McConnell can't say how GOP will insure 30m after repealing ObamaCare

[blacken700]

[Skip8282]

Biggest problem I've had with the Repubs throughout the entire debate.  Got to have a viable alternative.

[MCWAY]

Biggest problem I've had with the Repubs throughout the entire debate.  Got to have a viable alternative.

No, they don't.

The anger about ObamaCare has been there for over three years. They want ObamaCare GONE, and nowhere are the voters saying the Republicans can't get rid of it, unless they can replace it with something else.

Clearly, for all the flaws that healthcare had prior to ObamaCare, people would rather go back to that than have this garbage.

[Straw Man]

No, they don't.

The anger about ObamaCare has been there for over three years. They want ObamaCare GONE, and nowhere are the voters saying the Republicans can't get rid of it, unless they can replace it with something else.
Clearly, for all the flaws that healthcare had prior to ObamaCare, people would rather go back to that than have this garbage.

if you got your news from somewhere other than Glen Beck you'd know that many provision of the health care legislation are very popular and the Repubs KNOW they would have to have something to replace it if they were ever able to repeal it

they were already working on this before they found out it was going to be upheld

[Soul Crusher]

Who are these "30 million" and how many are illegals? 

How many are young people who only need a cheap hospitalization plan and nothing else? 

How many already qualify for medicade and are not signed up? 


Just throwing around numbers without showing whether that number is legit and what is comprises of is pure emotional crappola from the hard leftists statist progressives seeking to ram through their radical agenda. 

[MCWAY]

if you got your news from somewhere other than Glen Beck you'd know that many provision of the health care legislation are very popular and the Repubs KNOW they would have to have something to replace it if they were ever able to repeal it

they were already working on this before they found out it was going to be upheld

One, nobody is talking about Glenn Beck besides you.

Two, if ObamaCare were so popular, the Dems would've have been pummeled in 2010.

Three, the Dems haven't been able to sell this crap for three years straight. Citing a provision here and a provision there doesn't mean JACK, when it comes to throwing out all of this garbage.

Four, my point stands. The American people have stated for three years plus that ObamaCare SUCKS and they want it GONE. Nowhere is anyone saying, "It sucks but keep it in place, until you can replace it with something better".

Five, they certainly don't want the astronomical prices that come along with ObamaCare, tax hikes on them which Obama swore wouldn't happen. Our vets are a prime example. Obama is trying to sodomize them by hiking up their rates nearly FOURFOLD (while leaving the unionized DoD buddies of his untouched).

Obama has hardly mentioned his signature bill in his campaign, for good reason. It's a major millstone around his neck.

[Skip8282]

Four, my point stands. The American people have stated for three years plus that ObamaCare SUCKS and they want it GONE. Nowhere is anyone saying, "It sucks but keep it in place, until you can replace it with something better".

Yeah, I won't argue that.  But prior to the debate and during the debate, pretty much everybody was in agreement that reform was necessary.  Medical inflation is double, access, litigation, etc, etc.

There were some decent attempts, but I can't remember the Republicans (as a party) putting together a cohesive, uniform plan to deal with it.

We should get rid of Obamacare, but a replacement plan should be enacted immediately as well.

[MCWAY]

Yeah, I won't argue that.  But prior to the debate and during the debate, pretty much everybody was in agreement that reform was necessary.  Medical inflation is double, access, litigation, etc, etc.

There were some decent attempts, but I can't remember the Republicans (as a party) putting together a cohesive, uniform plan to deal with it.

We should get rid of Obamacare, but a replacement plan should be enacted immediately as well.

Enacting something immediately is how we got ObamaCare in the first place. As McConnell said, let the states handle some of these measures.

[whork]

Biggest problem I've had with the Repubs throughout the entire debate.  Got to have a viable alternative.

+1

[whork]

No, they don't.

The anger about ObamaCare has been there for over three years. They want ObamaCare GONE, and nowhere are the voters saying the Republicans can't get rid of it, unless they can replace it with something else.

Clearly, for all the flaws that healthcare had prior to ObamaCare, people would rather go back to that than have this garbage.

Yes lets get back to insurance companies denying health care coverage for kids

Where in your precious bible does it say that its okay to kill kids for profit?

[Soul Crusher]

Yes lets get back to insurance companies denying health care coverage for kids

Where in your precious bible does it say that its okay to kill kids for profit?

More scare tactics and bullshit.  You stupid fucks and communist rabble are cheering give up your freedom for the promise of what you think is free stuff.   

[avxo]

Biggest problem I've had with the Repubs throughout the entire debate.  Got to have a viable alternative.

Why?

[whork]

More scare tactics and bullshit.  You stupid fucks and communist rabble are cheering give up your freedom for the promise of what you think is free stuff.   

What freedom? The freedom to get health care for our kids?

[Soul Crusher]

Why?

