Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Remember your comment about Rasmussen being the only honest poll....well they have Obama leading by 1 and he's pulling away in battleground states from Romney

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

[240 is Back]

33, please 'refudiate' this. 

[Soul Crusher]

33, please 'refudiate' this. 

Big deal 1 point.   

[240 is Back]

Big deal 1 point.   

great point.  Cleary Advantage: Romney.

[dario73]

Data for the tracking poll is based upon nightly interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, just two-thirds of the interviews for today’s update were conducted following the Supreme Court ruling on the president’s health care law. Tomorrow will be the first update based entirely upon interviews conducted since that ruling.

[240 is Back]

swing vote/middle of road peopel are stupid sheep and want to be on the winning side.

they vote for perz based upon who has better hair or who played sax on arsenio or who they'd rather have a beer with.

if you have any opinion on obamacare, you are ALREADY voting against him.

I don't see him losing points by winning the ruling.  Nobody who watched him shove the legislation thru supporting him polls last week, then suddenly decided not to because "it's still there".   So I guess we'll see, but a week from now, I highly doubt romney leads in all these polls lol..

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Big deal 1 point.   

Well, its 2 points and its rising in Ras along with every other poll.  Rasmussen even has his approval rate at 50%

[240 is Back]

Well, its 2 points and its rising in Ras along with every other poll.  Rasmussen even has his approval rate at 50%

this is unacceptable.  We need a new polling organization which reflects how getbiggers feel, where Romney is willing by 75%.

[Kazan]

I still fail to understand why some seem to put to much importance on polls. They sample about .0000000003% of the population, yet that is irrefutable evidence that Obama will win re-elections

[andreisdaman]

Big deal 1 point.   

funny...when Romney is leading by just 1 point, you claim that the margin is as wide as the Grand Canyon

[Shockwave]

I still fail to understand why some seem to put to much importance on polls. They sample about .0000000003% of the population, yet that is irrefutable evidence that Obama will win re-elections

This.
Polls are fucking pointless IMHO.

[andreisdaman]

This.
Polls are fucking pointless IMHO.

I wouldn't say they are pointless but your skepticism is warranted

[240 is Back]

rass and 538 were SPOT ON in their 2008 presidential predictions.  I couldn't call them meaningless at all.  they were brilliant oracles.

[MCWAY]

Remember your comment about Rasmussen being the only honest poll....well they have Obama leading by 1 and he's pulling away in battleground states from Romney

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

His lead is within the margin of error, Vince. That means, effectively, it's a tie.

And, as had been explained several times before not, you have the undecided voters, nearly all of which tend to go AGAINST the incumbent.

If Obama is up 46-44 in Rasmussen, what happens with that 10% of undecideds? If he's up 47-44 against Romney in Gallup, what happens to the 9% of undecideds?

Let's not forget also that Obama got a huge bump in the polls, last year, after Bin Laden got killed. Three months later (as more economic bad news hit), he was in the 30s.

Edit - Rasmussen has them tied at 45.

[240 is Back]

Three months later (as more economic bad news hit), he was in the 30s.

he was at 39% for 5 minutes before bouncing back up over 50?

[Soul Crusher]

Remember the polls after bin laden for a week?   Same for this once next weeks jobs numbers come out

[andreisdaman]

His lead is within the margin of error, Vince. That means, effectively, it's a tie.

And, as had been explained several times before not, you have the undecided voters, nearly all of which tend to go AGAINST the incumbent.

If Obama is up 46-44 in Rasmussen, what happens with that 10% of undecideds? If he's up 47-44 against Romney in Gallup, what happens to the 9% of undecideds?

Let's not forget also that Obama got a huge bump in the polls, last year, after Bin Laden got killed. Three months later (as more economic bad news hit), he was in the 30s.

This is hardly unprecedented....The first George Bush was at over 70% after the Gulf War....yet he took a similar plummet as well when the economy went sour........

nice try though

[MCWAY]

he was at 39% for 5 minutes before bouncing back up over 50?

