ObamaCare stays - SC Rules 6-3

[Voice of Doom]

Did any of you really think that another chance to merge big government and big business wouldn't be passed by the elites?

Really?


Nah, but you go on thinking it's a left/right problem that can be solved in the voting booth.

[garebear]

Auto Insurance is as big as bullshit as a Healthcare Mandate.  The Government should not have the power to force an individual into buying a private product.

Right, an unemployed drunk with no prospects should be able to get a car and financially destroy as many lives as he likes.

It's about freedom.

This is obviously a ploy to take our guns and hide the fact that slaves loved slavery.

[King Shizzo]

Auto Insurance is as big as bullshit as a Healthcare Mandate.  The Government should not have the power to force an individual into buying a private product.

Don't know TA, you would be shit out of luck if you got into an accident with someone without insurance.  I think forced auto insurance is more important then forced health insurance.

[garebear]

Don't know TA, you would be shit out of luck if you got into an accident with someone without insurance.  I think forced auto insurance is more important then forced health insurance.

What about the fact that virtually everyone is going to need health insurance at some point?

In another sense, if you will, everyone is driving a car once they are born.

[Soul Crusher]

Consider the below examples I came up with now totally legitimate under Roberts’ treasonous decision. This does not even scratch the surface of the congress’ new powers:
 
Apple lobbies obama and the congress to force people to buy an ipad as part of an “education law” or face a tax penalty - legal
 
Ruger lobbies Romney to force Americans to buy firearms and take self defense classes under ‘anti-Crime” law or face a tax - legal
 
Chevy wants to recoup its losses from the bailout by lobbying congress to force us to buy a volt or face a tax - legal
 
Solyndra lobbies obama to force americans to buy its solar panels under new “Environmental Law” or face a tax - legal
 
NYSC lobbies Romney to force people to buy gym memberships under new “Anti-Obesity” law or face a tax - legal
 
Monsanto lobbies Obama to force american to buy tomatos, salads, etc under new “Safe Food” law or face a tax - legal
 
Trek lobbies the congress and president to force people to by a mountain bike as part of “anti-obesity” law or face a tax - legal
 
Valvoline lobbies president and congress to mandate proof of oil changes in your car every 4,000 miles as part of “transportation law” or face a tax - legal
 
American Standard lobbies president and congress to by new toilet bowl w new tech as part of “safe water” act or face a tax - legal
 
Johnson and Johnson lobbies congress to force women to use “green tampons” as part of a “environmental law” or face a tax, legal
 
National Assoc. of Realtors lobbies Romney and the Congress as part of a “Economic Growth Law” to force Homeowners to purchase mandatory home warranty for 5 years - Legal
 
See where this is going folks? Roberts is a traitor as he almost single handidly made us slaves this week to literally anything these thugs in the congress want to compel us into.

[The True Adonis]

Don't know TA, you would be shit out of luck if you got into an accident with someone without insurance.  I think forced auto insurance is more important then forced health insurance.

Someone hit me before and they didn`t have insurance, yet I did.  My Insurance covered it.

I think Insurance should be optional.  If two people get in a wreck and they don`t have insurance, then they should take it to the courts and sue in a civil manner which they have every right to do.  Insurance should NOT be required.  I don`t see a single scenario where it would or should be required.

[The True Adonis]

Right, an unemployed drunk with no prospects should be able to get a car and financially destroy as many lives as he likes.

It's about freedom.

This is obviously a ploy to take our guns and hide the fact that slaves loved slavery.

There are a ton of unemployed Drunks with auto insurance who kill people with their cars, what is your point?

[Soul Crusher]

Someone hit me before and they didn`t have insurance, yet I did.  My Insurance covered it.

I think Insurance should be optional.  If two people get in a wreck and they don`t have insurance, then they should take it to the courts and sue in a civil manner which they have every right to do.  Insurance should NOT be required.  I don`t see a single scenario where it would or should be required.

TA - do you think my above examples are not legit? 

[The True Adonis]

What about the fact that virtually everyone is going to need health insurance at some point?

In another sense, if you will, everyone is driving a car once they are born.

Supporting the Private Health Insurance Industry and making them the sole dictators of people`s treatment is NOT the way to go.  A National Health System, Single Payer, TRUE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE is the way to go. The Private Insurance system is a failed joke only looking to make a profit off of human suffering and misery.  Their goal is NOT to help people, but to make the most profit possible.

You support this shit, you are a moron.

[The True Adonis]

TA - do you think my above examples are not legit? 

I see them as valid.  I never thought I would see the day when the FEDERAL Government would FORCE its citizens to purchase a product from the Private Sector or face a fine/tax.

This should not stand and I support the Republican repeal 100 percent.

[Shockwave]

What about the fact that virtually everyone is going to need health insurance at some point?