A viable alternative:

1.  Offer High Deductible Catastrophic Care coupled w HSA
2.  Tort Reform
3.  Offer Insurance across state lines


Etc etc.  Etc.    

[avxo]

What freedom? The freedom to get health care for our kids?

You're free to try to get healthcare for your kids if you want. And I, as a company providing health insurance, should be free to tell you "sorry, not interested." Do you really think it's appropriate to compel me to provide health insurance for your kid?

[avxo]

A viable alternative:

1.  Offer High Deductible Catastrophic Care coupled w HSA
2.  Tort Reform
3.  Offer Insurance across state lines


Etc etc.  Etc.    

That doesn't answer my question: why does the GOP have to offer an alternative to Obamacare?

[Soul Crusher]

That doesn't answer my question: why does the GOP have to offer an alternative to Obamacare?

Because in today's stupid emotionally driven society, the baby who cries the loudest gets his way.  Its not right, but that is how it is, sadly. 

[whork]

You're free to try to get healthcare for your kids if you want. And I, as a company providing health insurance, should be free to tell you "sorry, not interested." Do you really think it's appropriate to compel me to provide health insurance for your kid?

If you are a company who is making billions on your trade i think you should

[whork]

Its your own responsibility to get your own health insurance, not a political party.  Depending on the govt for healthcare  . Depend on yourselves.  Repubs dont need a viable alt.  No alternative is better. Pay for it yourself or die of whatever you have.  Those 30 million should either figure out how to get better coverage or make their peace with this world and die.  Do for yourselves. 

Pay for bombings in the middle east= OK

Pay for medical care for you and your children= No-go

 

[garebear]

Its your own responsibility to get your own health insurance, not a political party.  Depending on the govt for healthcare  . Depend on yourselves.  Repubs dont need a viable alt.  No alternative is better. Pay for it yourself or die of whatever you have.  Those 30 million should either figure out how to get better coverage or make their peace with this world and die.  Do for yourselves. 

Well, I'll give you this, at least you're honest.

Should the kids die, too? I mean, is it their fault they don't have any insurance?

[Soul Crusher]

Well, I'll give you this, at least you're honest.

Should the kids die, too? I mean, is it their fault they don't have any insurance?

We already have programs for the poor at the fed and state level you ignorant twat. 

[garebear]

We already have programs for the poor at the fed and state level you ignorant twat. 

Yes, for the poor.

What if you're middle class and have a kid with a pre-existing condition or the insurance company cuts the kid off? Your scenario encourages people to go on welfare, but probably just so you can complain more. Your life's passion, and all.

I see you're in super tough mode again, anonymously calling people names on the internet.

[Soul Crusher]

Yes, for the poor.

What if you're middle class and have a kid with a pre-existing condition or the insurance company cuts the kid off? Your scenario encourages people to go on welfare, but probably just so you can complain more. Your life's passion, and all.

I see you're in super tough mode again, anonymously calling people names on the internet.

How many cases did that actually occur to where it justified upending the entire nation? 

All emotion no facts for you leftist whiners. 

[blacken700]

Yes, for the poor.

What if you're middle class and have a kid with a pre-existing condition or the insurance company cuts the kid off? Your scenario encourages people to go on welfare, but probably just so you can complain more. Your life's passion, and all.

I see you're in super tough mode again, anonymously calling people names on the internet.

that's his and a few of his friends on here m.o. get on the keyboard and become superman

[Straw Man]

One, nobody is talking about Glenn Beck besides you.

Two, if ObamaCare were so popular, the Dems would've have been pummeled in 2010.

Three, the Dems haven't been able to sell this crap for three years straight. Citing a provision here and a provision there doesn't mean JACK, when it comes to throwing out all of this garbage.

Four, my point stands. The American people have stated for three years plus that ObamaCare SUCKS and they want it GONE. Nowhere is anyone saying, "It sucks but keep it in place, until you can replace it with something better".

Five, they certainly don't want the astronomical prices that come along with ObamaCare, tax hikes on them which Obama swore wouldn't happen. Our vets are a prime example. Obama is trying to sodomize them by hiking up their rates nearly FOURFOLD (while leaving the unionized DoD buddies of his untouched).

Obama has hardly mentioned his signature bill in his campaign, for good reason. It's a major millstone around his neck.

if the loss in 2010 for the Dems was due to the healthcare legislation then it was in large part by dopes like you who watched Glenn Beck and then got hysterical about death panels, "takeover" of health care,  that it was unconstitutional and that Obama was going to throw you in jail if they didn't have insurance

The Repubs are assholes but they are smart enough to know that many parts of the legislation are popular with both Democrait and Republican voters (Scott Brown is using it to insure his adult daughter) and they know that if they just repealing it without having something to replace it to keep the parts they like they know they will only be hurting their own party.    We all know that for Repubs it is "party before country" and they are not stupid enough (yes, I know hard to believe) to do something that would have immediate negative effects from their own constituents and thus themselves