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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2012, 06:26:28 AM »
  gare, ever realize we are the last generation with any real movement or progression? really what has pop culture had since cobain??
You do realize that the whole alternative movement was nothing but trends created by what were modern studio techniques at the time. The heavy compression which was the sound of the 90's was better suited for slow tempo riff based music than it was pulsating rythms of the 80s.

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2012, 06:32:31 AM »
There are bands who will be remembered just as well ar Nirvana that are performing now.

That kind of fame takes retrospect, however.

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2012, 06:42:15 AM »


born in 84 8)

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2012, 07:47:52 AM »
You do realize that the whole alternative movement was nothing but trends created by what were modern studio techniques at the time. The heavy compression which was the sound of the 90's was better suited for slow tempo riff based music than it was pulsating rythms of the 80s.

wrong. "grunge" was the antithesis of the vapid "party party"  80's glam rock that was popular right before it hit. it put 1000 poofy- haired, lipstick wearing musicians  out of work. The bands were all about inner turmoil and alienation, and feeling disenfranchised. which apparently struck a chord with the majority of the youth at the time.

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I remember an interview with a few of rock's "old guard" and Jon Bon jovi was whining about these new bands who play "weird tunings" and sing "out of pitch", and Robert Plant was crying about it as well.

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2012, 08:18:07 AM »
wrong. "grunge" was the antithesis of the vapid "party party"  80's glam rock that was popular right before it hit. it put 1000 poofy- haired, lipstick wearing musicians  out of work. The bands were all about inner turmoil and alienation, and feeling disenfranchised. which apparently struck a chord with the majority of the youth at the time.

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got brutally pwned by this






I remember an interview with a few of rock's "old guard" and Jon Bon jovi was whining about these new bands who play "weird tunings" and sing "out of pitch", and Robert Plant was crying about it as well.
Lol

First off I said alternative not just grunge.

Second do you even know what audio compression means?

Third your citing what virtually every single record label on the planet was saying in 1992 hardly original.

The fact that you even mention the out of tune singing and strange tunnings of the these bands shows how little understanding you have of what I'm talking about.

To sound loud in the 80's, you needed loud vocals,(shout singing like in motley crue, or the siren singing like in maiden or van halen), for the guitars and drums, you needed high tempo with fast picking guitars, like def leopard, judas priest, van halen, even old metallica.

Than around 87, production tech changed rich bands like GnR s based on these simple riffs and singing, that sounded loud when overly compressed took over for a short time. Once these techs became more common the old 80's style started sounding dated from the get go. By 91 RHCP, The Black Album and Nirvana made the old shit sound dated.

Even metallica became simpler more riff based, with softer more raspier vocals, because surprise surprise thats what sounded good. Everyone acted as if it was some great social awakening or some bullshit reality was it was just a bunch of folk that didn't understand why there old music started sounding like shit all of a sudden.

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2012, 08:19:48 AM »
Spice Girls - Wannabe.

Was a smash hit when I was about 10

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2012, 08:25:59 AM »
Lol

First off I said alternative not just grunge.

Second do you even know what audio compression means?

Third your citing what virtually every single record label on the planet was saying in 1992 hardly original.

The fact that you even mention the out of tune singing and strange tunnings of the these bands shows how little understanding you have of what I'm talking about.

To sound loud in the 80's, you needed loud vocals,(shout singing like in motley crue, or the siren singing like in maiden or van halen), for the guitars and drums, you needed high tempo with fast picking guitars, like def leopard, judas priest, van halen, even old metallica.

Than around 87, production tech changed rich bands like GnR s based on these simple riffs and singing, that sounded loud when overly compressed took over for a short time. Once these techs became more common the old 80's style started sounding dated from the get go. By 91 RHCP, The Black Album and Nirvana made the old shit sound dated.

Even metallica became simpler more riff based, with softer more raspier vocals, because surprise surprise thats what sounded good. Everyone acted as if it was some great social awakening or some bullshit reality was it was just a bunch of folk that didn't understand why there old music started sounding like shit all of a sudden.

