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Im confused you bash the "left" all the time in here but you know you are the biggest "leftie" on this board? How is that? Stockholm syndrome?

STFU.  You say you like Ron Paul yet disagree with everything he stands for. 

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STFU.  You never said shit when Obama backed SEIU and ACORN were showing up at AIG execs houses, beating up people etc. 

What the hell happened to you bro?

???  Walker's actions are independent of obama's.

A serial killer can't say "look, jurors, yall didn't convict ted bundy, so how can you convict me..."

weak ass shit argument bro.

this is about walker - and if he even CONSIDERED sending troublemakers into a peaceful crowd of 70,000 - knowing damn well the risks - then he is a shitstain.  Sure, obama, acorn, seui, they're all shitstains too.  But if walker considered it - and in his words, he certainly did - it's shitstain city.  Period.   The governor of a state considered inciting a peaceful crowd to meet his political goals.  Sad.

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???  Walker's actions are independent of obama's.

A serial killer can't say "look, jurors, yall didn't convict ted bundy, so how can you convict me..."

weak ass shit argument bro.

this is about walker - and if he even CONSIDERED sending troublemakers into a peaceful crowd of 70,000 - knowing damn well the risks - then he is a shitstain.  Sure, obama, acorn, seui, they're all shitstains too.  But if walker considered it - and in his words, he certainly did - it's shitstain city.  Period.   The governor of a state considered inciting a peaceful crowd to meet his political goals.  Sad.

Oh STFU you lying sack of shit. 

I can't believe how far you have fallen.   You are a joke for the last year.   

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 Sure, obama, acorn, seui, they're all shitstains  

That's funny, I don't remember any post started by you on this subject: "Sure, obama, acorn, seui, they're all shitstains "...

Maybe I just missed them.... ::)

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3333 in ballistic meltdown mode again today... lol..

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3333 in ballistic meltdown mode again today... lol..

Like I said - I am laughing loudly and very happy about the complete wrecking the entire left wing and obama cultists are taking lately. 

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Will you be voting for her in the next election?

Fortunately, I'm far removed from that district!
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Oh STFU you lying sack of shit.  

I can't believe how far you have fallen.   You are a joke for the last year.    

personal attack on me aside - what about the point of my post - should a gov consider inciting a crowd of peaceful people - in order to reach his political goals?  Are you okay with a dem governor sending agents into a crowd of 80k peaceful tea partiers to incite things?

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personal attack on me aside - what about the point of my post - should a gov consider inciting a crowd of peaceful people - in order to reach his political goals?  Are you okay with a dem governor sending agents into a crowd of 80k peaceful tea partiers to incite things?


its politics and this shit happens all the time.  The same way demos sent operatives to town halls and mccain events etc.

Just face it and man up - your leftist icons and slavish loyalty to these liberal locusts has rendered you an idiot for all to see. 


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STFU.  You say you like Ron Paul yet disagree with everything he stands for. 
Damn, you're so tough.

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STFU.  You say you like Ron Paul yet disagree with everything he stands for. 

Im closer to RP than you will ever be. You are a Neocon far away from anything RP stands for.

Whats ironic is that you are also job-less making your claims even more ridicilous

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Spending Gap? Media Ignores $21 Million Unions Spent in WI
 Big Journalism ^ | 6/06/2012 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:51:23 AM by iowamark

The spin from the left on the morning after their disastrous Wisconsin recall election failure is that Governor Scott Walker (R-WI), who walked away with the election, did so because he spent oodles of money.

Politico’s takeaway: “Money shouts.” “Walker wins one for the plutocrats,” trumpeted Joan Walsh of Salon.com. “Outspent 7-1, Democrats couldn’t beat Scott Walker with a strong ground game.” Media Matters’ favorite Washington Post columnist, Greg Sargent, cited the Citizens United decision allowing corporate political spending no less than five times in his recap of the election – despite the fact that not one dollar spent in Wisconsin would have been illegal before Citizens United. The Post’s Chris Cillizza said, “Being outspent 10-1 (or worse) is never a recipe for success in a race. Democrats cried foul over Walker’s exploitation of a loophole that allowed him to collect unlimited contributions prior to the official announcement of the recall in late March.” Daily Kos said that with Walker’s spending edge, “It shouldn’t even be close.”

This is false...

On the surface, then, it appears that Walker had a tremendous cash advantage.

