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McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« on: July 17, 2012, 03:40:29 PM »
Much ado about nothing. 

McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
by John Brandt | July 17, 2012

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., whose 2008 presidential campaign team reviewed years worth of tax returns from 2012 standard bearer Mitt Romney, says there is nothing disqualifying in the former Massachusetts governor's paperwork.

"And to somehow allege that there was something wrong with his tax returns with no factual evidence with no basis whatsoever is the kind of Chicago sleaze-style campaign that's being run by the Obama campaign," McCain told reporters. The Arizona senator added that he personally vouches for the fact that there was nothing in the returns that would be disqualifying -- the returns were reviewed as part of the 2008 vice presidential nominee selection process.

McCain was responding Tuesday to reports quoting him as saying Sarah Palin, his eventual 2008 running mate, was the "better candidate." McCain says his answer was taken out of context.

"(Palin) was the best fit for our campaign," McCain said, "but we've taken an answer on why I selected her and not Romney and twisted it into some interpretation that is obviously not the case."

He also rejected calls from the Obama administration and others that are demanding Romney release more tax data. McCain said the tax issue comes up with every presidential candidate and Romney shouldn't "do something that no one else has ever done."

McCain was once caught off-guard by a question about how many homes he and his wife Cindy owned. Opponents later used that answer to portray the Arizona senator as out of touch with the problems of average Americans.
 
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/07/17/mccain-nothing-disqualifying-romney-s-tax-returns

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 03:57:35 PM »
That's like hilary clearing Obama on the birth cert issue.

Of course that is what is going to be said.  Without a doubt. 

lol at anyone taking mccain at his word on this one.

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 04:41:20 PM »
Much ado about nothing. 

McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
by John Brandt | July 17, 2012

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., whose 2008 presidential campaign team reviewed years worth of tax returns from 2012 standard bearer Mitt Romney, says there is nothing disqualifying in the former Massachusetts governor's paperwork.

"And to somehow allege that there was something wrong with his tax returns with no factual evidence with no basis whatsoever is the kind of Chicago sleaze-style campaign that's being run by the Obama campaign," McCain told reporters. The Arizona senator added that he personally vouches for the fact that there was nothing in the returns that would be disqualifying -- the returns were reviewed as part of the 2008 vice presidential nominee selection process.

McCain was responding Tuesday to reports quoting him as saying Sarah Palin, his eventual 2008 running mate, was the "better candidate." McCain says his answer was taken out of context.

"(Palin) was the best fit for our campaign," McCain said, "but we've taken an answer on why I selected her and not Romney and twisted it into some interpretation that is obviously not the case."

He also rejected calls from the Obama administration and others that are demanding Romney release more tax data. McCain said the tax issue comes up with every presidential candidate and Romney shouldn't "do something that no one else has ever done."

McCain was once caught off-guard by a question about how many homes he and his wife Cindy owned. Opponents later used that answer to portray the Arizona senator as out of touch with the problems of average Americans.
 
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/07/17/mccain-nothing-disqualifying-romney-s-tax-returns


Doesn't matter....the majority of the public wants to know Romney's tax records and his involvement with Bain....if he doesn't hand it over, then he's toast at the election.
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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 04:47:00 PM »
FACT: In 2004, after John Kerry released 20 years of tax returns, a top Romney aide demanded more
Posted on July 17, 2012
His standards have dropped just a little since then.

“Throughout history, presidential candidates have disclosed income tax information prior to Election Day. We believe Americans value disclosure and transparency in campaigns.” – Senior Mitt Romney adviser Ed Gillespie, quoted in a 2004 RNC press release, urging Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) to release more tax information

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/17/530951/top-romney-spokesperson-urged-kerrys-presidential-campaign-to-release-more-tax-returns-in-2004/
http://underthemountainbunker.com/2012/07/17/fact-in-2004-after-john-kerry-released-20-years-of-tax-returns-a-top-romney-aide-demanded-more/

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 05:01:49 PM »

Doesn't matter....the majority of the public wants to know Romney's tax records and his involvement with Bain....if he doesn't hand it over, then he's toast at the election.

Really?  You've seen polls saying this?  I think any poll that matters would have to sample independents.  Republican voters don't care, because they're going to vote for Romney anyway.  Democrats don't care, because they're going to vote for Obama anyway.

Absoutely no way he loses the election if he doesn't get involved in this non-issue.  You're crazy if you believe this stuff will trump the steady stream of bad economic news, Obama's terrible record, debate performances, fundraising, etc. 