He didn't bounce back for several months. He only has four months left. Obama couldn't sell ObamaCare over three years.

Besides, didn't you say that Romney needed ObamaCare to stand, or he'd have nothing against which to run to beat Obama?

[MCWAY]

This is hardly unprecedented....The first George Bush was at over 70% after the Gulf War....yet he took a similar plummet as well when the economy went sour........

nice try though

Thank you for making my point. The tanking economy DROPPED Obama's numbers after Bin Laden got killed. And further economic woes will flatten this bump (far less than the one he got last year), based on ObamaCare.

[andreisdaman]

Thank you for making my point. The tanking economy DROPPED Obama's numbers after Bin Laden got killed. And further economic woes will flatten this bump (far less than the one he got last year), based on ObamaCare.

I can see your point...but it remains questionable whether Obamacare will make his numbers go down further....the Conservative Supreme Court gave Obama much-needed political cover on this issue....Obama will literally crush Romney on this point once the debates get started and Obama looks right at Romney and says "my healthcare plan is basically an exact copy of the one you implemented in Massachusetts"...Romney will shit himself and Obama will win on this point...

The economy is another story...Romney may have him on that

[MCWAY]

I can see your point...but it remains questionable whether Obamacare will make his numbers go down further....the Conservative Supreme Court gave Obama much-needed political cover on this issue....Obama will literally crush Romney on this point once the debates get started and Obama looks right at Romney and says "my healthcare plan is basically an exact copy of the one you implemented in Massachusetts"...Romney will shit himself and Obama will win on this point...

The economy is another story...Romney may have him on that

Obama doesn't have political cover. He campaigned on NOT RAISING taxes on the middle class. That was BS, based on ObamaCare, which we were saying years ago. What the Supreme Court just did was say (in a perverse way) that we were right.

As for the debates, don't bet on Obama destroying anybody. Santorum and Gingrich tried that same approach on Romney in the GOP debates. It didn't work. Plus, Romney now has a counter, clobbering Obama with his own campaign promise not to raise taxes on the middle class (at least 12 taxes in ObamaCare hike those up on people who make under $250,000).

[andreisdaman]

Obama doesn't have political cover. He campaigned on NOT RAISING taxes on the middle class. That was BS, based on ObamaCare, which we were saying years ago. What the Supreme Court just did was say (in a perverse way) that we were right.

As for the debates, don't bet on Obama destroying anybody. Santorum and Gingrich tried that same approach on Romney in the GOP debates. It didn't work. Plus, Romney now has a counter, clobbering Obama with his own campaign promise not to raise taxes on the middle class (at least 12 taxes in ObamaCare hike those up on people who make under $250,000).

if it is a tax its a tax that is earmarked to actually go to a certain program that will benefit all...not into the general coffers where who knows where it will go..the american people,will see that

[Soul Crusher]

if it is a tax its a tax that is earmarked to actually go to a certain program that will benefit all...not into the general coffers where who knows where it will go..the american people,will see that

So how is a mandate a tax now ? 

What if Romney and the congress pass a law saying every american has to fly a confederate battle flag in their front yard or face a tax.   Are you ok w that slave? 

[MCWAY]

if it is a tax its a tax that is earmarked to actually go to a certain program that will benefit all...not into the general coffers where who knows where it will go..the american people,will see that

They haven't seen that in THREE YEARS, Andre. The beating the Dems took in 2010 is proof of that.

Romney said it best. ObamaCare was bad law before Thursday; it's bad law NOW. Constitutional or not, it SUCKS!!!

You honestly think Obama and the Dems can do in four months, what they couldn't do in over three years, especially with the added burden of explaining that they've done what they swore they wouldn't do.

[MCWAY]

So how is a mandate a tax now ? 

What if Romney and the congress pass a law saying every american has to fly a confederate battle flag in their front yard or face a tax.   Are you ok w that slave? 

That's what some folks don't get. NOTHING has changed about this law, except that it's been officially deemed what many said it was all along: A GIANT TAX.