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Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« on: July 05, 2012, 10:59:41 AM »




ORLANDO, Fla. — A Florida judge ruled Thursday that George Zimmerman can be released from jail a second time on $1 million bond, saying he set the bail amount significantly higher because Zimmerman may have been hiding money as part of a plot to flee the country.

Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester had revoked Zimmerman's $150,000 bond last month after prosecutors told the judge Zimmerman and his wife misled the court about how much money they had during an April bond hearing. Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

"It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people's money," Lester wrote.

Prosecutors said a website Zimmerman created for his legal defense had raised $135,000 at the time of his first bond hearing. Zimmerman and his wife did not mention the money then, and Shellie Zimmerman even said the couple had limited resources because she was a student and he wasn't working.

The judge made his decision after listening last week to Zimmerman's attorney and a forensic financial analyst explain why he wasn't more forthcoming.

The judge expressed his unhappiness with Zimmerman and said that his actions suggest a possibility that he was preparing to flee to avoid prosecution.

"Under any definition, the defendant has flaunted the system," Lester wrote in the order. "The defendant has tried to manipulate the system when he has been presented the opportunity to do so."

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2012, 01:56:27 PM »
I don't know what shows more stupidity.  Not disclosing the money or actually thinking you could flee somewhere with only 100K+.  At least for more than a year or two.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2012, 02:18:35 PM »
I don't know what shows more stupidity.  Not disclosing the money or actually thinking you could flee somewhere with only 100K+.  At least for more than a year or two.

it's a shame a hard working guy like him can't lie to the judge without fear of prosecution. 

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2012, 04:14:41 PM »
it's a shame a hard working guy like him can't lie to the judge without fear of prosecution. 

lol

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2012, 04:34:43 PM »
it's a shame a hard working guy like him can't lie to the judge without fear of prosecution. 

i thought most on this board were saying this guy is innocent ;D

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2012, 02:37:08 AM »
Well, what are the conditions, because 10% to a bondsman is 100k....

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2012, 05:03:39 AM »
i thought most on this board were saying this guy is innocent ;D

it was more of a 'taryvon is guilty' mindset.

they jumped the zimmerman ship very quickly once the facts showed he's a big liar.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2012, 05:04:13 AM »
Dudes a moron. Plain and simple.
That said, there isnt any evidence he was planning on fleeing. He could simply have been trying to horde the money for expenses that are going to be incurred during the trial.
Or, it could be an emergency "Oh shit im going to jail" fund for his wife.
Lots of possibilities.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2012, 05:43:59 AM »
Dudes a moron. Plain and simple.
That said, there isnt any evidence he was planning on fleeing. He could simply have been trying to horde the money for expenses that are going to be incurred during the trial.
Or, it could be an emergency "Oh shit im going to jail" fund for his wife.
Lots of possibilities.

didn't he also refuse to turn over a 2nd passport?
and he was recorded using code words to discuss the 135k he was hiding, immediately walking to the judge and saying he was penniless?

He's a shady fucker- and if hiding 135k and a passport isn't evidence he's a flight risk, I dont know what is lol.


Additionally - and unncessary - He did leave the state right before the arrest as well.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2012, 06:34:15 AM »
didn't he also refuse to turn over a 2nd passport?
and he was recorded using code words to discuss the 135k he was hiding, immediately walking to the judge and saying he was penniless?

He's a shady fucker- and if hiding 135k and a passport isn't evidence he's a flight risk, I dont know what is lol.


Additionally - and unncessary - He did leave the state right before the arrest as well.
Didnt say he wasnt a flight risk. Just that there is plenty of other reason he could be hiding the money.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2012, 08:14:58 AM »
didn't he also refuse to turn over a 2nd passport?
and he was recorded using code words to discuss the 135k he was hiding, immediately walking to the judge and saying he was penniless?

He's a shady fucker- and if hiding 135k and a passport isn't evidence he's a flight risk, I dont know what is lol.


Additionally - and unncessary - He did leave the state right before the arrest as well.

This dude has "schmuck" written all over him. 

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2012, 08:30:49 AM »
Dudes a moron. Plain and simple.
That said, there isnt any evidence he was planning on fleeing. He could simply have been trying to horde the money for expenses that are going to be incurred during the trial.
Or, it could be an emergency "Oh shit im going to jail" fund for his wife.
Lots of possibilities.

whatever his motivation he still intentionally hid it from the court and not revealing he had a 2nd passport lends credence that he was possibly making plans to flee or at least wanting to keep that as an option

