Raymondo>
I'm not in the least frustrated by your interest in anti-ageing.
yes you are, and it shows even more in your lack of education on the issue, as it's shown below (keep on reading).
Perhaps you haven't realised that the level of technologies espoused by the so-called "life extension" cults are strictly at the level of science fiction. And before you say that all modern technologies were once science fiction (I can just about see you typing this) let me remind you that many classic sci-fi technologies never arrived, for example flying cars, nuclear fusion, hard articifial intelligence, etc.
That is not true at all, tho'i t may seem so for someone who's not "up to date" with the field. There has been very very imprerssive reults from various studies (I'll name more, but just a few for a start) which've shown it is possible to control the lifespan, and most importantly - the youth-span of an organism. They were performed on various species, varying from yeasts to mice (for ex. one turned out to double the life span and health span of mice. That was not possible just 20 years or so ago, everything was more on a theoretical level). If that's not impressive than I'm sure nothing would impress such a "know all" (but irl - know nothing) like you.
If growing organs in the lab and usign them to replace the dmaged ones (the field of regenration) is not impressive enough for you, than you are way too "spoiled" by the pace of technology already. Wake up, it wasn't happening just 10years sgo, and now it's REALITY. Oh, and there ARE some flying cars, go look.
Hard artificial intelligence? How about Watson, a cimputer WHO can understand human speach and sarcasm? Isn't that impressive? Lol.. I'm sure you are "not" impressed.
You've chosen a very wrong person to argue issues like these, when you are obviously "outdated" yourself.
It's the same way with anti-ageing. Presently, there's no permanent way to reverse the effects of entropy, at best one can only slow down its progress which is strongly dependent on genetics anyway.
- It has been demonstrtaed recently that it's possible to take a stem cell of a 100year old and epigenetically "reverse" the clock to that of a 10year old. It's "just" the cell, but oh wait - it was just s acience fiction LESS than 10years ago. The speed-up of this field is quite amazing, go educate yourself, if you are interested, and you'll see I'm right.
To point at bodybuilders and claim they are "anti-ageing" at its best is the height of ignorance in my opinion. When I called you out on it, you moved the goalposts. It only works for "some" of them. LOL.
Yes of course, it's an "experiment in the making", as currently there's no other way to test that idea of "hormones used to sustain some parameters of youth". Working "for some" is a result too. What's wrong with that?
Like so many people enthralled by the recent exposure of life extension you seem to take these things for granted already- you won't say it clearly, but that's what I read between the lines. Unfortunately, the harsh truth is it's very early days for that stuff. You and I may not even be the generation that benefits, we may very well expire before anti-ageing therapy becomes commonplace, if it's even viable to being with, which is so many decades into the future anyway that reliable predictions are futile.
We already WOULD benefit if needed and enough money. Go look at the grown organs field. Predictions may be true to some extent, depending on what data is used, and how. FInd something on R.Kurzweil, fella was very accurate on many many stuff (way more that he was innacurate).
As for the accusations about stupidity, neurosis, etc, I find what cephissus said to be spot on. You are terrified to recognise these things within yourself so you always make a point to project them on someone else- and as fast as possible, too.
It's nice you took time to compile such a long (and constructive) response now, tho' it was not what you did the last time, while keeping "laughing", when it wasn't a humor really, and making ther grimaces. That's when a person is confused and it's obvious
I'm always down to some constructive argument and there won't be any "name calling" from my side if a person is reacting in a constructive manner.
Getbig ultimately is not a place to debate anti-ageing the way you insist on (i.e. with no trolling), if you want to do that there are plenty of life extension forums full of kids with stars in their eyes; I'm sure they will accomodate you appropriately.
I'm pretty sure you are NOONE to tell me or someone else what's getbig for. Let's leave it at this.