In another sense, if you will, everyone is driving a car once they are born.

The difference being, you have car insurance to cover someone else, in case you fuck their shit up.
Health Insurance is your own responsibility. The government shouldnt be able to mandate that you HAVE TO BUY insurance for yourself.
Cmon man, get passed the "everyone has a right to healthcare" and look at Obamacare for what it really is. Its not about health insurance - its about private insurance companies bottom lines. Of all people I figured you'd be all over that shit.

[MCWAY]

I see them as valid.  I never thought I would see the day when the FEDERAL Government would FORCE its citizens to purchase a product from the Private Sector or face a fine/tax.

This should not stand and I support the Republican repeal 100 percent.

And, the difference between purchasing something from the government and purchasing something from the private sector would be......

This ObamaCare mess is about eventually forcing people onto government run healthcare by driving the private sector bankrupt. So, contrary to what Obama stated, you will NOT get to keep your plan if you like it. Your employer will likely unload it to the government and cut costs.

[garebear]

Supporting the Private Health Insurance Industry and making them the sole dictators of people`s treatment is NOT the way to go.  A National Health System, Single Payer, TRUE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE is the way to go. The Private Insurance system is a failed joke only looking to make a profit off of human suffering and misery.  Their goal is NOT to help people, but to make the most profit possible.

You support this shit, you are a moron.

Do you know that pre-existing conditions must be covered now?

That was a major hurdle before. Insurance companies could simply keep out the people who need insurance the most in order to maximize profits.

You knew that, right?

Why are you name-calling on the internet now? I don't remember you doing it before.

I wrote unemployed drunk driver when I should have written uninsured drunk driver. It is now a crime not to have insurance and drive, which isn't perfect, but at least it cuts down on that bullshit happening, not to mention making it a crime.

Were you born into wealth?

[orion]

Someone hit me before and they didn`t have insurance, yet I did.  My Insurance covered it.

I think Insurance should be optional.  If two people get in a wreck and they don`t have insurance, then they should take it to the courts and sue in a civil manner which they have every right to do.  Insurance should NOT be required.  I don`t see a single scenario where it would or should be required.

Well it sounds like the guy who hit you was probably driving without insurance for years and probably saved himself thousands of dollars.  I'm sure there are lots of assholes like that out there,  guys who can't get insurance because of multiple DUIs, driving with suspended licences.  Because you had insurance I'm pretty sure your insurance company had to recoup their loss somehow, either they sued the guy or they raised your rates.
To say you can't think of a single instance you think insurance would be required is, well, assinine.  Suppose you are out in your brand new Vette and some guy scrapes you in the parking lot causing ten thousand dollars worth of damage and takes off.  What are you going to do? Pay for it out of your pocket?
I was rear ended once and my car was totaled.  I got my check within a week.  To take someone to court takes months,  Maybe he is wealthy and has a five hundred dollar an hour lawyer on retainer and decides to bury you in paper work and legal fees.  What if your young daughter gets crippled for life and will need medical care for the rest of her life?  The senarios are endless, I could go on for pages but my fingers are tired.

[Roger Bacon]

What about the fact that virtually everyone is going to need health insurance at some point?

In another sense, if you will, everyone is driving a car once they are born.

Food is even more essential than healthcare, high quality food.  Why is their no nationalized grocery system?  I'm serious, at least a million people in the United States could be considered malnourished.  Children in Appalachia have rotten teeth from eating so much candy and pop.

Would you support nationalized groceries?

[Roger Bacon]

You're not required to have insurance in a lot of states if you post a bond with the DMV.

[Soul Crusher]

You're not required to have insurance in a lot of states if you post a bond with the DMV.

Auto insurance is nothing like ThugCare. 

And the ER issue is a sham since most of the people abusing the ER are illegals from mexico and south of the border. 


FU Obama
FU Cuntlosi
FU Reid
FU Roberts
FUGWB

[Roger Bacon]

Auto insurance is nothing like ThugCare.  

And the ER issue is a sham since most of the people abusing the ER are illegals from mexico and south of the border.  


FU Obama
FU Cuntlosi
FU Reid
FU Roberts
FUGWB

I have a police scanner.  Ten or so calls a day are dispatches to real emergencies in middle and upper class neighborhoods.  The other three hundred (and I am not exaggerating here at all) are to lower income areas of town for absolute bullshit.  

Calls to the ghetto for "sunburns", "toe nail that fell off", "kid with his penis stuck in a shampoo bottle" (swear to god), "Child that hasn't had a bowel movement in eight hours", etc.... All non emergency calls to the ghetto.

[Soul Crusher]

I have a police scanner.  Ten or so calls a day are dispatches to real emergencies in middle and upper class neighborhoods.  The other three hundred (and I am not exaggerating here at all) are to lower income areas of town for absolute bullshit.  

