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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #350 on: June 16, 2012, 08:54:24 AM »
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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #351 on: June 16, 2012, 09:25:09 AM »
lol @ you pretending it's impossible to tell thickness from a pic. There is a thing called shading that artists use to make a 2D picture have depth. Looking at pics of Ronnie and Dorian, Ronnie has more back thickness in the rear double biceps pose. Whereas Dorian's back looks like a 2D anatomy chart, Ronnie's looks like a walking anatomy chart with nooks and crevices between individual muscles.

look again. Someone edited the two of them together. You can clearly see a line down the middle where someone cropped the pic.

try again, kiddo. The experts who have seen both men don't even mention Dorian in the same sentence when they talk about size ;)

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"For whatever faults he may possess, Ronnie Coleman is quite possibly the most impressive physical specimen walking the earth today. Pictures do not do him justice. When he stands relaxed muscle literally hangs from his frame, as if his skin can no longer support the pendulous masses of flesh he has forged with untold tons of iron and steel. It’s difficult to imagine anyone surpassing Big Ron’s level of mass in this, or any, lifetime."

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"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

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lol @ you pretending it's impossible to tell thickness from a pic. There is a thing called shading that artists use to make a 2D picture have depth. Looking at pics of Ronnie and Dorian, Ronnie has more back thickness in the rear double biceps pose. Whereas Dorian's back looks like a 2D anatomy chart, Ronnie's looks like a walking anatomy chart with nooks and crevices between individual muscles.

It is impossible to tell who is thicker via 2D pictures absolutely. And there is this thing thta's called shading that artists use to make a 2D picture APPEAR to have depth. You under NO circumstances tell whose back is thicker by two separate photos

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look again. Someone edited the two of them together. You can clearly see a line down the middle where someone cropped the pic.


It actually was edited HOWEVER this is both of them on-stage at the same time at the same contest , why it was edited is because Dorian hit the shot first and then relaxed and Ronnie hit it right after. That pic is more accurate than anything you ever posted because it's both of them live and on-stage at the same time. Albeit Ronnie isn't his best and neither is Dorian but what this does is give us a more accurate depiction of reality when Ronnie is at 250lbs and so is Dorian , that is how Ronnie 2001 would look next to just Dorian 1993/1995 Olympia nevermind Dorian precontest at 269lbs

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try again, kiddo. The experts who have seen both men don't even mention Dorian in the same sentence when they talk about size ;)

Neo this has NOTHING to do with Ronnie at his best 2001 ASC or 1998 Mr Olympia you know 247/249lbs. Ronnie at his best wouldn't make Dorian look small at all and even Ronnie at heavier weights would have a size advantage but fall apart on density & dryness and balance & proportion

Neo this is them both on the same stage at the same time both 250lbs or so no edit Dorian would crush Ronnie at his best and that's not Dorian precontest either. The other pic was made to make it more fair to Ronnie because he didn't hit the pose yet and it was demolished either way

Sorry Neo Ronnie at 247lbs isn't touching Yates at his best

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #352 on: June 16, 2012, 09:49:22 AM »
Poor ND, caught in another one of his lies. Here is the original video - not the stretched version you keep using ;)


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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #353 on: June 16, 2012, 09:52:23 AM »
Poor ND, caught in another one of his lies. Here is the original video - not the stretched version you keep using ;)


Sigh...

A. Slightly different positions, Dorian in yours is turned, in ND's he's facing the camera square.

B. Both people are stretched. Its not like Dorian is carrying some advantage from the stretched image that Ronnie isnt (In the above pic)

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #354 on: June 16, 2012, 10:05:53 AM »
ok, please do not take this offensive at all, no disrespect intended. Your discription and assessment is an accurate one from a fan base point of view but way off from the ifbb judging point of view, let me explain, first of all to the IFBB judges there is no such thing as Calves being to big for your legs, NO SUCH THING, in fact Dorian got rewarded for his calves, never got docked for them being to big, again this is from the judges eyes, not from a fans opinion cause I actually agree with you that his calves where bigger then his legs (proportions).

Next,... we have the flaws you mentioned, true, very true, but the ones that have what Dorian is missing are a dime a dozen and what Dorian has that everyone else is missing is 1 in a million, Granite hard muscles is the single most important feature in bodybuilding to the judges cause it is a very rare occurance on stage which is the reason why they keep rewarding someone like Branch, cause his grainyness, what he lacks is common but what he has is uncommon and Dorian is yet way more grainy then Branch, again this is what's best in the judges eyes only, someone like you has a different view, fair enough.

