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Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2012, 11:58:01 AM »
Obama will literally crush Romney on this point once the debates get started and Obama looks right at Romney and says "my healthcare plan is basically an exact copy of the one you implemented in Massachusetts"...Romney will shit himself and Obama will win on this point...

Wrong, that would guarantee the incontinence vote for Romney.

But seriously, you don't think they'll be incredibly prepared for this angle?
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Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2012, 01:26:10 PM »
So how is a mandate a tax now ? 

What if Romney and the congress pass a law saying every american has to fly a confederate battle flag in their front yard or face a tax.   Are you ok w that slave? 

c'mon..flying a flag has nothing to do with interstate commerce

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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2012, 01:29:05 PM »
They haven't seen that in THREE YEARS, Andre. The beating the Dems took in 2010 is proof of that.

Romney said it best. ObamaCare was bad law before Thursday; it's bad law NOW. Constitutional or not, it SUCKS!!!

You honestly think Obama and the Dems can do in four months, what they couldn't do in over three years, especially with the added burden of explaining that they've done what they swore they wouldn't do.



the beating the Dems took in the mid-term elections was due to a lot of issues converging at one time......Obama's birth certificate issue.....the healthcare debate.....the fact that the Repubs would not do anything to help the economy or the American people in any way whatsoever.....so nothing could get done and it was blamed on Obama...the economy......etc..also the tea party was well organized and galvanized

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Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2012, 01:31:13 PM »
c'mon..flying a flag has nothing to do with interstate commerce

LOL.   But deciding not to purchase something is?  

You thugs supporting what roberts did have no idea the slavery you are endorsing.

Let me put it another way easier for you to understand , S L A V E , let's say Romney and the Congress force you to buy a gym membership and show proof you are exercising 5 times a week or face a "fat tax", are you ok with that - YES OR NO?    

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« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2012, 01:33:58 PM »
the beating the Dems took in the mid-term elections was due to a lot of issues converging at one time......Obama's birth certificate issue.....the healthcare debate.....the fact that the Repubs would not do anything to help the economy or the American people in any way whatsoever.....so nothing could get done and it was blamed on Obama...the economy......etc..also the tea party was well organized and galvanized


TEA Party is more organized than ever after this treason and slavery you pieces of garbage rammed through.     

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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2012, 01:38:20 PM »
Wrong, that would guarantee the incontinence vote for Romney.

But seriously, you don't think they'll be incredibly prepared for this angle?

they can prepare all they want..there is no getting around it..it is what it is...Romney's healthcare bill preceded Obama's..unless Romney has a time machine you can't get around that....as for the incontinence vote (nice moniker), they are not going to vote against a bill that will potentially make sure they are taken care of...running on a platform of taking healthcare AWAY is not good business if you want the old folks vote

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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2012, 01:40:29 PM »
they can prepare all they want..there is no getting around it..it is what it is...Romney's healthcare bill preceded Obama's..unless Romney has a time machine you can't get around that....as for the incontinence vote (nice moniker), they are not going to vote against a bill that will potentially make sure they are taken care of...running on a platform of taking healthcare AWAY is not good business if you want the old folks vote

The mandate is not the only thing horrible about ObamaCare you dope!   


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Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2012, 01:41:34 PM »
LOL.   But deciding not to purchase something is?  

You thugs supporting what roberts did have no idea the slavery you are endorsing.

Let me put it another way easier for you to understand , S L A V E , let's say Romney and the Congress force you to buy a gym membership and show proof you are exercising 5 times a week or face a "fat tax", are you ok with that - YES OR NO?    

dude for far too long, young people and others in this society have been living off our backs due to their not having insurance...when they get sick and  go to the emergency room, who do you think pays for that???..and when they have to spend days or weeks in the hospital, where does that money come from to pay for it????.....

you are contradicting yourself because you are the one always railing about people getting shit for free off our backs..this bill will end that...youngsters and everyone else will now have to pay for insurance like the rest of us...you can't be that dumb not to see that?????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2012, 01:42:10 PM »
The mandate is not the only thing horrible about ObamaCare you dope!   



what else then?

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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2012, 01:44:53 PM »
dude for far too long, young people and others in this society have been living off our backs due to their not having insurance...when they get sick and  go to the emergency room, who do you think pays for that???..and when they have to spend days or weeks in the hospital, where does that money come from to pay for it????.....

you are contradicting yourself because you are the one always railing about people getting shit for free off our backs..this bill will end that...youngsters and everyone else will now have to pay for insurance like the rest of us...you can't be that dumb not to see that?????????????????????????????????????????????????


