Border Patrol union calls on Holder to resign

[James]

The union that represents Border Patrol agents in Southern Arizona and around the country called today for U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to resign.

The National Border Patrol Council cited Holder’s alleged dishonesty about Operation Fast and Furious in making the call. That ATF-led operation put guns from Arizona in the hands of Mexican organized-crime groups, and two of those guns were found at the scene west of Rio Rico where Agent Brian Terry was shot to death in December 2010.

http://azstarnet.com/news/state-and-regional/article_77337770-b97b-11e1-b735-001a4bcf887a.html

[dario73]

That will probably be the first union that the Left will disown.

[Option D]

That will probably be the first union that the Left will disown.

youre good with this union?

[Soul Crusher]

 



Your good w holder and obama?  Two accessories to murder. 

youre good with this union?

[dario73]

youre good with this union?

All public unions should be banned.

Are you ok with this union?

[whork]

All public unions should be banned.

Are you ok with this union?

You dont think (public) workers should have rights?

[dario73]

You dont think (public) workers should have rights?

They don't have the right to force the tax payers to pay exorbitant wages. They don't have the right to bankrupt communities and states. They shouldn't expect to get paid the same or receive even more during economic downturns.

They don't like it, they can try to find jobs somewhere else. I am sure there are plenty of people willing to take those jobs at a more reasonable salary.  CUT THE USELESS FAT!!!

[whork]

They don't have the right to force the tax payers to pay exorbitant wages. They don't have the right to bankrupt communities and states. They shouldn't expect to get paid the same or receive even more during economic downturns.

They don't like it, they can try to find jobs somewhere else. I am sure there are plenty of people willing to take those jobs at a more reasonable salary.  CUT THE USELESS FAT!!!

Okay

Whats your take on Wall Street and bank CEO's and employees receiving huge bonuses and benefits only made possible because the government leases them money at a low rate and then lending them back to us? Our own money that is.
But you freak out over low paid teachers and cops?

[240 is Back]

That will probably be the first union that the Left will disown.

and the first one that the repubs think is necessary

[Option D]

Your good w holder and obama?  Two accessories to murder. 

are you for real... because you know where this can go right.... i can have a fun morning with your dumb ass

[Soul Crusher]

 . Only a 95er could possibly defend obama and holder in this.  Shame on you for putting race over reality on this.  Obama and holder are covering up a murder for gods sake.

[Option D]

. Only a 95er could possibly defend obama and holder in this.  Shame on you for putting race over reality on this.  Obama and holder are covering up a murder for gods sake.

I just asked if thats where you wanna go with it... Because i could fundamentally destroy you.

So detail out, how Obama is an Asseory to murder. And boy, you better come correct because i got shit tons of ammo on this one...So think before you type... it can get ugly... fast

[dario73]

Okay

Whats your take on Wall Street and bank CEO's and employees receiving huge bonuses and benefits only made possible because the government leases them money at a low rate and then lending them back to us? Our own money that is.
But you freak out over low paid teachers and cops?

Check my post history. Have I ever defended Wall Street and bank CEO's?

I never supported the government bailing them out. I think it's disgusting that they would get bonuses when their companies fail to produce revenue year after year. I never supported government giving them anything. I wanted government to let those companies fail or file for bankruptcy and get their house in order. I believe other companies would have taken their place. They needed to allow the market run its course.

Where am I freaking out about public unions? I believe they shouldn't exist. Just giving my opinion.

[tu_holmes]

Okay

Whats your take on Wall Street and bank CEO's and employees receiving huge bonuses and benefits only made possible because the government leases them money at a low rate and then lending them back to us? Our own money that is.
But you freak out over low paid teachers and cops?

While this is also ridiculous, there's some legal issues that go along with being a CEO or what have you.

When CEOs sign on, they are given contracts which guarantee X amount of dollars.

If they don't get paid their guarantee, I'm sure the courts would just force companies to do it anyway.

Is it right? Morally, of course not, but money has never been about morals.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

The union that represents Border Patrol agents in Southern Arizona and around the country called today for U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to resign.

The National Border Patrol Council cited Holder’s alleged dishonesty about Operation Fast and Furious in making the call. That ATF-led operation put guns from Arizona in the hands of Mexican organized-crime groups, and two of those guns were found at the scene west of Rio Rico where Agent Brian Terry was shot to death in December 2010.

http://azstarnet.com/news/state-and-regional/article_77337770-b97b-11e1-b735-001a4bcf887a.html

Brian Terry would still be dead with or without Fast and Furious.....the cartels have an unlimited supply of weapons and its not like they just got weapons.....

[whork]

Check my post history. Have I ever defended Wall Street and bank CEO's?

I never supported the government bailing them out. I think it's disgusting that they would get bonuses when their companies fail to produce revenue year after year. I never supported government giving them anything. I wanted government to let those companies fail or file for bankruptcy and get their house in order. I believe other companies would have taken their place. They needed to allow the market run its course.

Where am I freaking out about public unions? I believe they shouldn't exist. Just giving my opinion.

Cool thought out reply. Thanks.
Agree 100%

[Soul Crusher]

Brian Terry would still be dead with or without Fast and Furious.....the cartels have an unlimited supply of weapons and its not like they just got weapons.....