No disrespect to you either dude, it's all good. But you basically said the same thing i did. The difference being you agree with it and i don't.

he IFBB judging "point of view" should be to use the judging criteria, which is very clear, to the letter....., and they don't. They shouldn't be making up there own set of rules as they go along, and rewarding conditioned  mass over everything else.
 

Branch Warren...."grainy" ?  you have seen him from the back right?  the word "Nasser" comes to mind more than grainy

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #355 on: June 16, 2012, 10:14:08 AM »
Poor ND, caught in another one of his lies. Here is the original video - not the stretched version you keep using ;)



oh boy this is your response? those pic I posted were from the first time that video was posted so don't blame me and second NOTHING changes Neo at all Dorian is still bigger and wider despite being about 5lbs heavier

Nothing changes Dorian would make Ronnie at his best look small , soft and mismatched parts


Neo this was where that video was from and it was posted well before the other so keep trying bro


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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #356 on: June 16, 2012, 10:16:12 AM »
Sigh...

A. Slightly different positions, Dorian in yours is turned, in ND's he's facing the camera square.

B. Both people are stretched. Its not like Dorian is carrying some advantage from the stretched image that Ronnie isnt (In the above pic)

That's Neo looking for anything to pay me back for because I just busted him using quotes he took out of context

Great point , both are stretched and NOTHING changes 

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #357 on: June 16, 2012, 10:16:58 AM »
Compare Dorian in the 96 grand prix to this and tell me the system is legit.

I don't think that i have ever seen a picture of Dorian where he didn't look like a bag of smashed assholes.

92 was his last good year and Labrada and Kevin beat him there.



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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #358 on: June 16, 2012, 10:20:27 AM »
Sigh...

A. Slightly different positions, Dorian in yours is turned, in ND's he's facing the camera square.

B. Both people are stretched. Its not like Dorian is carrying some advantage from the stretched image that Ronnie isnt (In the above pic)

A. Both are closer to hitting the pose compared to ND's screencap where Dorian's hands are clasped and Ronnie's in mid-pose

B. The stretched pic favors Dorian b/c it adds things that aren't really there. Dorian's legs actually look impressive in ND's pic but as you can see, they don't look anywhere near that in the real pic

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #359 on: June 16, 2012, 10:22:22 AM »
Oh boy this is your response? those pic I posted were from the first time that video was posted so don't blame me and second NOTHING changes Neo at all Dorian is still bigger and wider despite being about 5lbs heavier

Nothing changes Dorian would make Ronnie at his best look small , soft and mismatched parts

Neo this was where that video was from and it was posted well before the other so keep trying bro

poor little, ND. Caught in another lie but instead of apologizing, you go on the offensive like it's somehow our fault. You sound just like Sucky in the call out thread. I'm worried about you, brah :-\

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #360 on: June 16, 2012, 10:54:28 AM »
poor little, ND. Caught in another lie but instead of apologizing, you go on the offensive like it's somehow our fault. You sound just like Sucky in the call out thread. I'm worried about you, brah :-\

What lie?  ??? I posted a screencap from the original video , check the dates kid.  ;)

And Neo what changes? NOTHING both are stretched and Dorian is still wider and bigger despite a 5 lbs difference in the end you're looking to stray away from these facts ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #361 on: June 16, 2012, 10:58:16 AM »
A. Both are closer to hitting the pose compared to ND's screencap where Dorian's hands are clasped and Ronnie's in mid-pose

B. The stretched pic favors Dorian b/c it adds things that aren't really there. Dorian's legs actually look impressive in ND's pic but as you can see, they don't look anywhere near that in the real pic

It was already explained to you someone made that side-by-side to favor Ronnie because he wasn't hitting the pose , he put them side-by-side hitting the same shot and Dorian smokes him much in the same way he would Ronnie 2001

LMFAO either pic favors Dorian BOTH are stretched same result either way

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #362 on: June 16, 2012, 11:01:25 AM »
ND, come back to reality :-\


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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #363 on: June 16, 2012, 11:06:59 AM »
ND, come back to reality :-\



