Fantastic religious quote.

[BigCyp]

"For God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:16 - NKJV Bible)

That religious quote saved my sorry soul from hell.

[Coach is Back!]

Meh...we could refute this shit all day long. You call my postings propaganda I call yours propaganda, blah blah. It would be never ending. But.....I don't have all day long.

[Butterbean]

Did johnnynoname show up in this thread yet?

[Radical Plato]

 "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but...will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

Marcus Aurelius (Roman Emperor)

Wise words from a man who lived 2,000 years ago.  He echoes my sentiments exactly.

It reminds me of the words of Baltasar Gracian (January 8, 1601 – December 6, 1658) who was a Spanish Jesuit and baroque prose writer who wrote "The Art of Worldly Wisdom" - Here are his words
"In a word, be a saint - that says everything.  Virtue is a chain of all perfections, the centre of all happiness.  She makes you prudent, discreet, shrewd, sensible, wise, brave, cautious, honest, happy, praiseworthy, true.... A Universal Hero.  Three things make one blessed, saintliness, wisdom and prudence.  Virtue is the son of the lesser world, and it's hemisphere is a good conscience.  It is so lovely that it wins Gods Grace and that of others.  There is nothing as lovable as virtue, nor as hateful as vice.  Virtue alone is for real, all else is sham.  Talent and Greatness depend on virtue, not on fortune.  Only virtue is sufficient unto herself .  She makes us love the living and remember the dead"

[Radical Plato]

"For God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:16 - NKJV Bible)

That religious quote saved my sorry soul from hell.

but you aren't dead yet!

[BigCyp]

but you aren't dead yet!

One train is heading toward a station that is burning at 200 degrees, 5 miles away (you can't see it yet), do you get off at the next station and switch trains to go the other way, or stay on to find out what fire tastes like?

Same way you can't wait until your dead to repent and live right.

[avxo]

Meh... we could refute this shit all day long.

I don't think refute means what you think it means.

You call my postings propaganda I call yours propaganda, blah blah.

Actually, I don't know about what others call your posts, but I call some of them baseless and unsubstantiated.

I don't have all day long.

Surely a man as busy as you, what with running a business and whatnot, would have at least one executive assistant to handle the details. So if you wanted, you could have all day!

[Coach is Back!]

Surely a man as busy as you, what with running a business and whatnot, would have at least one executive assistant to handle the details. So if you wanted, you could have all day!

I do, but it gives me the time to do what I'm supposed to do.......research my training, program design and train people.

[avxo]

I do, but it gives me the time to do what I'm supposed to do.......research my traiing and train people.

Cool. Carry on.

[syntaxmachine]

Meh...we could refute this shit all day long. You call my postings propaganda I call yours propaganda, blah blah. It would be never ending. But.....I don't have all day long.

Hm, the refutations seems to be a tad bit one-sided. I didn't just call the linked article propaganda, I pointed out its logical incoherence. Since it's your particular beliefs being refuted, I think that you would respond properly if you could. You don't, therefore you can't.

Of course, the other possibility is that you are a well-spring of knowledge that could easily slap me down with some logic and the appropriate facts, but choose not to post because you are just too busy. But, given the sum of posts you have decided to make, everyone here knows how likely this alternative scenario is.

P.S. The stuff I typed up on the article took maybe ten minutes, not quite "all day."

[Coach is Back!]

Hm, the refutations seems to be a tad bit one-sided. I didn't just call the linked article propaganda, I pointed out its logical incoherence. Since it's your particular beliefs being refuted, I think that you would respond properly if you could. You don't, therefore you can't.

Of course, the other possibility is that you are a well-spring of knowledge that could easily slap me down with some logic and the appropriate facts, but choose not to post because you are just too busy. But, given the sum of posts you have decided to make, everyone here knows how likely this alternative scenario is.

P.S. The stuff I typed up on the article took maybe ten minutes, not quite "all day."

Actually not quite. You were still on for at least an hour and a half in this thread writing your post. My guess is that while you were writing that post you were also researching what to say hence the cut and paste of the numbers. It's okay, we all do it. Wondering why you're on here trying to come off as some Rhodes scholar as if to prove some kind of point? Very articulate, much better than I.

BTW, this post took all of a minute to wright. Gotta go!

[avxo]

BTW, this post took all of a minute to wright. Gotta go!

And it took about the same amount of time to reed.

[Coach is Back!]

And it took about the same amount of time to reed.

Whatever sister, I found typo's in his posts as well, but since it doesn't matter......

[avxo]

Whatever sister, I found typo's in his posts as well, but since it doesn't matter......

Sounds like someone is going through menopause...

[BigCyp]

I hope you're joking, because (to keep the analogy going) there is no evidence at all that there's a fire at the next station, just a simple stop and that's it.

One Holy Book that has been preached and believe by millions over the last 2000 years says there is a fire, but don't worry 'in your opinion - you hope that the next station is safe'

Good luck.

[Radical Plato]

One Holy Book that has been preached and believe by millions over the last 2000 years says there is a fire, but don't worry 'in your opinion - you hope that the next station is safe'

Good luck.

