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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #75 on: July 14, 2012, 01:18:03 AM »
George Carlin was absolutely right about American politics.

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #76 on: July 14, 2012, 01:43:27 AM »
It was debunked already. Move on. This is why I asked if Benny was into self mutilation.
Oh, OK.

That makes sense.
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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #77 on: July 14, 2012, 04:54:17 AM »

The members of the cult of Obama could care less. 






Promised we'd be out of Iraq......Bad judgement and a lie.

Admitted he was a socialist piece of shit to a plumber while on camera....Bad judgement.

Promised that unemployment wouldn't rise above 8%......Bad Judgement and a lie.

Promised to close Gitmo within a year.....Bad Judgement and a lie.

Chose Biden to be his VP.....Bad Judgement.

Sat on his hands and did nothing while the guilf of mexico filled with oil....Bad judgement.

Accused an innocent WHITE cop without all the facts.....Bad judgement.

Promised shovel ready jobs and projects....Outright lie.

The stimulus.....Bad judgement filled with lies.

Claims to be a constitutiional lawyer, when it's obvious he doesn't understand the constitution....Bad judgement.

Appointed a racist communist to be his "green czar", and thought he could actually get away with it......Bad judgement.

Pledged his allegiance to ACORN.....Bad judgement.

Pledged his allegiance to SEIU....Bad Judgement.

Sat on his hands regarding the afghanistan troop surge, while our troops died in record numbers.....Bad Judgement to the core.

Ordered the firing of a USDA employee, again, without all the facts......Bad judgement.

Forced a fiasco of a healthcare bill down the throats of americans. The MAJORITY of whom opposed the fiasco......Seriously bad judgement.

Seriously thinks the next repub president won't shitcan said fiasco of a healthcare care bill come january of '13......Bad judgement.

Tried to deny he sat and listened to a racist preacher for twenty years. Tried to convince us that he and Wright aren't racist's......Outright lie and bad judgement.



Outright, documented, proven lies:


- Obama claims he was unaware of Pastor Wrights 911 comments: NYT proves he lied
- Obama claims his father was a goat-herd; actually he was a man of privilege
- Obama claims not an active muslim as child; Indonesian paper proves he lied
- Obama claims father linked to Kennedy’s; Washington Post proves he lied
- Obama claims he wrote the US Treasurer to try to prevent the housing crisis, he did but long after he voted to block McCain’s Bill which would have helped stop the problem
- Obama claims he has Foreign Experience because he lived in Indonesia, he was 6 YO
- Obama claimed his Indonesian School was Christian, it was not it was Muslim and records prove that, he studied the Koran
- Obama claims the way to keep Amrica energy independent is to inflate your tires
- Obama claims to have passed 26 Bill of his own making while in the Senate, he never did such a thing.
- Obama claims he is bipartisan; Congressional Quarterly shows he voted with his party 97% of the time
- Obama's dirty lie scares seniors: falsely claims McCain plans to cut $880 billion from Medicare: liar liar liar says Annenberg Factcheck
- Obama lies about his mother turning to food stamps AND still sending him to top schools; his grandmother paid for education
- Obama said his grandmother was a Christian, is that why she said Salat prayers? And told the NYT she was a strong Muslim
- Obama said he never practiced the Muslim faith, is that why hes was a registered Muslim till 31 YO and practiced the Muslim religion at a Muslim school and in hi you adulthood?
- Obama lied about being asked to wear dead soldier's bracelet: family had asked Obama to stop wearing it
- Obama claimed all new spending is economic plan was self-funding; short by $3.5 Trillion says nonpartisan Tax Policy Center
- Obama denied Admiral Mike Mullen had called Obama's Iraqi troop plan "dangerous"; Mullen made comment on Fox in July 2008 according to WaPo
- Obama lied about Kissinger's views of diplomacy during first debate; Kissinger confirms the lie
- Obama denied voting to tax some people making $42,000 a year: Annenburg Factcheck,org confirms Obama is lying
- After Debate 1, Team Obama denied Obama ever said, "Iran's not a threat": Video proves Obama DID say "Iran is NOT a threat."
- Obama claims under McCain employers would be taxed on the health care benefits it grants to workers; he's lying
- Obama refers to an Iraqi surplus of $79 billion and says US should have it; its $60 billion and dwindling
- Obama claims only 5% of Americans would see tax increase; he's grossly understating the number of people effected
- Obama accuses McCain of lying about Biden being against clean coal; video proves Obama is lying
- Obama claims McCain is opposed to abortion in cases of rape or incest; McCain has never held that position.
- Obama accuses McCain of making an ad about Obama's vote to approve leaving babies who survive abortion procedures to die; McCain did not make the ad
- Obama said he always supported medical care to protect infants; text of the Bill he supported shows he wanted babies born alive after abortions to be left to die
- Obama's ad on abortion uses quotes by journalists who made negative comments about a McCain ad; but Obama is misleading because both journalists have been proven to be incorrect
- Obama's lying when he says McCain's ad misstated BHO's Sex Ed for Kindergartners Bill: McCain's ad was accurate; here's the Sex Ed Bill text
- Obama and Biden both truncate McCain's comments on the strength of the economy's fundamentals: deliberate distortion
- Biden claims McCain tried to hurt our veterans by denying them educational benefits; NewsWeek confirms Biden is lying
- Obama claims under McCain, Elderly would have had Social Security tied up in the Stock market; Newsweek cries BS
- Obama claims his opponent will cut social security in half: NOT true; Obama guilty of scare-mongering aimed at Seniors
- Obama claimed during the primary he had more Ex President Clinton Foreign Policy advisers than Sen. Clinton; she had 70% more
- Obama claimed his father served in World War 2: his Kenyan-born father never served
- Obama grossly misquoted Sen.Clinton about her vote on a banking bill; BHO used the false quote to show why voters don't trust Government
- Obama claimed employers are more likely to be struck by lightning than be prosecuted for employing illegals; Gov stats prove he's lying
- Pushing his Green agenda Obama claimed Japanese Car average 45 mpg fuel efficiency; its actually around 29 mph
- Obama disparaged the President saying he hadn't met with auto makers until the sixth year of his presidency; GWB met automakers in April 2003
- Obama disparaged the efficiency of our healthcare system saying the U.S. spends twice per capita than other countries: WaPo proves he's lying
- Obama claims President Clinton's Labor Secretary said BHO's healthcare plan, "Does more than anybody to reduce costs"; Robert Reich did NOT say it
- Obama falsely claimed he won the Michigan Democrat primary: he was not on the ballot
- Obama's Spanish language ad lies about McCain's position on immigration; tries to stir race-war: lies debunked by ABC
- Obama lies about his interference in Iraqi negotiations; but his campaign admits his treachery
- Obama took credit for the economic stimulus package passed in Feb 08; BHO's colleagues on Capitol Hill cry BS
- Obama claims Big Oil is ignoring 68 million acres of oil fields they could be drilling; most fields are being worked
- Obama claims never questions his opponent's patriotism; asks of McCain "WHICH country first?": ABC says he's questioning McCain's patriotism
- Obama claims personal savings rates are lowest since the Great Depression; currently higher than under President Clinton
- Obama claims on this video that he doesn't switch positions; list of 31 flip flops show he's lying