That is hysterical, truly hysterical since illegals, who ghettobama refuses to boot out, are the biggest absuers of tghe ER, yet are thery going to buy insurance?   NO!!!! 

And if ThugCare were limited solely to the ER, fine, you can make that argument, but how many people run to the ER for free condoms and BC you jackass?   

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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2012, 01:49:45 PM »

That is hysterical, truly hysterical since illegals, who ghettobama refuses to boot out, are the biggest absuers of tghe ER, yet are thery going to buy insurance?   NO!!!! 

And if ThugCare were limited solely to the ER, fine, you can make that argument, but how many people run to the ER for free condoms and BC you jackass?   

you goddamn idiot.....in terms of illegal aliens OBAMA HAS DEPORTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT......DEPORTATI ONS SKYROCKETED UNDER OBAMA......and you know this you moron.....your arguments are getting more and more incoherent.....and while illegal aliens do often make use of the ER, Americans far and away use the ER more than they do...if anything they avoid doctors because they don't like too many questions asked and mostly use the ER for their children, many of whom are American born

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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2012, 01:50:55 PM »
you goddamn idiot.....in terms of illegal aliens OBAMA HAS DEPORTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT......DEPORTATI ONS SKYROCKETED UNDER OBAMA......and you know this you moron.....your arguments are getting more and more incoherent.....and while illegal aliens do often make use of the ER, Americans far and away use the ER more than they do...if anything they avoid doctors because they don't like too many questions asked and mostly use the ER for their children, many of whom are American born


So now Obama is going to force people to get checkups and go to the doctor? 

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« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2012, 01:53:19 PM »

So now Obama is going to force people to get checkups and go to the doctor? 

I didn't hear about that being in the bill..but it is sound practice.....people should go to the doctor at least once every year or every two years just for a check-up and physical...this way, lots of preventable diseases can be caught and treated before they get out of control and cost even more

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« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2012, 01:59:48 PM »
I didn't hear about that being in the bill..but it is sound practice.....people should go to the doctor at least once every year or every two years just for a check-up and physical...this way, lots of preventable diseases can be caught and treated before they get out of control and cost even more

What else do you want to force people to do?

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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2012, 02:15:59 PM »
you goddamn idiot.....in terms of illegal aliens OBAMA HAS DEPORTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT......DEPORTATI ONS SKYROCKETED UNDER OBAMA......and you know this you moron.....your arguments are getting more and more incoherent.....and while illegal aliens do often make use of the ER, Americans far and away use the ER more than they do...if anything they avoid doctors because they don't like too many questions asked and mostly use the ER for their children, many of whom are American born

Actually, idiot, that was proven to be complete bullshit and just a massaging of numbers. They consider any person turned away at the border to be a "deportation", regardless of whether they step foot in this country or not. When you remove that bullshit statistic, it turns out that deportations under Obama have decreased quite a bit.

Your arguments are fucking retarded and indicative of an uneducated moron who believes everything fed to him.

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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2012, 03:04:08 PM »
the beating the Dems took in the mid-term elections was due to a lot of issues converging at one time......Obama's birth certificate issue.....the healthcare debate.....the fact that the Repubs would not do anything to help the economy or the American people in any way whatsoever.....so nothing could get done and it was blamed on Obama...the economy......etc..also the tea party was well organized and galvanized

And the Tea Party isn't going to be well-organized and galvanized in 2012 because......

The healthcare debate is BACK, front and center. This time, the people get to see more of ObamaCare's warts.

The Dems had both houses of Congress. So, if anything didn't get done, it was on THEM, not the Republicans.

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« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2012, 04:38:17 PM »
They haven't seen that in THREE YEARS, Andre. The beating the Dems took in 2010 is proof of that.

Romney said it best. ObamaCare was bad law before Thursday; it's bad law NOW. Constitutional or not, it SUCKS!!!

You honestly think Obama and the Dems can do in four months, what they couldn't do in over three years, especially with the added burden of explaining that they've done what they swore they wouldn't do.



Don't you see how hypocritical Romney is for saying its bad law when HE HIMSELF did the same thing>???..I don't care how you twist and turn Mcway you can't worm out of that!!!!!