  


95er please.   

[Straw Man]

That will probably be the first union that the Left will disown.

and the first the right wing will support

seriously, how can anyone on the right defend a union and especially a public employee union

Holder isn't going to resign ....at this point

If he lied to Congress then it might happen but I don't think he has lied (to the best of my knowledge)

This program started under Bush and unlike Bush, the Obama administration has actually been arresting people and there are ongoing investigations and more potential arrests which is likely the reason for Obama move yesterday

[Soul Crusher]

and the first the right wing will support

seriously, how can anyone on the right defend a union and especially a public employee union

Holder isn't going to resign ....at this point

If he lied to Congress then it might happen but I don't think he has lied (to the best of my knowledge)

This program started under Bush and unlike Bush, the Obama administration has actually been arresting people and there are ongoing investigations and more potential arrests which is likely the reason for Obama move yesterday

Jesus fucking christ are you delusional and factually challenged.   Wide Receiver was nothing like Fast and Furious whatsoever.     

[Straw Man]

Jesus fucking christ are you delusional and factually challenged.   Wide Receiver was nothing like Fast and Furious whatsoever.     

feel free to correct anything I've said with actual facts ..... you know, things you can support with proof

like I said in my post "to the best of my knowledge"

[Option D]

feel free to correct anything I've said with actual facts ..... you know, things you can support with proof

like I said in my post "to the best of my knowledge"

Iran Contra?

[Soul Crusher]

feel free to correct anything I've said with actual facts ..... you know, things you can support with proof

like I said in my post "to the best of my knowledge"

Wide Receiver -

1.  Done in concert with Mexico

2.  Guns never went over the border

3.  Guns were not let in the hands of cartel members out of the sight of ATF

4.  Was immediately shut down internally once a few guns went missing unintentionally.  

Fast and Furious

1.  No tracing mechanism whatsoever

2.  Mexico was NEVER notified

3.  ATF liason and ATF agents in Mexico were never notified

4.  Thousands of Guns went directly into hands of cartel members  

5.  Resulted in deaths of 3 agents as well as 300 plus mexicans and there are still 1500 guns unaccountated for in the hands of narco traffickers

6.  Was only shut down once a whisteleblower came forward after Agent Terry died.  




The two are not even close and the fact that you scumbags are trying to blame Bush when it was AG Ogden who admitted this was on the direction of Obama and holder is pathetic and shameless.


HERE IS THE PROOF YOU FUCKING MORON.  

[Straw Man]

Wide Receiver -

1.  Done in concert with Mexico

2.  Guns never went over the border

3.  Guns were not let in the hands of cartel members out of the sight of ATF

4.  Was immediately shut down internally once a few guns went missing unintentionally.  

Fast and Furious

1.  No tracing mechanism whatsoever

2.  Mexico was NEVER notified

3.  ATF liason and ATF agents in Mexico were never notified

4.  Thousands of Guns went directly into hands of cartel members  

5.  Resulted in deaths of 3 agents as well as 300 plus mexicans and there are still 1500 guns unaccountated for in the hands of narco traffickers

6.  Was only shut down once a whisteleblower came forward after Agent Terry died.  




The two are not even close and the fact that you scumbags are trying to blame Bush when it was AG Ogden who admitted this was on the direction of Obama and holder is pathetic and shameless.


HERE IS THE PROOF YOU FUCKING MORON.  

you know I don't watch your videos

feel free to priovide links to your claims or links to anythign that I said that you claim is not true

[240 is Back]

Wide Receiver -

1.  Done in concert with Mexico
2.  Guns never went over the border
3.  Guns were not let in the hands of cartel members out of the sight of ATF
4.  Was immediately shut down internally once a few guns went missing unintentionally.  

1.  Mexico has a corrupt govt - I'm okay with the US not telling them everything
2.  "The vast majority of the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico"  
3.   You have no clue where the guns went.  How the hell do you say cartel members never got them?
4.   yes, shut down - NOBODY at ATF was prosecuted or fired.  the guy who lost all the guns kept his job and later gaev away all the F&F guns too!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal


So really, 33, the only diff here is that 2 border agents got killed with guns from F&F, and we only know that cause they left the guns sitting there.  There's a whole lotta bodies on the hundreds of guns that BUSH's DOJ lost... they just didn't leave the rifles at the scene with serial numbers.

[Soul Crusher]

1.  Mexico has a corrupt govt - I'm okay with the US not telling them everything
2.  "The vast majority of the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico"  
3.   You have no clue where the guns went.  How the hell do you say cartel members never got them?
4.   Operation started in 2006.  Wasn't reviewed until 2010 when it was shut down.  Guns got lost, they didn't immediately close down, homie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal


So really, 33, the only diff here is that 2 border agents got killed with guns from F&F, and we only know that cause they left the guns sitting there.  There's a whole lotta bodies on the hundreds of guns that BUSH's DOJ lost... they just didn't leave the rifles at the scene with serial numbers.

Hey idiot - show me where the guns of WR wound up at crimie scenes like at F&F? 


The fact that you scumbags are trying to blame bush when it was AG Ogden who admitted this was done at the behest of obama speaks volumes.  And 180 - fuck off, you are a sad troll and a joke.  you are a pathetic and pathological liar on this issue.