Not so fast. As it turns out, labor unions spent an additional $21 million on the recall election. When it came to state senate recall elections back in September 2011, Democrats outspent Republicans $23.4 million to $20.5 million...

In terms of strict numbers, Walker spent some $30 million; Barrett and the unions spent $25 million. That’s not a 7-to-1 differential. And when you add in unions’ inherent advantage in ground game, you’re talking about a better-than-even split for Barrett.

Scott Walker won last night because he is a good governor...


(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

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"Not so fast. As it turns out, labor unions spent an additional $21 million on the recall election. When it came to state senate recall elections back in September 2011, Democrats outspent Republicans $23.4 million to $20.5 million..."

All Barrett had to do was raise $3 million more and he would have guaranteed himself victory?  

It's a well known and irrefutable fact that Barrett would have won if he raised the same amount of money as Walker, so it's gotta be tough to know that you were 90% of the way to undeniable victory on election night only to end up losing by nearly double digits.


Damn...he was soooo close.  
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"Not so fast. As it turns out, labor unions spent an additional $21 million on the recall election. When it came to state senate recall elections back in September 2011, Democrats outspent Republicans $23.4 million to $20.5 million..."



Also, the $ gap in campaign funds is grossly misleading.  No one is reporting the tens of millions spent by the the other side for the recall effort (ie; out of state workers forging getting petitions signed, the Falk campaign, etc.




Thank you!


http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/06/07/no-dems-were-not-outspent-7-to-1-in-wisconsin/

You’ll find less shouty, but still misleading, versions of this all over the media, e.g., Reuters, NPR, and the WaPo’s Greg Sargent (who is shockingly more accurate at the margin on this one). They are all following the lead of Obama campaign flack Jim Messina, who is trying to raise money off the claim that conservative groups “were willing to spend nearly EIGHT times as much money as the Democratic candidate and his allies raised.”

These claims, depending on the phraseology, range from misleading to flatly false, even based on the sources from which the claims are made.

The spending story stems from a release by the liberal Center for Public Integrity, which took based its analysis on data from the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign (ostensibly nonpartisan, but a past recipient of Soros money and the sort of group whose director told CPI the spending was “outrageous and wrong”). However, according to that data, when you combine the spending of the candidates and their supporting groups, the gap shrinks to 2-to-1.

Moreover, it is a fair bet those figures do not include all of the money spent by left-leaning groups on all candidates in the recall.

Indeed, it should be underscored that the left/media here is focused entirely on spending in the gubernatorial recall, when this election was just one of many the left attempted to turn into referenda on Gov. Walker’s public-sector collective bargaining reforms. If once considers the total amounts spent during the Days of Cheesehead Rage on state senate recall elections, Supreme Court elections and so on in 2011-12, the gap shrinks to roughly 1.5-to-1.

Lastly, these figures only account for sums legally required to be publicly reported (and assumes those sums are properly quantified). Rutgers University economist Leo Troy has estimated that actual union political spending is likely several times higher than generally reported. There is no reason to think otherwise in this case.

In short, it is not clear the left was outspent in its attempts to reverse Gov. Walker’s reforms. And the widely-repeated claim that the left was outspent by more than 7-to-1 in the most recent recall election is clearly false.

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The best part is that it is 20 million or so right down the toilet they don't have now for November and they got literally nothing for it.   


Thank you!


http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/06/07/no-dems-were-not-outspent-7-to-1-in-wisconsin/

You’ll find less shouty, but still misleading, versions of this all over the media, e.g., Reuters, NPR, and the WaPo’s Greg Sargent (who is shockingly more accurate at the margin on this one). They are all following the lead of Obama campaign flack Jim Messina, who is trying to raise money off the claim that conservative groups “were willing to spend nearly EIGHT times as much money as the Democratic candidate and his allies raised.”

These claims, depending on the phraseology, range from misleading to flatly false, even based on the sources from which the claims are made.

The spending story stems from a release by the liberal Center for Public Integrity, which took based its analysis on data from the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign (ostensibly nonpartisan, but a past recipient of Soros money and the sort of group whose director told CPI the spending was “outrageous and wrong”). However, according to that data, when you combine the spending of the candidates and their supporting groups, the gap shrinks to 2-to-1.

Moreover, it is a fair bet those figures do not include all of the money spent by left-leaning groups on all candidates in the recall.

