your assessment is correct. ND is wrong like usual. Peter McGough said, not once or twice, but on 3 separate occasions that 01 ASC Ronnie has the best physique he ever saw. He never once said Dorian has a better physique. The only mention McGough made is that a precontest Dorian could possibly touch Ronnie, but he never said Dorian would beat Ronnie. Of course, ND will deny this b/c he's too stubborn to admit defeat
Peter McGough - Flex, April 2002
"[Ronnie Coleman] bounced back to win the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic with a physique that may have been the best ever seen"
Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005
"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."
Peter McGough
"While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink."
your assessment is correct. ND is wrong like usual. Peter McGough said, not once or twice, but on 3 separate occasions that 01 ASC Ronnie has the best physique he ever saw. He never once said Dorian has a better physique. The only mention McGough made is that a precontest Dorian could possibly touch Ronnie, but he never said Dorian would beat Ronnie. Of course, ND will deny this b/c he's too stubborn to admit defeat
Wrong about what exactly? I don't need McGough to say Dorian is better than Ronnie I never needed him too. I was the one who posted the quotes originally recall?
I didn't fear his opinion then or now. And the best part is Neo? you outright called the guy an
idiot but now you need him to be correct when it suits your purposes
typical Neo hypocrite
Neo pay attention , there is NO ' defeat ' , because according to your logic you were defeated eons ago when Ronnie ( an expert , whom many consider the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived ) said three times he couldn't beat Dorian. and like I maintained always just because someone says it doesn't make it true , McGough and Ronnie included. Neo when you have 12 IFBB judges all saying Ronnie Coleman 2001ASC could beat Dorian Yates precontest 1993 then I would concede ' defeat ' until then you have opinions and there are many of them
Peter McGough - Flex, April 2002
"[Ronnie Coleman] bounced back to win the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic with a physique that may have been the best ever seen"
' may have ' key words go learn them
Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005
"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."
in my opinion , and contender. two more words you need to learn
Peter McGough
"While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink."
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Peter McGough
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
' Cause to rethink ' ' I'm not sure that Ronnie ( 2001 ) would beat Dorian at 269lbs. '
Now Neo this is the point you always miss. I don't need ANYONE to say Dorian would beat Ronnie to form my own opinion on why he would. Why would Dorian at 269lbs ( or 257lbs ) beat Ronnie? like I always said Dorian carries more muscular bulk ( 269lbs vs 244-247lbs ) Dorian has better balance AND proportion ( these are two separate entities Neo even though you didn't know that ) he's more complete , and is better at posing and presenting his physique to it's best
Now in contrast to you , your entire argument hinges on POPULARITY and you don't even fucking have that either
you know you can't argue Ronnie is better conditioned ( although you have
) you know you can't argue he has better balance & proportion ( and you have
) in fact you actually argued Ronnie carried more muscular bulk despite being lighter than Dorian ( really dude?
) and I don't think you ever argued he was better at posing & presentation ( but I wouldn't be surprised if you tried ) You can't argue he's more complete either
All you have left is POPULARITY. Look everyone I have a bunch of quotes saying Ronnie is the greatest ever LMFAO it's you who admitted defeat LONG ago when you tried at first to form some ignorant half-ass opinion on how Ronnie would beat Dorian ( not having a clue on how contests are judged until my ass showed you how the game is played ) and when you got utterly crushed on that front retreated and tried to you appeals to numbers and that failed too.
Neo I don't expect you to respond to this ( and meltdown isn't a response it's an admission of defeat ) because you can't counter this and never have in fact you tried to copy me verbatim on other boards.
I have the greatest bodybuilder of all-time admitting three separate occasions he could not beat Dorian.
Check mate.