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 05:14:23 PM »
I saw today Bush released 9 years of record.  Dole released 20 years' worth. 

Turns outT Paw saying "1-2 years is very normal for candidates" is incorrect.

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 05:24:33 PM »
I saw today Bush released 9 years of record.  Dole released 20 years' worth. 

Turns outT Paw saying "1-2 years is very normal for candidates" is incorrect.

Wrong and out-of-context, again.  Bush released returns from 2000 on.  He was elected in 2000.  Pawlenty is right.  The norm is for those who have actually been elected president is to release a year or two preceding their run, then every year while in office.  http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns/

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2012, 05:30:51 PM »
Really?  You've seen polls saying this?  I think any poll that matters would have to sample independents.  Republican voters don't care, because they're going to vote for Romney anyway.  Democrats don't care, because they're going to vote for Obama anyway.

Absoutely no way he loses the election if he doesn't get involved in this non-issue.  You're crazy if you believe this stuff will trump the steady stream of bad economic news, Obama's terrible record, debate performances, fundraising, etc. 


I believe it does and even GOP officials and governers are demanding him to do so.  Obama just released a new ad which uses Sarah Palin's words from 2008  regarding Romney's money......


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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 05:37:02 PM »
Wrong and out-of-context, again.  Bush released returns from 2000 on.  He was elected in 2000.  Pawlenty is right.  The norm is for those who have actually been elected president is to release a year or two preceding their run, then every year while in office.  http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns/

Sorry man, but you're wrong here.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/264194/36/Outrage-over-tax-returns-a-replay-of-past-campaigns

Dole upped the ante and released 21 years of returns.

. John Kerry released 20 years of tax returns,

George W. Bush released his tax returns dating back to 1991.

Al Gore released his taxes for 1992-2000.

Bill Clinton released his tax returns for the years between 1980 and 1991.


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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 05:37:16 PM »

I believe it does and even GOP officials and governers are demanding him to do so.  Obama just released a new ad which uses Sarah Palin's words from 2008  regarding Romney's money......



Where are you getting that a majority of the public wants to see this?  

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 05:52:59 PM »
Sorry man, but you're wrong here.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/264194/36/Outrage-over-tax-returns-a-replay-of-past-campaigns

Dole upped the ante and released 21 years of returns.

. John Kerry released 20 years of tax returns,

George W. Bush released his tax returns dating back to 1991.

Al Gore released his taxes for 1992-2000.

Bill Clinton released his tax returns for the years between 1980 and 1991.



I've looked at both links.  The link I posted appears to only track what presidents released after they were elected.  So part of your comments are correct and part of mine are incorrect. 

Regarding whether there is some trend, you're wrong.  The wealthier the candidate, the less he released, which is true of Perot, MCain, Kerry's wife, and Reagan.  There is no consistency overall.  Some released a lot, some very little.   

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 06:22:49 PM »
FACT: In 2004, after John Kerry released 20 years of tax returns, a top Romney aide demanded more
Posted on July 17, 2012
His standards have dropped just a little since then.

“Throughout history, presidential candidates have disclosed income tax information prior to Election Day. We believe Americans value disclosure and transparency in campaigns.” – Senior Mitt Romney adviser Ed Gillespie, quoted in a 2004 RNC press release, urging Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) to release more tax information

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/17/530951/top-romney-spokesperson-urged-kerrys-presidential-campaign-to-release-more-tax-returns-in-2004/
http://underthemountainbunker.com/2012/07/17/fact-in-2004-after-john-kerry-released-20-years-of-tax-returns-a-top-romney-aide-demanded-more/

I hope Obama gets that in a commercial soon

I saw Gillesie on Meet the Press this weekend defending Romney for only releasing 2 years

They should do one where Romeny explains all his money is in a blind trust and then show the clip from the early 90's where is says a blind trust is just a ruse (referreing at that time to Ted Kennedy)

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2012, 07:18:08 PM »
with SO MANY repubs capitulating to Obama's weak ass demands so quickly (agreeing romney should release them...)

I believe they think Obama has them, or knows what is in them.  People cheat in election (commit crimes) all the time - Does anyone here really doubt his 'team' would use their power to examine romney's records for past years, realize something big was in there, and leak them without consequence in October?

These top republicans calling for him to release them - THey aren't stupid, and they do hate obama.  They'd rather take the hit BEFORE the convention, so if there's something so bad in there that he can't win - they can replace him.

