Best way a natural bodybuilder can cut up?

[coltrane]

What are your thoughts for a natty to cut, while retaining as much muscle as possible?   Keto?  High carb, zero fat?

[ChevChelios]

chopping an arm off,it's easy,fast,and natural too 

[bigmc]

crack

[Boost]

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[mass243]

Kitkat chunky a'la Fatpanda -procedure is highly recommended.

[Hulkotron]

A spoonful of Draino usually does the trick.

[mass243]

I heard consuming less calories than you burn would work..... dunno 'bout that though 

[ritch]

carb cycling. Train your weak body parts on the high carb days.

[ritch]

i never understood this logic, because...dont the carbs need some time to get stored?

i usualy feel more powerfull after a day with carbs, not on the same day

I feel it on both. Plus you stay looking pretty full through most of the low carb phase and your brain stays sharp, well sharper than day after day of real low carb dieting (under 100 grams)

[Grape Ape]

i never understood this logic, because...dont the carbs need some time to get stored?

i usualy feel more powerfull after a day with carbs, not on the same day

I've been confused by this too.   I tried it, but the compound lifts felt like crap.  If there's a timing around it, I'd like to hear it.

[Dr Dutch]

High protein, low everything else, cardio, heavy weight training, hunger.

We all know the above by it's most common name: HELL...

[coltrane]

High protein, low everything else, cardio, heavy weight training, hunger.

We all know the above by it's most common name: HELL...  and constipation.

fixed.   

[basil]

bath salts diet.  feed your gym buddy a few hoots of bath salts, sit back, hold on tight.

[the trainer]

With a whip about 50 lashes all over the body.

[supernick]

carb cycle, low days no less than 50. med days 100 to 150, and high days 200-300. keep your fats high... you need the testosterone boost. and high protien

[ritch]

carb cycle, low days no less than 50. med days 100 to 150, and high days 200-300. keep your fats high... you need the testosterone boost. and high protien

Those are some good numbers to go by. If you have a fast metabolism, just cut the carbs from all your meals other than pre/post/second post. Protein and fats. This is my staple, the best of both worlds.

[No Patience]

Weekly caloric deficit of 2000-4000 calories(one day being above maintenance), but the weeks total must be a deficit obviously

you don't need more than 100-150g protein a day, but i would recommend eating 2-3 large portions rather than small meals, you will get more out of a 50g at one sitting than 25g at two sittings because the amino reaction to ps

keep fats high enough to keep hormones regular

fill in the rest with as many carbs as you can....on the high calorie day eat mostly high starchy carbs besides your protein

forget cardio, forget small meals every 6 hours, forget magazines and mainstream horseshit

you can eat 2-3 times a day and wont lose a fucking ounce of muscle as long as your calories arent too low and you are lifting with intensity to put demand on the muscle

this is all proven through research and taken from Brad Pilon, Scott Connely, Martin Berkhan, Lyle McDonald, Layne Norton, Alan Aragon, the people you should listen to

[Ursus]

HIT maybe.

Kettlebells etc

Lotf of my friends have dieted down naturally using carb cycling. They lose weight and a little size and strength but look much bigger when they carb up!

[gracie bjj]

  i just make sure im burning more calories then i eat, i keep protien up to try to spare muscle but unless your drugged you will lose alittle muscle while leaning out, atleast i do anyway

[Radical Plato]

Starvation!

[Krankenstein]

i never understood this logic, because...dont the carbs need some time to get stored?

i usualy feel more powerfull after a day with carbs, not on the same day

Well, in a 'depleted' state it can take up to 48hrs for glycogen stores to be fully refilled.  On a cycling carb type of approach...I would tend to agree with you.  The premise of training on a high carb day just doesn't seem to add up.  For example, if Thursday is my high carb day and I train in the morning...what is the benefit of training a weaker bodypart on that day?  Same thing could be said if you can only train about mid-day.  When I did CKD my Chest/Back workouts on Monday were phenomenal.  So, with what I do now (lower carb m/t/w/th with cheat meal th night) I have a chest/bi workout on friday.  I actually feel so much better doing it that way.  I have played with training on wed night vs. thursday morning going with the premise of 'priming' certain muscle groups to take in more of the carbs than others.  There is research out there that shows a recently trained muscle will take up more of the carbs than untrained ones.