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Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« on: June 06, 2012, 01:33:51 PM »
Do you find it more beneficial to train a lagging body part once or twic a week?
I know they say DOMS dont mean muscle growth.... but I disagree even if it doesnt mean growth directly for me it means the muscle tissue has been taken out of its comfort zone and broken down. Do you guys get DOMS when a muscle is hit 2 times a week?
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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 01:38:02 PM »
from experience, lacking bodyparts can only be brought up by increasing the dosage.



In case you inject locally, yes.

Workout wise, train them first

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 01:39:00 PM »
Bringing up a lagging body = realm of fantasy if you've trained it hard before.
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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 01:39:06 PM »
I guess it all depends on how you train, particularly schedule-wise. My arms have lagged behind my chest and legs, so I put a second session for arms into my schedule. I've kept the rest periods the same. I've definitely noticed significant improvements in my arms in that time. I think most of us are genetically predispositioned to having certain body parts respond extremely well to less work, while other body parts need more stimulation.

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 01:42:29 PM »
no, thats not what i meant.

no site injections.

i meant increased overall dosage.

That would improve your overall mass, but also your balance?

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 01:47:29 PM »
I guess it all depends on how you train, particularly schedule-wise. My arms have lagged behind my chest and legs, so I put a second session for arms into my schedule. I've kept the rest periods the same. I've definitely noticed significant improvements in my arms in that time. I think most of us are genetically predispositioned to having certain body parts respond extremely well to less work, while other body parts need more stimulation.
thanks for the response... whats your split
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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 01:49:48 PM »
yeah, somehow it helps for balance, i have no clue how and why, but thats what works for me.

All I know is that GH has a good effect on roundness on the delts (never did GH myself).
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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 01:51:20 PM »
I got no lagging bodyparts.... 8)






































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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2012, 01:56:46 PM »
thanks for the response... whats your split

Basically a workout every other day, around an hour total with everything. 5 minute warm-up, bodypart or bodyparts, followed by abs and cardio.

   1. Biceps, Triceps
   2. Quads, Butt, Inner/Outer Thighs
   3. Back, Forearms
   4. Shoulders, Traps
   5. Biceps, Triceps
   6. Chest
   7. Hamstrings, Calves

Again, that's designed to focus on my particular lagging bodyparts in relation to my more responsive bodyparts. I want to keep everything in balance. Honestly, I'm still trying to find the right mix for my chest, as it's VERY responsive to training, but I find it difficult psychologically to cut back too much...

Also, approaching 40 this year and working out well over 20 years (always natural), I find I function best and get the best muscle building results with the extra rest such a split affords me.



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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2012, 02:01:41 PM »
Wow, you just revealed the secret, "Bill Loguidice"................ ::)

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2012, 02:02:26 PM »
Basically a workout every other day, around an hour total with everything. 5 minute warm-up, bodypart or bodyparts, followed by abs and cardio.

   1. Biceps, Triceps
   2. Quads, Butt, Inner/Outer Thighs
   3. Back, Forearms
   4. Shoulders, Traps
   5. Biceps, Triceps
   6. Chest
   7. Hamstrings, Calves

Again, that's designed to focus on my particular lagging bodyparts in relation to my more responsive bodyparts. I want to keep everything in balance. Honestly, I'm still trying to find the right mix for my chest, as it's VERY responsive to training, but I find it difficult psychologically to cut back too much...

Also, approaching 40 this year and working out well over 20 years (always natural), I find I function best and get the best muscle building results with the extra rest such a split affords me.



the way i train cant do it 7 days a wek body would never recover
tak arms for insnce they get pounded when you hit back chest and shoulders, hitting them an additional 2 exclusive times a week... when would they rest and recover?
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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2012, 02:03:52 PM »
the way i train cant do it 7 days a wek body would never recover
tak arms for insnce they get pounded when you hit back chest and shoulders, hitting them an additional 2 exclusive times a week... when would they rest and recover?

I train every other day, so it's only up to four times a week.

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2012, 02:07:36 PM »
Wow, you just revealed the secret, "Bill Loguidice"................ ::)

Just answering the question and making no claims. Goodness knows what would work for someone else... Thanks for the misguided snark, though, it's appreciated.

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2012, 02:10:39 PM »
"inner/outer thighs"

That's "code" for the abduction/adduction machine. Laugh all you want, but I train everything. My wife is my training partner, so you can laugh at that too.

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2012, 02:20:25 PM »
check your pm box 8)

oh, roundeness on delts, some test will do the job for most.

i think gh is overrated and overpriced severly and over bunked, esp for non competitors.

Checked, thx  8)

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2012, 02:21:45 PM »
I train every other day, so it's only up to four times a week.
ok so all your bodyparts dont get hit in  week i see
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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2012, 02:26:10 PM »
So what you're saying is, you haven't trained calves and now because the rest of you has grown, they stick out even more.  ;D

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2012, 02:30:20 PM »
So what you're saying is, you haven't trained calves and now because the rest of you has grown, they stick out even more.  ;D

Who doesn't train calves?

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2012, 02:33:38 PM »
Who doesn't train calves?

Only when I'm bored

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2012, 02:41:42 PM »
Do you find it more beneficial to train a lagging body part once or twic a week?
I know they say DOMS dont mean muscle growth.... but I disagree even if it doesnt mean growth directly for me it means the muscle tissue has been taken out of its comfort zone and broken down. Do you guys get DOMS when a muscle is hit 2 times a week?
Depends on how much juice you are on, increasing the frequency to training a bodypart is pointless if you are a natural. With enough hormones you can train a bodypart every 2-3 days and bring it up.

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2012, 04:40:37 PM »
Depends on how much juice you are on, increasing the frequency to training a bodypart is pointless if you are a natural. With enough hormones you can train a bodypart every 2-3 days and bring it up.
i dont take any form of drugs.. im natural.. ive trained bodyparts twice a week before when i do, no Doms though
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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2012, 04:44:17 PM »
More volume on the lagging part.
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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2012, 05:12:34 PM »
Do you find it more beneficial to train a lagging body part once or twic a week?
I know they say DOMS dont mean muscle growth.... but I disagree even if it doesnt mean growth directly for me it means the muscle tissue has been taken out of its comfort zone and broken down. Do you guys get DOMS when a muscle is hit 2 times a week?

I would say to switch up your training split that way your lagging body parts come first at the beginning of the week.

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Re: Lagging body part (question for serious trainers)
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2012, 07:29:52 PM »
i dont take any form of drugs.. im natural.. ive trained bodyparts twice a week before when i do, no Doms though
In your case it`s hard to tell, maybe trial and error would be the only way to find out what works best for you