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Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2012, 04:41:13 PM »
The healthcare debate is BACK, front and center. This time, the people get to see more of ObamaCare's warts.

but nothing has changed.  ya know?

if you opposed obamacare, you still do.  you were never part of the 48% supporting obama in polls.

what % of voters will say "nothing has changed with obamacare, but suddenly I go from supporting it, to being dead set against it"?

The lines were drawn long ago.  it'll galvanize donations from those who were already anti-obama, sure.  But who is going to change their vote because 'nothing has changed'?

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« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2012, 04:43:27 PM »
What else do you want to force people to do?

well..I'd like to force you to get a job

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« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2012, 04:44:46 PM »
Don't you see how hypocritical Romney is for saying its bad law when HE HIMSELF did the same thing>???..I don't care how you twist and turn Mcway you can't worm out of that!!!!!

Hypocriticial? NEGRO, PLEASE!!!

Who raised taxes on the middle class, after swearing he wouldn't do so?

Who looked Rick Warren dead in the eye and said, "Marriage is between a man and a woman", only to "evolve" and grovel before gays for campaign cash?

Who said ObamaCare wasn't a tax, only to have his lawyers defend it as such in court?

Who supposedly hates outsourcing jobs, yet let his boy, Jeff Immelt, ship a major portion of his GE plants overseas and pay ABSOLUTELY ZERO in taxes?

The "Romneycare is ObamaCare" argument didn't work Romney's GOP opponents for over a year. And, it ain't working for Obama, either.


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« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2012, 04:46:20 PM »
but nothing has changed.  ya know?

if you opposed obamacare, you still do.  you were never part of the 48% supporting obama in polls.

what % of voters will say "nothing has changed with obamacare, but suddenly I go from supporting it, to being dead set against it"?

The lines were drawn long ago.  it'll galvanize donations from those who were already anti-obama, sure.  But who is going to change their vote because 'nothing has changed'?

The answer is: Independents, working-class white voters, and some Obama voters who feel the siphoning of their wallets.

And, if Obama loses too many of working-class whites, he is DONE!!


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« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2012, 04:46:58 PM »
Actually, idiot, that was proven to be complete bullshit and just a massaging of numbers. They consider any person turned away at the border to be a "deportation", regardless of whether they step foot in this country or not. When you remove that bullshit statistic, it turns out that deportations under Obama have decreased quite a bit.

Your arguments are fucking retarded and indicative of an uneducated moron who believes everything fed to him.

oh brother..all hail the wizard of truth..you know everything....I have never ever seen you admit to being wrong about anything on GetBig...are you even a human?..do you really exist?...are you a bot?....be wrong about something for a change dude....get real....

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« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2012, 04:48:38 PM »
The answer is: Independents, working-class white voters, and some Obama voters who feel the siphoning of their wallets.

but the repubs aren't offering anything different, and they support probably 80% of obamacare, like "children cannot be refused" and "no rejection based upon pre-existing conditions".

And the mandate, that's a dead issue now.

So um, what exact parts of obamacare are repubs going to run against?  indiv mandate isn't going anywhere, and no way they go after most of the parts.

They'll have ceremonial bullshit votes to waste money and give beck something to talk about - but really, it's over now.  

how exactly are independents going to buy into that again?

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« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2012, 04:53:16 PM »
but the repubs aren't offering anything different, and they support probably 80% of obamacare, like "children cannot be refused" and "no rejection based upon pre-existing conditions".

And the mandate, that's a dead issue now.

So um, what exact parts of obamacare are repubs going to run against?  indiv mandate isn't going anywhere, and no way they go after most of the parts.

They'll have ceremonial bullshit votes to waste money and give beck something to talk about - but really, it's over now.  

how exactly are independents going to buy into that again?

How about the parts where their premiums get SHOT through the roof?

The fact that their taxes are going up (75% of ObamaCare's costs hit those making under 120K)?

This notion that the GOP has to offer something different of leave ObamaCare alone is ludicrous. THREE YEARS STRAIGHT, the American people have stated they want ObamaCare gone.

Not gone, once the GOP has an alternative, just plain GONE!!


If Romney wins the White House and the GOP win the Senate, holding the house, kiss ObamaCare goodbye. And, contrary to what some liberals keep claiming, the Republicans don't need a supermajority in the Senate to do it, because Roberts and the four libs on the USSC said ObamaCare was a TAX.

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« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2012, 05:09:52 PM »
once the GOP has an alternative.

Well, it's been how many decades now? 

I'm not holding my breath on that one.  Repubs like how it was - when healthy working slobs in their early 30s were paying 250 a month for health insurance.