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2012, 07:22:16 PM »
you dont think that if there was anything there that the IRS would have already addressed it?

LOL at 240 zimmerman, guilty until proven innocent...

romney, guilty until proven innocent...

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 07:38:58 PM »
you dont think that if there was anything there that the IRS would have already addressed it?

LOL at 240 zimmerman, guilty until proven innocent...

romney, guilty until proven innocent...


Bingo.    Romney would have been audited if he filed fraudulent returns.

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2012, 07:40:40 PM »
you dont think that if there was anything there that the IRS would have already addressed it?
LOL at 240 zimmerman, guilty until proven innocent...
romne, guilty until proven innocent...

I never said romney did ANYTHING illegal.  I believe he's VERY MUCH by the book, tony.  

What I believe is that he has something in there which is so politically damning, so alienating to voters, that he won't win the election.

Maybe there was 1 or 3 or 5 years he paid no taxes.  Maybe he invested in some very unpopular companies tied to this or that.  I don't know.  

But I just CANNOT figure out why SO MANY republicans are falling for this obama demand that he release the records.  Ron Paul and brit Hume joined the chorus tonight.  I mean, WTF?  It's just obama whining - what in the world are they all caving for?   My THEORY is that there is something not illegal - but embarassing and which will turn off voters in a big way - and the party woudl rather have it come out now, not later.

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2012, 07:41:21 PM »

Bingo.    Romney would have been audited if he filed fraudulent returns.

Never in a million years do i think romney would break the law.  I think it's just embarassing stuff. 

33, in your opinion, IF it came out romney paid no taxes for 10 straight years - do you still think he could win the election?

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2012, 07:44:12 PM »
Never in a million years do i think romney would break the law.  I think it's just embarassing stuff. 

33, in your opinion, IF it came out romney paid no taxes for 10 straight years - do you still think he could win the election?

Yes.   5 more months of terrible jobs data and as Bill Gross of Pimpco said today - we are either in a recession or going into another one. 


at that point Bama is done.

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2012, 07:48:09 PM »
Yes.   5 more months of terrible jobs data and as Bill Gross of Pimpco said today - we are either in a recession or going into another one. 
at that point Bama is done.

ok.  that is your belief.  My belief is that somethign like "10 years without paying a cent" would result in a certain romney loss.

Surely that's not his record - BUT - if it is, he'd be incredibly selfish to continue running with that ticking time bomb out there.  Everything leaks, and if you don't think the POTUS can leak something, you're crazy.  if he wants it out, it'll come out.

33, I gotta ask - WHy in the world as SO MANY top republicans all coming out in agreement with obama here?  They should be telling him to shove that request up his ass - obama of all people asking for transparency in records?  lmao.   


WHY are the party elders calling romnney out for those records?  I am suspicious, man.  I dont believe they're on obama's nutsack. 

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2012, 07:49:44 PM »

Because they don't want this being in the news cycle grinder as opposed to obamas terrible record of failure fiasco depression collapse inflation debt corruption fraud and incompetence.



ok.  that is your belief.  My belief is that somethign like "10 years without paying a cent" would result in a certain romney loss.

Surely that's not his record - BUT - if it is, he'd be incredibly selfish to continue running with that ticking time bomb out there.  Everything leaks, and if you don't think the POTUS can leak something, you're crazy.  if he wants it out, it'll come out.

33, I gotta ask - WHy in the world as SO MANY top republicans all coming out in agreement with obama here?  They should be telling him to shove that request up his ass - obama of all people asking for transparency in records?  lmao.   


WHY are the party elders calling romnney out for those records?  I am suspicious, man.  I dont believe they're on obama's nutsack. 

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Re: McCain: Nothing disqualifying in Romney’s tax returns
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2012, 07:55:19 PM »
Because they don't want this being in the news cycle grinder as opposed to obamas terrible record of failure fiasco depression collapse inflation debt corruption fraud and incompetence.

Maybe.  In that case, they're cowering to the media.  And they are the media.  I don't know dude.  I guess I just believe obama has at the very least 'peaked' at the recrds and knows they'll be damaging.  I know, just CT, lol, he woudln't do that hahaha....


My guess is that he didn't pay taxes a few years, invested in some companies that did morally bankrupt things, perhaps had relations with firms that ended up being tied to shady ppl/countries, etc.  making tens of millions a year = a lot of exposure to crap like that.


I guess we'll see whose prediction is right, 33.