who the fuck gives a shit if Flex was at his best at the 93 O, why the fuck do you care to argue that, no one cares if Flex was better at the ac in 93 or at the O in 93, THE MAIN POINT IS AND THE ONLY POINT IS THAT FLEX WAS BETTER AT THE 93 O VS THE 98 O, That's all that matters and that is enough to prove that Dorian 93 would beat 98 Ronnie

You sound stupid arguing a point that has nothing to do with the main argument, wooooooooooooooooooooooo shhh

Exactly , typical Neo though not to smart this one , he likes to try and act the role put he's not to bright.

And ' dishonesty is dishonesty ' when I just busted his stupid ass for taking two quotes out of context

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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #148 on: June 09, 2012, 05:52:28 AM »
/end life.
I suggest every person posting here, that contributed to the original "Hulkster Truce Thread", do the same.

Actually it's a Dorian Yates thread , every Ronnie fan-boy needs to stay out. This is exactly why I say they honestly don't think Ronnie is better if that were the case they wouldn't be in here years latter trying to prove it

I walked away from that Truce thread years ago and like lost little puppies they all followed me and the name Dorian Yates

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Re: two pics of yates very good quality
« Reply #149 on: June 09, 2012, 06:36:48 AM »
" I've evolved " give me a fucking break now Neo wants to act like an adult after being one of the biggest shit talkers in these ' debates ' kid respect is earned and you haven't earned boy

lol, keep bringing up stuff that happened years ago. That's all the ammo you have. How sad that you haven't moved on from the past. It's been years since I used to post regularly in the Truce thread. I've grown up since then, but sadly you are still the same mental midget that used to post in there.

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In the scheme of things my opinion does mean crap and I know this on Getbig my opinion means about as much however to YOU my opinion means a LOT because you follow me and the word Dorian Yates around trying prove me and my opinion wrong and if you mean by ' visual evidence ' all of the enhanced pics Team Coleman put forth and the manipulated quotes you guys tried to pass off as ' experts who agree ' then I'm sure you believe that put in the end people have opinions and NONE of them matter except 13 judges and until you have that , you don't have nothing

epic delusions of self-grandeur. I didn't even post on GetBig for almost a year. Ask Iceman.

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See above on opinions and Flex also said Ronnie was leading the prejudging after the 2007 Mr Olympia which he way behind , Flex also said if he showed up to the 1998 Mr Olympia in the shape he did of the 1998 ASC he would have easily beaten Ronnie , I'm sure you agree with Flex there as well lmfao , he has an opinion which you're trying to pass off as fact and it's not

You keep typing it's been confirmed by the experts and the visual evidence that Ronnie beats Dorian and yet here you still are trying to prove it true lol years latter still trying to convince people in another Dorian Yates thread that Ronnie really is better lmfao keep trying kid

you're the one who brought up Flex in this thread like his opinion mattered. Now you're trying to discredit the same guy b/c your tactic backfired on you? Lmao

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."