I wasn't trying to be original. i was speaking the truth

I've heard that bullshit argument before, and i know what compression is dickhead. it's true that studios were able to get a denser, thicker sound to guitars more EASILY in the late 80"s....but PLENTY of bands were getting that sound decades earlier. You've heard of Black Sabbath...right?

and Drop "d" tuning was a signature sound of grunge pioneered by KimThayil. i don't know if he invented it or anything, but he certainly used it to his advantage.

and now let's get into subject matter. "sound" aside...the reason alternative was ALTERNATIVE, is because it wasn't the same old shit on the radio, the bands talked about real issues and life, not fucking groupies

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2012, 08:27:32 AM »
I've heard that bullshit argument before, and i know what compression is dickhead. it's true that studios were able to get a denser, thicker sound to guitars more EASILY in the late 80"s....but PLENTY of bands were getting that sound decades earlier. You've heard of Black Sabbath...right?

Groink are you saying that mikmak though black sabbath, was dedicating a whole sunday to blowing negros?

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2012, 08:28:37 AM »
I've heard that bullshit argument before, and i know what compression is dickhead. it's true that studios were able to get a denser, thicker sound to guitars more EASILY in the late 80"s....but PLENTY of bands were getting that sound decades earlier. You've heard of Black Sabbath...right?

Groink are you saying that mikmak though black sabbath, was dedicating a whole sunday to blowing negros?

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2012, 08:32:50 AM »
Groink are you saying that mikmak though black sabbath, was dedicating a whole sunday to blowing negros?

LOL.. :D

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2012, 08:36:29 AM »
i'll be 29 in November.  What's my song?

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2012, 08:37:36 AM »
Groink are you saying that mikmak though black sabbath, was dedicating a whole sunday to blowing negros?
Groink are you saying that mikmak though black sabbath, was dedicating a whole sunday to blowing negros?


So good you had to say it twice ??? ;D

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2012, 08:54:11 AM »
I wasn't trying to be original. i was speaking the truth

I've heard that bullshit argument before, and i know what compression is dickhead. it's true that studios were able to get a denser, thicker sound to guitars more EASILY in the late 80"s....but PLENTY of bands were getting that sound decades earlier. You've heard of Black Sabbath...right?

and Drop "d" tuning was a signature sound of grunge pioneered by KimThayil. i don't know if he invented it or anything, but he certainly used it to his advantage.

and now let's get into subject matter. "sound" aside...the reason alternative was ALTERNATIVE, is because it wasn't the same old shit on the radio, the bands talked about real issues and life, not fucking groupies
So please explain to me the deep meaning behind Give it away, and what exactly kurt kobain was really trying to say ::)


And black sabbath were far from compressed, they were godfathers of both grunge and metal.

Sure other bands had compression even def leopard had a good bit of it, but these styles of music were not geared towards those technologies. There were other parts to it, but the all of a sudden feeling was a product of the technology.  

My point is these bands were not original, didn't even sound that much alike, but why they took over and became popular was simply the tech of the time.

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2012, 09:00:20 AM »
Calvin, it's just like your mother - that shit don't come around often, you gotta hit it again sometimes

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2012, 09:05:05 AM »
When I was 13, this change quite a bit of things:


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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2012, 09:31:15 AM »
have you guys seen LAST DAYS by Gus Van Sant? a funny yet tragic story based on the last days of kurt cobain.

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2012, 09:33:36 AM »
have you guys seen LAST DAYS by Gus Van Sant? a funny yet tragic story based on the last days of kurt cobain.

Seen it. Pretty difficult to watch, very slow, no dialogues. But a haunting movie if there ever was one.

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2012, 09:38:28 AM »
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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2012, 09:39:52 AM »
but that scene with the salesman coming over and hes running around the house in a dress with a rifle had me lmao.

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2012, 12:36:00 PM »
i'll be 29 in November.  What's my song?

i think that song "bodies" by drowning pool is appropriate

it came out around the time you became an adult, not to mention 9/11 happened along with the economy going to shit :)

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2012, 12:39:01 PM »
i think that song "bodies" by drowning pool is appropriate

it came out around the time you became an adult, not to mention 9/11 happened along with the economy going to shit :)

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Agreed. All the bickering aside, it's pretty well rounded, it covers the themes of the era at least somewhat, was popular in its time, and it dated enough to be for only one era.

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2012, 12:47:05 PM »
ONE- METALLICA including the video

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Re: What is the song of 'your generation'?
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2012, 12:54:03 PM »
ONE- METALLICA including the video
Your generation sucks so much that you don't even bother to post the vid ?   ::)