- Obama puffed his resume claiming he was a "Professor"; State Senate bio shows he was not ; he now agrees
- Obam said an Ebony Magazine article inspired him to run for office, funny Ebony has yet to find the Article.
- When Obama ran for US Senate his web site claimed "5 years as a community organizer"; he admits it was only 3 years
- Obama's attack ad in Michigan claims McCain doesn't support loan guarantees for auto-industry. McCain DOES support them
- Obama says "if we're STILL in recession when he takes office...etc"; the economy is NOT in recession
- Obama claims he signed up for Selective Service when he graduated from High School; records show he did NOT until he'd been at college 1 year
- Attacking Palin, Obama has the audacity to claim,"Words mean something; you can't just make things up "; BHO makes stuff up
- Obama drew the Nation's attention to problems at Walter Reed Army Hospital; it was two WaPo reporters that reported the issues to the Nation
- Obama lies yet again to disparage Gov. Palin; ignores her executive experience as Governor of Alaska
- Obama says the US economy has failed under Bush; World Bank stats proves Obama's been lying; US a world leader in growth, employment, incomes
- Obama claims if you are born into poverty in America you are on your own: there are many government programs
- Obama claims he's bi-partisan: voting records prove Obama is #11 most partisan
- Claimed Hillary would be on anyone's short-list; Hillary wasn't on Obama's short-list
- Obama claims abortion rates have not gone down under the Bush Administration; stats show they have gone down
- Obama dismissed Bomber Bill Ayers as "some guy who lives in the neighborhood";they had a close working relationship
- Obama claims there's no charge to attend his acceptance speech: CBS 4 in Denver proves he's lying; some tickets cost $1000
- Obama used being a first-time-buyer to justify consulting with Rezko before he bought his house; BHO had already purchased a residence
- Obama lies about his support for infanticide; campaign concedes in 03 he opposed a bill stopping the killing of kids born alive after abortions
- Obama overstates Oil Industry's contributions to McCain; ignores cash the Oil industry gave BHO; Newsweek debunks
- Obama exaggerated the growth in Debt under the current Administration; debunked by WaPo
- Obama claims President George W Bush had not left the country before he became President; WaPo confirms he's lying
- To promote "green", Obama claimed he drove a vehicle that uses ethanol; GM confirmed the model was NOT ethanol-ready
- Obama claims he's taking his family for a week's rest in Hawaii with no campaigning; schedules a rally for first day
- : Obama claims "properly inflating tires" will save as much energy as we could drill offshore; analysis shows not even close
- Obama denies accusing McCain of using race against him; ABC, NYT confirm Obama did accuse McCain of making racial attacks
- Obama claims he's not being political when he's flip-flopping; timing & direction of major flip-flops show he's lying
- Obama INVENTS a wall between Christians and Jews; deceptively omits the major religious wall is caused by a "fatwah" to kill American Christians and Jews
- Obama claims he made a substantive call for Germany to help in Iraq; Berlin speech transcript proves he's lying
- Obama lied about his father's religious upbringing! half-brother confirms Obama's father was "RAISED Muslim"
- Obama claimed we only made one fundraising trip to Florida during the Primary; Florida papers proved he lied
- Obama claims reducing obesity to 80's levels would save Medicaid ONE TRILLION DOLLARS; not even close
- Obama claimed demands on Nat Guard personnel hurt flood relief; Guards prove lying
- Claimed due to overseas commitments, too few helecopters were available to help with Midwest flood relief; now concedes not true
- Obama claimed Clinton's healthcare plan would "punish families that couldn't afford healthcare"; NYT calls BS
- Obama claims McCain's tax plan will do nothing to help the middle-class: The Tax Policy Center proves he's lying
- Obama claims the use of an Email with a big red DONATE button is NOT a fundraising solicitation
- Obama claims his trip to Europe was non-political: uses video of Berlin speech to raise money within hours
- Obama tells NBC that during the debate on the Surge he said the Surge would work in Baghdad; video proves during the debate he said the opposite
- Obama's "Changing World" ad claims he'll fast-track alternatives to oil to stop us buying from hostile nations; "fast track" is totally misleading
- Obama tells Israeli media that he's a member of the Senate Banking Committee; CNN confirms he's delusional
- Obama claims Lou Dobbs caused hate crimes against Latinos to double; the FBI and CNN confirm Obama is lying
- Obama claims the military brass think like he does; top US commanders say his plan for Iraq is unworkable
- Obama promised to filibust FISA; later Obama voted for FISA and now denies changing his position
- Obama belittles Americans claiming we can't speak European languages; he's talking merde; mierda; Scheiße
- Obama denied he accused President Bush of starting the War for political reasons; Russert transcript proves Obama made that false claim
- Obama claims there has been substantial job losses from NAFTA; Independent studies show its at least" job neutral"
- Obama Claimed in Feb 08 he got 90% of funds from donors giving $25, $50; fed filings show he got only about a third from donors below $200
- Obama rewrites history about what specifically he had said during his October 2002 anti-war speech
- Obama claimed in 04 that he had never supported bringing troops out of Iraq; rare video of 03 Teamsters rally shows he's lying
- To justify move to private funds, Obama claims McCain's campaign is" fuelled" by PACs and Lobbyists; its less than 2% of McCain's money