This is reality kid and this is how a 247lb Ronnie would look like next to Dorian  ;)

nothing changes Neo , keep fishing

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #364 on: June 16, 2012, 11:11:14 AM »
neo getting owned all over the place, just saying (and trolling) (no homo)

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #365 on: June 16, 2012, 11:12:58 AM »
neo getting owned all over the place, just saying (and trolling) (no homo)

As usual  ;D tried to say the video you posted wasn't the original , when you posted yours in 2010 and the other one was last month LMFAO

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« Reply #366 on: June 16, 2012, 11:22:01 AM »
This is reality kid and this is how a 247lb Ronnie would look like next to Dorian

1) that's not 01 ASC Ronnie. Even if both versions of Ronnie weighed the same, their conditioning are different
2) they are not hitting the same pose in the pic. Ronnie's arms are outstretched and Dorian's hands are clasped
3) Dorian was heavier than normal b/c it was after the Mr. Olympia. So he was bigger than the 93/95 Mr Olympia

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #367 on: June 16, 2012, 11:27:42 AM »
As usual  ;D tried to say the video you posted wasn't the original , when you posted yours in 2010 and the other one was last month LMFAO
i know, i ripped it straight from the blood and guts dvd. if there was any stretching i didnt do it.

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #368 on: June 16, 2012, 11:28:19 AM »
1) that's not 01 ASC Ronnie. Even if both versions of Ronnie weighed the same, their conditioning are different
2) they are not hitting the same pose in the pic. Ronnie's arms are outstretched and Dorian's hands are clasped
3) Dorian was heavier than normal b/c it was after the Mr. Olympia. So he was bigger than the 93/95 Mr Olympia

1) NO shit it's already been addressed I conceded Ronnie would be around the same size with better conditioning
2) NO shit again already been addressed as well , hence why I posted the comparison of them side-by-side hitting the post fully and Dorian still smokes him , you dejected bitched about me NOT using the original and it was the video you posted ago isn't  ;)
3) I love this assertion with NO proof what so ever , he's bigger because Neo says so  ::)


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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #369 on: June 16, 2012, 11:28:32 AM »
neo getting owned all over the place, just saying (and trolling) (no homo)

where did I get owned? lol

was it the part where I beat ND at the quote game?
was it the part when I showed the experts ND loves to quote even disagree with him?
was it the part where I exposed ND's lies?
how about when I caused ND to meltdown?
was it when I called out ND for making horribly biased comparisons with Dorian looking 10 ft tall next to Ronnie?
was it the part when I corrected ND after he used stretched pics of Dorian?

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #370 on: June 16, 2012, 11:31:17 AM »
i know, i ripped it straight from the blood and guts dvd. if there was any stretching i didnt do it.

I didn't accuse you or ND of stretching the pic. All I did was call out ND for purposely using a stretched photo that he knows isn't representative of how Dorian actually looked. I even posted the accurate video representation of that contest and ND still went on the offensive instead of apologize

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #371 on: June 16, 2012, 11:34:01 AM »
delta, how much did Dorian weigh at the 96 German GP?

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #372 on: June 16, 2012, 11:35:57 AM »
I didn't accuse you or ND of stretching the pic. All I did was call out ND for purposely using a stretched photo that he knows isn't representative of how Dorian actually looked. I even posted the accurate video representation of that contest and ND still went on the offensive instead of apologize

No you accused me of being caught in ' another lie ' again running man WHAT LIE? you accused me of not using the original , when in fact I did and the one you posted was added last month  ;) backfire Neo? you don't like when your own shit gets thrown back in your face do you?  ;D


I have nothing to apologize for because all I did is post a screen cap that SOMEONE else made from the original jackass , Neo you should not have come back for more now you're getting owned again LMFAO  ;D

It's stretched photo of Dorian AND Ronnie both are stretched and it still changes nothing , YOU fail on all levels 


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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #373 on: June 16, 2012, 11:37:49 AM »
delta, how much did Dorian weigh at the 96 German GP?

Dorian said he weighed 255lbs at the 1996 Olympia and Dorian usually lost weight after the Olympia in the GP , see 94 where he was 262 at the Olympia and dropped to 249lbs for the GPs

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Re: Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality
« Reply #374 on: June 16, 2012, 11:41:29 AM »
Neo imagine Dorian at his best next to Ronnie at 247lbs hehehehehehe