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Fifty-six percent of Americans think Barack Obama will win the 2012 presidential election, compared with 36% who think Mitt Romney will win. Democrats are more likely to believe that Obama will win than Republicans are to believe Romney will. Independents are nearly twice as likely to think that Obama, rather than Romney, will prevail.

 





Including the 2008 election, Americans' predictions of the four prior presidential elections were also generally accurate.

In three separate measurements in 2004, Americans thought Bush would be the winner in two and were split in their predictions in the other, conducted immediately after the Democratic convention. In the final prediction, from mid-October, 56% thought Bush would win and 36% thought Kerry would.

The accuracy of the 2000 election prediction is harder to evaluate, given that Al Gore won the popular vote and George W. Bush the electoral vote. In four out of five measurements that year, Americans thought Bush would win, though in the final measurement, taken in mid-September, Americans gave Gore the edge.

In an August 1996 poll, Americans overwhelmingly believed incumbent Bill Clinton (69%) would defeat Bob Dole (24%).



http://www.gallup.com/poll/154670/Americans-See-Obama-Solid-Favorite-Win-Election.aspx
 


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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2012, 01:57:17 PM »
nonsense.   175% of Americans know he is a commie eskimo traitor and will lose in a landslide.


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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2012, 04:37:17 PM »
They have absolute proof  ;D

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 05:47:18 PM »
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Townhall.com ^ | May 24, 2012 | Kyle Olsen
Posted on May 24, 2012 10:33:20 AM EDT by Kaslin

 Over the past year, a lot of people have been talking about “the 1%” versus “the 99%.” But if you’re concerned about one class exploiting another for economic gain, that’s the wrong way to look at the problem.

See an EAGnews.org exclusive animation explaining the situation here.

The protesters are right about one thing: there are gross class inequities in America.

There is one class that works more hours per day, more days per year, for more years of their lives. They have less job security, they pay more for health coverage, and their retirements are not guaranteed. Their incomes are determined by their performance, limited by economic reality, and tied to the fortunes of their employers. This is the private-sector producer class.

Part of what private-sector workers produce is taken for the benefit of another class, the government class.

The government class plays by a different set of rules, dictated by unions and implemented by the politicians they help elect. For government union members, income is not determined by job performance, but by how many years they’ve managed to stick around. They’ll work fewer hours, get more vacation time, and make more money than their producer class colleagues.

They’ll get better health coverage, and it’ll cost them less. The government class will retire at an earlier age and with a pension providing a guaranteed income, something fewer than 1 in 10 producer-class workers enjoy.

In Wisconsin, the government class makes up 14% of the population, exploiting the other 86%, the producer class.

The average Wisconsin state employee makes about $70,000 annually in salary and benefits, while the private-sector workers whose taxes pay for it earn about $15,000-a-year less. Talk about income disparity!

The government class is powerful because government employees are members of unions that contribute heavily to political campaigns. And in Wisconsin, no single group funnels more money into politics than teachers unions.

As the producer class struggled with a sluggish economy, Milwaukee public school teachers were rewarded for their political support by getting a 5% pay increase for the current school year.

Compared to the producer class, Milwaukee’s teachers are getting a pretty sweet deal. When school is in session, teachers work almost 4 hours less each week than the standard private sector employee does. And instead of getting the usual two weeks off each year, Milwaukee teachers enjoy nearly 14 weeks vacation. All told, the typical producer-class employee works well over 600 hours a year more than the typical government school employee.

You would think with this workload, total compensation for government teachers would be a lot less than for private-sector workers. But when you add salary, retirement and health benefits, a first-year teacher’s total compensation is almost $56 per contracted hour worked. For a fifth-year teacher, it’s over $60 an hour. A tenth year teacher, more than $66 an hour. And teachers can retire sooner, too, at age 57.

If that sounds generous to you, you’re not alone. Producer-class workers earn less than $735 a week. For a typical 40-hour week, that works out to just over $18 an hour.

Of course, there’s a cost to all this generosity. If you’re in the producer class, you’re working harder than ever to pay for it all. And yet, mobs of government workers have besieged the capital for months, complaining that you’re not working hard enough, that you need to pay even more.

Government employees make up a small sliver of Wisconsin’s workforce, just 14%, and it’s time they stopped pushing the other 86% of us around.

Next time you see government employees demanding that you sacrifice even more for them, remind them that a public servant is supposed to serve the public, not turn the public into their servants.

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 06:05:12 PM »
Fifty-six percent of Americans think Barack Obama will win the 2012 presidential election, compared with 36% who think Mitt Romney will win. Democrats are more likely to believe that Obama will win than Republicans are to believe Romney will. Independents are nearly twice as likely to think that Obama, rather than Romney, will prevail.

 





Including the 2008 election, Americans' predictions of the four prior presidential elections were also generally accurate.

In three separate measurements in 2004, Americans thought Bush would be the winner in two and were split in their predictions in the other, conducted immediately after the Democratic convention. In the final prediction, from mid-October, 56% thought Bush would win and 36% thought Kerry would.

The accuracy of the 2000 election prediction is harder to evaluate, given that Al Gore won the popular vote and George W. Bush the electoral vote. In four out of five measurements that year, Americans thought Bush would win, though in the final measurement, taken in mid-September, Americans gave Gore the edge.

In an August 1996 poll, Americans overwhelmingly believed incumbent Bill Clinton (69%) would defeat Bob Dole (24%).



http://www.gallup.com/poll/154670/Americans-See-Obama-Solid-Favorite-Win-Election.aspx
 



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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2012, 06:08:48 PM »



LOL.     Yeah, Barack kardashian is polling at 45 vs Romney today in Gallup. 

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 06:11:40 PM »

LOL.     Yeah, Barack kardashian is polling at 45 vs Romney today in Gallup. 