- Obama's "Dignity" ad claims he "worked his way" thru college and law school; campaign admits only two summer jobs
- Obama's "Dignity" ad gives him credit for reducing Welfare rolls by 80%: he's deceptive as he was opposed to Fed Welfare Reform in '96
- In Obama's The Country I love ad, he takes credit for passing a healthcare bill he did NOT vote for
- Obama Claims he first ran in Chicago as an unendorsed candidate; his '96 election questionnaire proves he had several
- Obama claims he wants a vigorous and open debate on the issues: then goes out of his way to avoid it
- Obama omits key details about a false rumor re video of Michelle's "whitey" rant to justify breaking his public funding promise
- Obama tries to deceive about why he voted "present" more than 100 times in the Illinois Senate; Chicago paper reveals the truth
- Trying to claim patriotism Obama says his grandad signed up the day after Pearl Harbor; army records disagree
- Obama Claims race and party not important to how people vote as they put America first; 93% block vote disproves
- On June 5, Obama stated that Israel must remain undivided; June 6 on CNN he reversed his position, but denied he had done so
- To further his own agenda, Obama grossly overstates the number of potential African-American votes in MS, GA, SC
- Obama Promised of $2500 reduction in Healthcare premiums needs billions in Admin cost savings by 2012: not possible
- Obama omits to mention his 3 week trip to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan until it slips out trying to out-do Clinton
- Obama claims McCain wants to wage a lengthy war in Iraq: Video proves Obama's lying
- Obama claimed he never prayed in a mosque; his campaign had to retract that statement
- Obama dishonestly used endorsements in ads to pump up his healthcare plan
- Claims he never discussed politics with Pastor; rebutted by photo of Obama with team of lobbyists led by Wright
- Obama, an expert at parsing words, claimed he wasn't familiar with the word "Clintonian"; then changed his story
- Despite reeking of cigarettes, Obama denied smoking to ABC; now admits smoking on MSNBC
- Obama said he'd meet unconditionally with Leader of Iran: now claims he "didn't have Ahmadinejad in mind"
- Obama claims he is using public financing to avoid special interests: WSJ nails his switcheroo
- Obama's rhetoric claims more young black men in jail than college: BoJ Stats disprove
- Obama claims he never said he was a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare; Video proves he did
- Obama claims remarks to industrialists were greeted with silence, shows he can deliver tough message: video of ovation
- Obamas claim you dont rip opponents & leave on roadside:he did to Alice Palmer
- Obama denies saying Indiana could be tie-breaker: he did
- Obama omits that Pastor Wright led divestiture campaign from Israel
- Obama claims Church not controversial; he knew it was controversial since 86
- Lied about intention of taking US out of NAFTA
- Obamas claim poverty growing up: both distort reality
- Obama denies meeting Saddam's Auchi; sworn Fed. witness places Obama at undisclosed party for Auchi at Rezkos
- Obama lies about not attacking Clinton over her Bosnia lies
- Obama claims he passed ethics reform; ABC News shows he lied
- Obama says he's consistently opposed NAFTA; in October 2007 he supported expansion to Peru
- Obama claims he's above dirty political tricks; Clinton proves he lies
- Obama claims his "bitter" remarks were mangled; then repeats attacks on guns religion and angry people
- Obama claims never said he wouldn't wear US flag-pin; video shows he did
- Obama says he did no favors for Rezko;untrue; he lobbied for him
- Obama changes story repeatedly re Rezko's help in buying mansion
- Obama claims he never supported a ban on handguns; he has twice
- Obama claims stays at UCC as Pastor acknowledged comments were inappropriate; Wright never made this statement
- Obama campaign is beholden to "only the people" as unlike McCain/Clinton he does not take lobbyist /PAC money; LIES!
- Obama claims campaign never called Canada to say Obama not truthful re wanting leave NAFTA; smoking gun memo proves lied
- Obama claimed would not run for President, as he would not be qualified by 2008: confirmed 3 times to Tim Russert in one 2006 interview
- Obama claims famous in IL. for not letting lobbyists even buy him lunch; took from teachers, trial lawyers, hospital admins
- Obama claims he has no Lobbyists, he has more than 45
- Obama claims his parents met at 1965 Selma civil rights march; Washington Post noted it occurred 4 yrs after Obama's birth
- Obam claims courageously opposed war in 2002 during US Senate campaign; He did not announce his senate bid until 2003
- Obama claims he passes tough Nuclear Law; NYT uncovers he took Nuclear Industry pay-off and watered down the bill
- Obama claimed he didn't know Rezko was corrupt when did a real estate deal with him; Chicago papers prove he lied
- Obama laims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied
- Obana denies using his Hopefund PAC to influence endorsers; but the Washington Post reviewed the record and disagreed
- Obama claims his State Chair is not a drug company lobbyist; Time magazine cries Bull
- Obama lies about how much he received in campaign funds from Rezko; forced to significantly increase the amount twice
- Obama claims he did not fill out the 1996 candidate questionaire; Politico proves he lied
- Obama took credit for achievement of others in Chicago; resume puffing exposed by LA Times
- Obama claims he kept no State Senate records; now he changes his story
- Omaba denies doubling wife's salary was due to becoming US Senator; omits within months he earmarked $1 million for hospital
- Obama denied meeting Saddam bagman Auchi; now admits he was at his dinner but does not remember talking to him
- Obama denies using his church for politics: IRS disagree