Calls to the ghetto for "sunburns", "toe nail that fell off", "kid with his penis stuck in a shampoo bottle" (swear to god), "Child that hasn't had a bowel movement in eight hours", etc.... All non emergency calls to the ghetto.

20% of this nation is sucking out 80% of the resources.   

The ghetto thugs, illegals, welfare mobs, Section 8 scumbags, WIC addicts, dopers, enviro-communists, LGBT, et al are destroying this nation w their endless demands for more free shit. 

[Roger Bacon]

20% of this nation is sucking out 80% of the resources.   

The ghetto thugs, illegals, welfare mobs, Section 8 scumbags, WIC addicts, dopers, enviro-communists, LGBT, et al are destroying this nation w their endless demands for more free shit. 

It's weird, but that 20/80 rule seems to apply to everything.

[Tigerblood]

Did any of you really think that another chance to merge big government and big business wouldn't be passed by the elites?

Really?


Nah, but you go on thinking it's a left/right problem that can be solved in the voting booth.

I know where you're coming from and I don't believe it's going to stop there I believe things are just going to keep getting worse. Before you know it there be another false flag attack in order to attack our individual rights and freedoms that we have left. We have choices in front of us and I'm speaking to all of you - either we keep living as slaves or we choose to take action and use our 2nd Amendment rights.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. " - Thomas Jefferson

[The True Adonis]

Well it sounds like the guy who hit you was probably driving without insurance for years and probably saved himself thousands of dollars.  I'm sure there are lots of assholes like that out there,  guys who can't get insurance because of multiple DUIs, driving with suspended licences.  Because you had insurance I'm pretty sure your insurance company had to recoup their loss somehow, either they sued the guy or they raised your rates.
To say you can't think of a single instance you think insurance would be required is, well, assinine.  Suppose you are out in your brand new Vette and some guy scrapes you in the parking lot causing ten thousand dollars worth of damage and takes off.  What are you going to do? Pay for it out of your pocket?
I was rear ended once and my car was totaled.  I got my check within a week.  To take someone to court takes months,  Maybe he is wealthy and has a five hundred dollar an hour lawyer on retainer and decides to bury you in paper work and legal fees.  What if your young daughter gets crippled for life and will need medical care for the rest of her life?  The senarios are endless, I could go on for pages but my fingers are tired.

1. Your Vette Example:  Insurance should cover YOUR property should you choose to have a policy.  If someone hits you, your insurance pays.  If you choose not to have insurance, you pay.  You should have both options available and not be forced to buy insurance.

2. I don`t understand what a crippled family member has to do with Insurance.  You can choose to have Insurance and it should cover you and nobody else.  Insurance should be for YOUR protection.  Someone elses insurance policy should not be for anyone else but themselves.  Furthermore, one can sue and get a civil judgement pretty easily.

[Soul Crusher]

1. Your Vette Example:  Insurance should cover YOUR property should you choose to have a policy.  If someone hits you, your insurance pays.  If you choose not to have insurance, you pay.  You should have both options available and not be forced to buy insurance.

2. I don`t understand what a crippled family member has to do with Insurance.  You can choose to have Insurance and it should cover you and nobody else.  Insurance should be for YOUR protection.  Someone elses insurance policy should not be for anyone else but themselves.  Furthermore, one can sue and get a civil judgement pretty easily.

Too much common sense for the slaves to grasp TA.   Good post BTW 

These idiots cheering on what Roberts did have no clue what has been unleashed. 

[MCWAY]

1. Your Vette Example:  Insurance should cover YOUR property should you choose to have a policy.  If someone hits you, your insurance pays.  If you choose not to have insurance, you pay.  You should have both options available and not be forced to buy insurance.

2. I don`t understand what a crippled family member has to do with Insurance.  You can choose to have Insurance and it should cover you and nobody else.  Insurance should be for YOUR protection.  Someone elses insurance policy should not be for anyone else but themselves.  Furthermore, one can sue and get a civil judgement pretty easily.

There's just one problem with your premise. You're only complaining about the government forcing people to buy insurance, because most insurance companies and policies are in the PRIVATE SECTOR.

However, you seem to have no problem with people being forced to buy insurance when it's run by the government.

So, for you, the issue isn't the principle that government can't force somebody to buy something, only who gets the checks (government vs. private sector).

[The True Adonis]

There's just one problem with your premise. You're only complaining about the government forcing people to buy insurance, because most insurance companies and policies are in the PRIVATE SECTOR.

However, you seem to have no problem with people being forced to buy insurance when it's run by the government.

What gives?

Wrong.  I don`t know where you came up with that assumption.  I support a single payer system without any insurance from anybody unless you want some sort of special coverage which would be for things such as plastic surgery etc..