 :D :D :D here's a guy that has no life what so ever calling someone else names  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 06:13:44 PM »
:D :D :D here's a guy that has no life what so ever calling someone else names  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


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Yeah, the communist ghetto incompetent messiah thinks the private sector is doing fine.   LOL! 

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2012, 06:20:11 PM »
well when thoughts and good intentions are what matters I guess the liberal agenda will work.

In reality we look at how the votes fall, not what ppl "feel" will happen.

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2012, 06:42:42 PM »
Including the 2008 election, Americans' predictions of the four prior presidential elections were also generally accurate.



Wow.   Pretty bad for Romney there.  Public perception matters.

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2012, 06:43:48 PM »
Including the 2008 election, Americans' predictions of the four prior presidential elections were also generally accurate.



Wow.   Pretty bad for Romney there.  Public perception matters.


Whatever.   Talk to me in novemeber oh Obama cum sock. 

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2012, 06:56:45 PM »

Whatever.   Talk to me in novemeber oh Obama cum sock. 

what factors do you believe will influence voting AGAINST perception? 

why will 2012 go against the grain of the past 20 years?

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2012, 07:04:24 PM »
what factors do you believe will influence voting AGAINST perception? 

why will 2012 go against the grain of the past 20 years?

Economy anyone?    Turnout anyone?    Obama is a proven incompetent disaster anyone?    Obama polling at terrible levels for incumbent anyone?   Obama record of treason anyone? 

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2012, 09:00:38 PM »
Economy anyone?    Turnout anyone?    Obama is a proven incompetent disaster anyone?    Obama polling at terrible levels for incumbent anyone?   Obama record of treason anyone? 

in that case, what explains the HORRIBLE confidence for Romney?   People dislike obama, but have no confidence in his opponent.  Is it due to the fact he underperformed so badly against santorum, himself a B-list candidate?  Or the fact the repub base mocked romney for 6 years now pretends to like him?

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2012, 09:30:40 PM »
56% of Americans are about to be very surprised.
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2012, 10:58:33 PM »
Pretty meaningless poll.

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2012, 06:13:58 AM »
Pretty meaningless poll.

yep.  the fact it was accurate the last 4 elections shouldn't bother anyone.

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2012, 06:16:18 AM »
yep.  the fact it was accurate the last 4 elections shouldn't bother anyone.

Other than 2000 - gmafb.   

The economy was good in 2004. 

in 2012 - its a fucking wreck.

240 - you really have morphed into something you probably would have been completely ashamed of a few years ago - ALL TO WORSHIP AT THE ALTAR OF YOUR MESSIANIC CULT LEADER. 



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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2012, 06:20:46 AM »
Other than 2000 - gmafb.   

The economy was good in 2004. 

in 2012 - its a fucking wreck.

240 - you really have morphed into something you probably would have been completely ashamed of a few years ago - ALL TO WORSHIP AT THE ALTAR OF YOUR MESSIANIC CULT LEADER. 




Because I'm asking you to justify why public voting will completely go against public opinion for the first time in 20 years?

I'm asking you to tell me why reality will defy precedent, and all you can do is call me names.

I dont even argue anymore, because everyone here sees it - when you have a good counter-point to make, you deliver it.  When you are fucking owned up the ass on an arguemtn, you insult me instead of refuting the point.

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2012, 06:23:03 AM »
Because I'm asking you to justify why public voting will completely go against public opinion for the first time in 20 years?

I'm asking you to tell me why reality will defy precedent, and all you can do is call me names.

I dont even argue anymore, because everyone here sees it - when you have a good counter-point to make, you deliver it.  When you are fucking owned up the ass on an arguemtn, you insult me instead of refuting the point.

Let me help you

Repub = Good
Dem = bad

Monkey logic

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2012, 06:23:20 AM »
Because I'm asking you to justify why public voting will completely go against public opinion for the first time in 20 years?

I'm asking you to tell me why reality will defy precedent, and all you can do is call me names.

I dont even argue anymore, because everyone here sees it - when you have a good counter-point to make, you deliver it.  When you are fucking owned up the ass on an arguemtn, you insult me instead of refuting the point.

its hard arguing with someone who blatantly lies like you do.  

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2012, 06:24:44 AM »
try it 33 - for just one day.

every time you respond, try only responding to the question or issue.   No insults.  No calling people human toilet paper or kneepadders or anti-american traitors.

Try just addressing the points they make - I think you'll discover that's a lot HARDER than just saying "bro, you're a kneepadder, go fuck a duck".

Try arguing the issues, it's a lot tougher.  Try defending the points or telling us why, in this case, voters will completely abandon public sentiment and vote against their current belief that obama will win.  Try it!

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2012, 06:35:31 AM »
try it 33 - for just one day.

every time you respond, try only responding to the question or issue.   No insults.  No calling people human toilet paper or kneepadders or anti-american traitors.

Try just addressing the points they make - I think you'll discover that's a lot HARDER than just saying "bro, you're a kneepadder, go fuck a duck".

Try arguing the issues, it's a lot tougher.  Try defending the points or telling us why, in this case, voters will completely abandon public sentiment and vote against their current belief that obama will win.  Try it!
lol and then you try addressing the point of the thread and not deflecting...

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2012, 06:44:12 AM »
lol and then you try addressing the point of the thread and not deflecting...

the point of this thread is that the last 4 elections, public belief was reflected in voting stations.

I see this being the case once again.  I agree with OP.

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Re: Gallup: Americans See Obama as Solid Favorite to Win Election
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2012, 06:45:37 AM »
the point of this thread is that the last 4 elections, public belief was reflected in voting stations.

I see this being the case once again.  I agree with OP.
we know you do, we also know that you will do just about anything including voting accordingly to make this happen.