so suddenly it matters again?  ::)

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #78 on: July 14, 2012, 05:08:10 AM »
The members of the cult of Obama could care less. 


S'up, PEA BRAIN!  ;D
About time you put down the gimmicks and posted here under your main account.  ::)

Do you have any plans for the weekend? Besides masturbating and posting on getbig 100+ times a day? Will you leave the apartment?

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« Reply #79 on: July 14, 2012, 06:11:43 AM »
Benny, why do you call him a PHONY Mormon?  If you answered last time I asked, I missed the answer.

Benny, what is it about the Mormon religion and his actions that make you say he is a Phony Mormon ???
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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #80 on: July 14, 2012, 08:54:42 AM »

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #81 on: July 14, 2012, 08:56:53 AM »
Just out of curiousity, who gets to assign the emoticons to threads?

Did a mod give this thread a thumbs down or does a user somehow do that? Does the OP do that?

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« Reply #82 on: July 14, 2012, 09:05:36 AM »
Benny, what is it about the Mormon religion and his actions that make you say he is a Phony Mormon ???
???
I don't understand the source of your confusion, Butterbean.

Do you need an explanation of what makes Willard a follower of the Mormon faith, or are you asking for clarification as to why he is a complete PHONY?  :-\
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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #83 on: July 14, 2012, 09:39:28 AM »
Just out of curiousity, who gets to assign the emoticons to threads?

Did a mod give this thread a thumbs down or does a user somehow do that? Does the OP do that?


The op picks it.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #84 on: July 14, 2012, 03:56:20 PM »
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I don't understand the source of your confusion, Butterbean.

Do you need an explanation of what makes Willard a follower of the Mormon faith, or are you asking for clarification as to why he is a complete PHONY?  :-\

Idiot...if you think he's a complete phony you could call him a"Mormon phony".  If you think he's a fake Mormon you would call him a "phony Mormon".  Is English your second language or are you a product of an urban US public school.

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #85 on: July 14, 2012, 04:11:58 PM »
Idiot...if you think he's a complete phony you could call him a"Mormon phony".  If you think he's a fake Mormon you would call him a "phony Mormon".  Is English your second language or are you a product of an urban US public school.
He's retarded.

And a limp wristed nancy boy.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #86 on: July 14, 2012, 04:32:00 PM »
???
I don't understand the source of your confusion, Butterbean.

Do you need an explanation of what makes Willard a follower of the Mormon faith, or are you asking for clarification as to why he is a complete PHONY?  :-\

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #87 on: July 14, 2012, 04:45:47 PM »

When is Willard going to release all of his tax returns?  ::)


As soon as Obama releases all the information on Operation Fast & Furious.....

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #88 on: July 14, 2012, 04:49:52 PM »
From the Washington Post Fact Checker:

"Why does it matter when Mitt Romney left Bain Capital?

Millions of dollars of attack ads by the Obama campaign are hanging in the balance. If Romney left Bain in February 1999, when he departed to run the Olympics, then a number of business deals that went sour (such as KB Toys) can’t be counted as part of Romney’s tenure. If he actually left in 2002, as the Obama campaign alleges, then those deals are fair game.

We have looked at this issue before, back in January, and thought we had settled it.

But now the Boston Globe has raised the issue again. The story seems to hinge on a quote from a former Securities and Exchange Commission member, which would have more credibility if the Globe had disclosed she was a regular contributor to Democrats. (Interestingly, “The Real Romney,” a book on the former Massachusetts governor, by Boston Globe reporters, states clearly that he left Bain when he went to run the Olympics and details the turmoil that ensued when he suddenly quit, nearly breaking up the partnership)

We’re considering whether to once again take a deeper look at this, though it really feels like Groundhog Day again. There appears to be some confusion about how partnerships are structured and managed, or what SEC documents mean. (Just because you are listed as an owner of shares does not mean you have a managerial role.)