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2012, 08:33:44 AM »
whatever his motivation he still intentionally hid it from the court and not revealing he had a 2nd passport lends credence that he was possibly making plans to flee or at least wanting to keep that as an option
As I said above, I do not disagree at all with the courts ruling on bail. Clearly he had the means to flee, and his lieing about the money definitely adds suspicions. I was commenting towards someone who claimed that this somehow meant we was going to run, when there could have been plenty of other reasons for him keeping the money secret.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2012, 09:07:59 AM »
As I said above, I do not disagree at all with the courts ruling on bail. Clearly he had the means to flee, and his lieing about the money definitely adds suspicions. I was commenting towards someone who claimed that this somehow meant we was going to run, when there could have been plenty of other reasons for him keeping the money secret.

he could have been hiding it so he could donate it all to charity

wouldn't make a bit of difference

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2012, 09:42:38 AM »
he could have been hiding it so he could donate it all to charity

wouldn't make a bit of difference
Yes, I know this, and I as said, I do not disagree with the courts ruling on his bail. I was merely pointing out that we have no idea what he was going to do with the money, contrary to the poster claiming that he must have been planning on running away.

I don't know why you're making me spell this out twice. The court did exactly what they should have done - make sure he stayed in Country for trial, as they have no idea what his real intentions were.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 10:09:59 AM »
why would he hide a 2nd passport?

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2012, 10:16:56 AM »
why would he hide a 2nd passport?
No clue. The court made the right decision with regards to the bail, but to pretend like we knew what he was planning to do is stupid.
Did he have the 2nd passport previously? When did he get it? Do you know? I dont.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2012, 10:26:00 AM »
Yes, I know this, and I as said, I do not disagree with the courts ruling on his bail. I was merely pointing out that we have no idea what he was going to do with the money, contrary to the poster claiming that he must have been planning on running away.

I don't know why you're making me spell this out twice. The court did exactly what they should have done - make sure he stayed in Country for trial, as they have no idea what his real intentions were.

I understand

I'm just saying its irrelevent

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2012, 10:32:30 AM »
I guess I can find a guy with 135k in hidden money and a passport and I don't "know" what his intentions are.

maybe if he had handwritten map of the boat route to cuba or mexico or even europe, we'd know for sure.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2012, 10:42:51 AM »
I guess I can find a guy with 135k in hidden money and a passport and I don't "know" what his intentions are.

maybe if he had handwritten map of the boat route to cuba or mexico or even europe, we'd know for sure.
Way to dodge the question.
When did he get the passport? How long did he have it? What was it? I cant imagine someone being able to get a 2nd passport when he's on trial for murder, can you?
BTW, 135k isnt going to get him very far.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2012, 11:00:11 AM »
Oh - the passport?   LMFAO -



During Friday's motion hearing, prosecutors said that Zimmerman also failed to disclose or turn over a second passport in his possession. According to the motion, Zimmerman acquired a second passport in 2004 after filing a claim with the State Department that his original passport was lost or stolen.

But, according to prosecutors, while Zimmerman was in custody at the Seminole County jail on April 17, he had a conversation with his wife in which the couple discussed the second passport. The conversation was recorded by jail officials:

Defendant: Do you know what? I think my passport is in that bag.
Shelly Zimmerman: I have one for you in safety deposit box...

Defendant: Ok, you hold on to that.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2012, 11:15:24 AM »
Oh - the passport?   LMFAO -



During Friday's motion hearing, prosecutors said that Zimmerman also failed to disclose or turn over a second passport in his possession. According to the motion, Zimmerman acquired a second passport in 2004 after filing a claim with the State Department that his original passport was lost or stolen.

But, according to prosecutors, while Zimmerman was in custody at the Seminole County jail on April 17, he had a conversation with his wife in which the couple discussed the second passport. The conversation was recorded by jail officials:

Defendant: Do you know what? I think my passport is in that bag.
Shelly Zimmerman: I have one for you in safety deposit box...

Defendant: Ok, you hold on to that.

Lol, and this proves what? That he aquired a 2nd passport in 2000-fucking-4, it was locked in a lockbox, and he told her to hang on to it? Yup, irrefutable proof there.
As I said, the court did the right thing erring on the side of caution. But for you to stand there and claim he was going to run because he still had a passport he aquired in 04 and 135k is retarded.

You need to stop assuming that you know what people are thinking because of your "BS" detector.
Everyone is capable of taking things that dont quite match up and call "BS", the only people that think theyre clairvoyant because of it are ignorant children.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2012, 11:46:10 AM »
Props to you 240, i think i remember you calling out Zimm from the beginning.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2012, 11:58:19 AM »
Props to you 240, i think i remember you calling out Zimm from the beginning.

the minute I heard his voice on the start of the 911 call - "He looks like he's on drugs OR SOMETHING" - My bullshit detector immeditaly told me this zimmerman cat was making it up on the spot.

Anyone who will 'wing it' on a 911 call - using the police as his own personal tool for shaking down people - I knew he was the type who would lie about ANYTHING.

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Re: Zimmerman bail set at 1 mil
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2012, 12:38:13 PM »
Zimmerman posted bail and has been released... :)
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