Indeed, it should be underscored that the left/media here is focused entirely on spending in the gubernatorial recall, when this election was just one of many the left attempted to turn into referenda on Gov. Walker’s public-sector collective bargaining reforms. If once considers the total amounts spent during the Days of Cheesehead Rage on state senate recall elections, Supreme Court elections and so on in 2011-12, the gap shrinks to roughly 1.5-to-1.

Lastly, these figures only account for sums legally required to be publicly reported (and assumes those sums are properly quantified). Rutgers University economist Leo Troy has estimated that actual union political spending is likely several times higher than generally reported. There is no reason to think otherwise in this case.

In short, it is not clear the left was outspent in its attempts to reverse Gov. Walker’s reforms. And the widely-repeated claim that the left was outspent by more than 7-to-1 in the most recent recall election is clearly false.



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The best part is that it is 20 million or so right down the toilet they don't have now for November and they got literally nothing for it.   



Well, there is a senate seat in District 21. If you checked out DU or HP, the lefties there are chest-bumping each other about that.....even though that race is likely headed for a recount and, if it holds, the Dems will control the Wisconsin Senate.

Did I mention that the Senate is closed for the rest of the year and there's a regular election this November, with most of the libs' seatson the line?

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Sad that these people were willing to put into office a milk-toast, stand for nothing candidate who has been pushing endlessly a $100 million dollar trolly that goes barely 2 miles and would hardly get used.  ::)

AND another $55 million to relocate utilities for the trolley.   ::)
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Spending Gap? Media Ignores $21 Million Unions Spent in WI
 Big Journalism ^ | 6/06/2012 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:51:23 AM by iowamark

The spin from the left on the morning after their disastrous Wisconsin recall election failure is that Governor Scott Walker (R-WI), who walked away with the election, did so because he spent oodles of money.

Politico’s takeaway: “Money shouts.” “Walker wins one for the plutocrats,” trumpeted Joan Walsh of Salon.com. “Outspent 7-1, Democrats couldn’t beat Scott Walker with a strong ground game.” Media Matters’ favorite Washington Post columnist, Greg Sargent, cited the Citizens United decision allowing corporate political spending no less than five times in his recap of the election – despite the fact that not one dollar spent in Wisconsin would have been illegal before Citizens United. The Post’s Chris Cillizza said, “Being outspent 10-1 (or worse) is never a recipe for success in a race. Democrats cried foul over Walker’s exploitation of a loophole that allowed him to collect unlimited contributions prior to the official announcement of the recall in late March.” Daily Kos said that with Walker’s spending edge, “It shouldn’t even be close.”

This is false...

On the surface, then, it appears that Walker had a tremendous cash advantage.

Not so fast. As it turns out, labor unions spent an additional $21 million on the recall election. When it came to state senate recall elections back in September 2011, Democrats outspent Republicans $23.4 million to $20.5 million...

In terms of strict numbers, Walker spent some $30 million; Barrett and the unions spent $25 million. That’s not a 7-to-1 differential. And when you add in unions’ inherent advantage in ground game, you’re talking about a better-than-even split for Barrett.

Scott Walker won last night because he is a good governor...


(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


As I asked the delusional folks on HP, there was a reported $63 million spent there. Walker used $34 million; where was the other $29 million?

It's simple math. The lefties are looking for anything to excuse the fact they got beat down and beat up Tuesday.

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Sad that these people were willing to put into office a milk-toast, stand for nothing candidate who has been pushing endlessly a $100 million dollar trolly that goes barely 2 miles and would hardly get used.  ::)

AND another $55 million to relocate utilities for the trolley.   ::)


Not to mention the fact that he mis-reported to the fed crime stats in Milwaukee making it appear that crime rates have been reduced under his reign.  As many as 1300 VIOLENT crimes were purposely categorized as non-violent.

Not only is he fiscally irresponsible, he's also deceitful.
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I know this, that Democrats make for very bad liars. They always get caught and when they do, they don't stand their ground or they try to change the subject.


In terms of strict numbers, Walker spent some $30 million; Barrett and the unions spent $25 million. That’s not a 7-to-1 differential. And when you add in unions’ inherent advantage in ground game, you’re talking about a better-than-even split for Barrett.


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I know this, that Democrats make for very bad liars. They always get caught and when they do, they don't stand their ground or they try to change the subject.


In terms of strict numbers, Walker spent some $30 million; Barrett and the unions spent $25 million. That’s not a 7-to-1 differential. And when you add in unions’ inherent advantage in ground game, you’re talking about a better-than-even split for Barrett.


Great analysis.

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