To accept some of the claims, one would have to believe that Romney, with the advice of his lawyers, lied on government documents and committed a criminal offense. Moreover, you would have to assume he willingly gave up his share to a few years of retirement earnings — potentially worth millions of dollars — so he could say his retirement started in 1999.

UPDATE: Fortune obtained the offering documents for a Bain Capital Fund circulating in June 2000, as well as a fund in 2001. None of the documents show that Romney was listed as being among the “key investment professionals.” As Fortune put it, “the contemporaneous Bain documents show that Romney was indeed telling the truth about no longer having operational input at Bain -- which, one should note, is different from no longer having legal or financial ties to the firm.”

For interested readers, below is a summary of what we, FactCheck.org and Fortune magazine have previously concluded.


The Fact Checker, Jan. 18, 2012


A 2002 statement he filed with the Massachusetts State Ethics Commission on his financial interests lists ownership of various Bain entities, some of which appear to intersect with the funds that invested in KB Toys. The document says that Romney is “a passive, limited partner [with] no management capacity” in many of these funds.

In the Massachusetts document, Romney is also listed as 100 percent owner of “Bain Capital Inc.” But there is less than meets the eye here. Bain Capital Inc. was the management firm, which was paid a management fee to run the funds and actually made virtually no profit, since it existed to pay salaries and expenses. After Romney formally left Bain in 2001, a new entity called “Bain Capital LLC” took over the management function.

By virtually all accounts, Romney was focused on the Olympics in the 1999-2002 period. Yet because Romney had not legally separated from Bain, his name is littered across Securities and Exchange Commission filings concerning Bain Capital deals during this period. The crazy quilt of private-equity structures, in some ways, makes his ownership appear even more ominous, as the filings list hundreds of thousands of shares controlled by Romney.

Even so, it is a real stretch to claim that Romney — himself — “closed” these stores. No evidence has emerged that he was involved in the KB Toys transaction. Indeed, when creditors sued over the dividend payment, they named six Bain-controlled entities and three Bain executives who had served on the board of KB Holdings.

Given that the plaintiffs’ lawyers will try to list as many defendants as possible to try to force a settlement, one can be certain Romney would have been named if there had been any hint of his involvement. But he was not named, despite the SEC filings suggesting his control of the shares.

In other words, creditors apparently had determined Romney was only a passive investor.


FactCheck.Org, July 2, 2012

If the Obama campaign were correct, Romney would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999….

And after reviewing evidence cited by the Obama campaign, we reaffirm our conclusion that Romney left the helm of Bain Capital when he took a leave of absence in 1999 to run the Salt Lake City Organizing Committee for the 2002 Winter Olympics – as he has said repeatedly — and never returned to active management. The Obama campaign’s recent ads thus mislead when they point to investments made by Bain, as well as management decisions made by companies in which Bain invested, after that time.

What does the Obama campaign have in rebuttal? Very little, and none of it convincing in our judgment.

Much of the Obama campaign’s letter is devoted to quoting portions of documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In summary, the letter states there are “at least 63 filings with that agency after March 1, 1999 that list various Bain entities and describe them as ‘wholly owned by W. Mitt Romney.’” That’s true, but not relevant.

We have never disputed that Romney remained the owner of Bain while he was running the Olympics committee. The issue always has been, who was running Bain? Nothing in the SEC documents contradicts what Romney has certified as true.

On that point, the Obama campaign cites snippets of a few news clippings to make a case that Romney was still a part-time manager of Bain after he left to run the Olympics. But a close reading shows these news accounts don’t contradict Romney either.


Fortune Magazine, July 2, 2012


Remember, Romney did not leave Bain Capital as part of a long-term, planned succession process. Instead, his departure was fairly sudden — borne of a desire to help salvage an Olympic Games that was $1.4 billion in the hole and tarred by a massive bribery scandal. The very first reports of Romney being considered for the Salt Lake City job were on Feb. 2, 1999. Just nine days later, he officially took over.

Not surprisingly, Bain Capital hadn’t worked out all the details of Romney’s departure. It eventually would discard the CEO position in favor of a horizontal management committee made up of numerous partners, and provide Romney with a golden parachute that included limited partnership interests in all Bain-related funds raised through 2009 (including the option for Romney to invest additional monies). But none of that was in place when Romney took the Salt Lake City job.

Moreover, unwinding a private equity firm’s ownership structure is extremely complicated. The “firm” itself is largely a legal construct of convenience, since it doesn’t pay salaries, make investments or do much of anything else. Instead, what matters are the individual funds.