Personally, Hell could not be worse than the hell most people find their lives to be under a corrupt elitist violent institution called Western Democracy - it's hard to be scared of hell when you are already there!

[garebear]

Personally, Hell could not be worse than the hell most people find their lives to be under a corrupt elitist violent institution called Western Democracy - it's hard to be scared of hell when you are already there!

Sounds like you're in a hell of your own making.

[dr.chimps]

'Hell is other people.'

[Radical Plato]

Sounds like you're in a hell of your own making.

I wasn't just talking about my life (talking about humanity in general), but also the lives of the Millions of people unfairly punished, tortured or killed because of a evil small concentration of power long ago decided they wanted to control the lives of the rest of the world.  If you think this world isn't hell, you just haven't investigated reality enough or you are quite young or you are still stuck with the internalised propaganda you were raised with.  The problem is, the elitist clever bastards have enslaved humanity and convinced the peasants they are free.  Most people are so UNAWARE - they call HELL a Paradise because they were told that it is, over and over again until they internalised it.  Perfect system, enslave humans and convince them they are FREE, that way they will never ask to be FREED! because they don't realise they are enslaved.  From my experience, HELL is created by external Powerful Forces, (mostly Governments) taking advantage of those with no Power!  The beauty of the system is you take the child from the parent at a very young age, indoctrinate him and call it education, force him over and over to obey authority so that when he is an adult he will not question, not seek, not imagine what is happening in the world and just selfishly seek out his own narcisstic ends!  Even if my life was Perfect, I would still call this Planet Hell, as I have heard to many Witness Accounts to confirm it!

[Radical Plato]

if heaven is a place where religious nutcases gather, im not sure i wanna go there

i think allah god has couple dozen virgins to offer at his place, sounds promising.

what the jews get?

christianity not sure either.

maybe its all the same god anway, there can only be one id guess

In heaven, all the interesting people are missing.
Friedrich Nietzsche

[Radical Plato]

friedrich neitzsche 1890 or so "god is dead"

god 2012 or so "freidrich nietzsche is dead"

 

At least freidrich nietzsche made an appearance, which is more than you can say for "GOD"

[OTHstrong]

Personally, Hell could not be worse than the hell most people find their lives to be under a corrupt elitist violent institution called Western Democracy - it's hard to be scared of hell when you are already there!

Are you completely out of your fucken mind?..... the worst parts of western democracy are heaven in comparison to all third world coutries, nearly 1 in 4 people in Africa have aids, people are still getting tortured, burnt alive, eyes poked out, children being molested and sacrificed, people getting their limbs ripped off every fucken day all over the place, millions die of starvation yearly, and the worst fate you can come up with is a standard life in western society, LMFAO.

[Radical Plato]

Are you completely out of your fucken mind?..... the worst parts of western democracy are heaven in comparison to all third world coutries, nearly 1 in 4 people in Africa have aids, people are still getting tortured, burnt alive, eyes poked out, children being molested and sacrificed, people getting their limbs ripped off every fucken day all over the place, millions die of starvation yearly, and the worst fate you can come up with is a standard life in western society, LMFAO.

And who do you think is causing that misery - Western Democracy's - The western world enjoys there fat cat lifestyles while the rest of the world suffers - only a narcisstic fool would call the murder, rape and exploitation of the third world so that he can get fat, lazy and apathetic while watching a documentary about it a "HEAVEN".  I was referring to humanity in general - Humanity itself is in a HELL that is the making of a small concentration of sick sadistic power mongers - So enjoy getting stoned on your western Democratic lifestyle and continue to feel grateful that it is the third world being destroyed because Americans believe they have the right to rape, murder and pillage  - you should feel grateful that you have found a way to way to enjoy living in a Fascist Corrupt Democracy where the Elites fuck everyone else up the arse!  For those of us who are informed and have moved beyond the ignorance of Bliss - we have discovered that the Planet Earth is a living hell for a large percentage of its inhabitants!  Funny how Americans and other Loveless Western Democracies have so much misery, unhappiness, disease, anxiety, suicides, violence, murder and war - if that is what you think HEAVEN is - you are welcome to it!

[gracie bjj]

the more screwed up shit you see in this world the harder it is to beleive there is a god out there, i used to be a beleiver until one year ago. now im a follower of lucifer and the demons of hell

[avxo]

One Holy Book that has been preached and believe by millions over the last 2000 years says there is a fire, but don't worry 'in your opinion - you hope that the next station is safe'

Good luck.

It's debatable if the book is holy - let's not jump ahead of ourselves.

As for whether it's been preached for the last 2000 years and is believed by millions, even if it has and even if millions - or even billions - believe it, the question boils down to: so what? This isn't a popularity contest.

And I don't worry - the collected writings of ancient superstitious sheepherders on the meaning of life are of no concern to me. What of the station being on fire? I don't worry about that either because there is no "next station". Death is the end of the line in the finite journey of life - a journey that begins and then ends. What's "after" the end of the journey is no different than what was "before" the beginning of it.