In the case of Bain Capital’s funds, it’s reasonable to assume that Romney was considered a “key man,” meaning that each fund’s limited partners could have voted to end the fund’s investment period — or take over fund management themselves — if a super-majority felt it prudent. But that didn’t happen, and Bain saw no reason to expend massive administrative effort to amend existing funds. Instead, it asked Romney to sign documents when necessary, and made the managerial/ownership changes on new funds going forward….

The part about lying to the SEC is absurd, since the SEC doesn’t require an owner to be the operational decision-maker (Romney delegated such responsibilities, as is his right)."

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #89 on: July 14, 2012, 07:57:15 PM »
Willard's secrecy and deliberate obfuscation will have him all but "officially toast" by Labor day.
Stating that "Obama lies too!" may work on getdumb, however, it is not working elsewhere, simpletons. ::) That only works on drooling repube FOX Joke Channel viewers who will be crying into their beers come November.
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GOP governor calls on Romney to release more tax returns

ABC News' Michael Falcone and Arlette Saenz report:

WILLIAMSBURG, Va. - Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley, in an interview with ABC News today, called on presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney to release his tax returns in order to show voters that he has "nothing to hide."

Bentley said that Romney's refusal to release more returns has created a "distraction" that Democrats were successfully exploiting.

"I just believe in total transparency," Bentley told ABC News at the National Governors Association conference. "In fact, I was asked today that question - do you think that Governor Romney should release his tax returns? And I said I do. I said, I release my tax returns. I may be the only public official in Alabama that does, but I release mine every year and I just believe that people should release their tax returns. And if you get them out and just get past that, it just makes it so much easier."


Bentley, who took office in 2001, warned that failure to do so would continue to open the door for the Obama campaign and their Democratic allies to "cause distractions away from the real issue in this campaign and that's the economy."

Earlier this year, Romney released his 2010 tax documents and his estimated returns for 2011, but so far he has declined to offer disclosures for additional years and has indicated he is unlikely to do so. Democrats have pounced on Romney for what they see as a lack of transparency.

"They're doing everything they can to hurt Governor Romney and tax returns will be one of those things," Bentley said. "So the best thing to do is just get everything out in the open and just say, 'hey I have nothing to hide and I'm going to release my tax returns.'"

The Republican governor, who voted for Rick Santorum over Romney in his state's presidential primary, added: "I think that it's always easier just to say, hey I'm releasing everything, and just get it out there and then get past it."

That strategy, Bentley said, would allow the former Massachusetts governor to " start talking about the issues that I think that the people of America really are concerned about and that's our economy and jobs and 8.4 percent unemployment rate and a $16 trillion debt."

Responding to the Alabama governor's comments, Obama campaign spokeswoman Elisabeth Smith said: "We agree with Governor Bentley - Mitt Romney should exhibit total transparency and release his tax returns."

Smith added, "That's the only way the American people will learn about his motivations on critical policy matters and whether he invested in foreign tax havens and offshore accounts to avoid paying U.S. taxes or hedge against the dollar."




Stating that "Obama lies too!" is not working, simpletons. ::) That only works on drooling repube FOX Joke Channel viewers who will be crying into their beers come November. :'(

D'oh!   :D
Obama leads 333-205 in most recent Electoral College map projection with polls

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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #90 on: July 15, 2012, 11:54:30 AM »
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I don't understand the source of your confusion, Butterbean.

Do you need an explanation of what makes Willard a follower of the Mormon faith, or are you asking for clarification as to why he is a complete PHONY?  :-\

I'm asking what makes you think he is a "Phony Mormon"...as flipper said, that indicates you think he is a "fake" Mormon, or a Mormon "imposter" type.  There must be some type of hypocrisy you see regarding his actions and his religion and that is why you call him a phony Mormon?

But maybe you are just saying he is a "complete PHONY" in his entire personna (as above) but just happened to put Mormon in that description?
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Re: That's a LIE!
« Reply #91 on: July 15, 2012, 02:44:43 PM »
Obama is the biggest fraud of all...not only is he lying his ass off now, but his conduct in the campaign thus far shows that his persona from 2008...the post partisan, agent of change...was a complete lie as well.

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« Reply #92 on: July 15, 2012, 03:13:57 PM »
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Benny - has obama ever told a lie?