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Re: LUNATIC OPENS FIRE AT BATMAN PREMIER IN DENVER
« Reply #1000 on: July 28, 2012, 12:24:45 AM »
Shut the fuck up you worthless f.aggot. What the hell do you know about guns? Drugs are illegal right? Does that stop millions of people from being junkies? Does it stop people from buying and selling dope? Stricter gun laws only effect the responsible citizens. In New York State you have to go through a million hoops to get a handgun permit. You think bad guys are going to go through all of that trouble to procure a hand gun? No dummy criminals don't follow the rules. My dads a legit buisness owner, he wanted to get a handgun to protect his buisness. He gave up after he realized all of the bullshit inconvience you have to go through just to get one.


Just because one lunatic out of millions of responsible gun owners blows a fuse doesn't mean everyone else should be punished. Look how many people get killed by ciggerettes, drunk drivers, car accidents, etc etc. Do we outlaw those things? No we make the penalties more severe.
your right. all weapons should be legal for everyone to buy. if everyone has a gun, there ought to be way less gun violence. makes sense  ;D nuclear weapons ought to be legal as well. if every country on the planet could have one, if every house hold had a nuke in the back yard ready to fire off at a seconds notice.. the world would be MUCH safer  ;D

I pulled this from Wiki but it's everwhere else...I hope you're intelligent enough to draw conclusions...
You're an idiologue...that doesn't work here....




In 1982 the city passed an ordinance [Sec 34-21][18]
 

(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.
 (b)Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.
 
Gun rights activist David Kopel has claimed that there is evidence that this gun law has reduced the incident rate of home burglaries citing that in the first year, home burglaries dropped from 65 before the ordinance, down to 26 in 1983, and to 11 in 1984.[19] Another report observed a noticeable reduction in burglary from 1981, the year before the ordinance was passed, to 1999.[20]
 
Later research claims that there is no evidence that [the law] reduced the rate of home burglaries [in Kennesaw][21][22], even though the overall crime rate had decreased by more than 50% between 1982 and 2005.[23]
 
The city's website[24] claims the city has the lowest crime rate in the county.

LOL a gun rights activist calling me an ideologue  ;D


As usual YOU are wrong and can't grasp the subject. NO the solution isn't more guns it's don't prohibit LEGAL LAW ABIDING citizens rights to guns because of some mental case

More laws isn't the solution to the problem when criminals don't follow them. the laws are affecting the wrong people


did anyone say anything about preventing "law abiding citizens" from owning a firearm? (what does law abiding mean anyways? does someone with a speeding ticket get prohibited from buying a gun? how about a child molestor? a person who used a knife in an attack? what about an ex soldier who killed hundreds of people on the battle field but never broke a law in his life?)

because criminals wont follow a law the law shouldnt be in place ? people still commit murder despite it being illegal, so murder should be legal to prevent murder from happening? that way if someones about to murder someone else they will be dettered from doing so knowing that they may be murdered for having murderous intent?

 ;D

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as if James Holmes wont go down in infamy as a Real Life Comic book Villain


Hope he wrote and left behind a ted kaczynski type manifesto before he hangs

You can disagree with me but I am against putting Kaczynski in the same category as filt like Holmes. Ted at least was brilliant and some rhyme and reason to his killing regardless of how wrong it was and how much I disagree with his bombings. Just my .02.

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Re: LUNATIC OPENS FIRE AT BATMAN PREMIER IN DENVER
« Reply #1002 on: July 28, 2012, 01:27:42 AM »
your right. all weapons should be legal for everyone to buy. if everyone has a gun, there ought to be way less gun violence. makes sense  ;D nuclear weapons ought to be legal as well. if every country on the planet could have one, if every house hold had a nuke in the back yard ready to fire off at a seconds notice.. the world would be MUCH safer  ;D
 LOL a gun rights activist calling me an ideologue  ;D

 did anyone say anything about preventing "law abiding citizens" from owning a firearm? (what does law abiding mean anyways? does someone with a speeding ticket get prohibited from buying a gun? how about a child molestor? a person who used a knife in an attack? what about an ex soldier who killed hundreds of people on the battle field but never broke a law in his life?)

because criminals wont follow a law the law shouldnt be in place ? people still commit murder despite it being illegal, so murder should be legal to prevent murder from happening? that way if someones about to murder someone else they will be dettered from doing so knowing that they may be murdered for having murderous intent?

 ;D

Every single person starts out as a law abiding citizen

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Re: LUNATIC OPENS FIRE AT BATMAN PREMIER IN DENVER
« Reply #1003 on: July 28, 2012, 04:58:08 AM »


 did anyone say anything about preventing "law abiding citizens" from owning a firearm? (what does law abiding mean anyways? does someone with a speeding ticket get prohibited from buying a gun? how about a child molestor? a person who used a knife in an attack? what about an ex soldier who killed hundreds of people on the battle field but never broke a law in his life?)

because criminals wont follow a law the law shouldnt be in place ? people still commit murder despite it being illegal, so murder should be legal to prevent murder from happening? that way if someones about to murder someone else they will be dettered from doing so knowing that they may be murdered for having murderous intent?

 ;D


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did anyone say anything about preventing "law abiding citizens" from owning a firearm? (what does law abiding mean anyways? does someone with a speeding ticket get prohibited from buying a gun? how about a child molestor? a person who used a knife in an attack? what about an ex soldier who killed hundreds of people on the battle field but never broke a law in his life?)

Actually yea, people since the shooting have been screaming for more gun control and banning certain types of firearms.

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because criminals wont follow a law the law shouldnt be in place ? people still commit murder despite it being illegal, so murder should be legal to prevent murder from happening? that way if someones about to murder someone else they will be dettered from doing so knowing that they may be murdered for having murderous intent?

As usual you don't get it.  :-\ Who said there shouldn't be laws in place?  ??? There are roughly 20,000 gun laws already on the books we don't need any new laws that A) only punish people who follow the laws and B) that criminals aren't going to follow

Tragedies like this evoke a lot of emotion in people with good reason but it's misdirected. People realize they are helpless because they have no control over the lunatics who commit these crimes so they look at the the objects he used and then focus their attention on them

Would any new laws have prevented this? NO he actually attained all of his weapons legally. He passed the background checks , had no criminal record. You can't guess who is mentally ill and when they will go off

Would a reinstatement of the failed ' Assault weapons ban ' have prevented this? NO because there never was a ban on these weapons , only on certain cosmetic features like a retractable butt-stock , a flash suppressor and a bayonet lug as well as magazines that held more than 10 rounds at a time.

None of the banned features would have prevented this because one you could always buy a ' preban ' rifle and ' preban ' 30 or even 100 round magazines. Seeing the AR15 platform was developed in the late 1950s there are MILLIONS of these 30 round magazines floating around all made before the ' ban ' in 1994 which ended in 2004 when they resumed making brand new 30 round magazines. The 100 round magazines to my knowledge they didn't make in the millions , the military tested and found they weren't very reliable and to heavy for use so scrapped them. but they can be had ' preban '

Nothing would have prevented this lunatic from doing what he intended. People just can't accept that and think by passing these ' feel good ' measures that this will in the future some how prevent people from being able to carry out these acts. NOT going to happen. If every gun in the United States magically disappeared we would be reading about a lunatic that went into a movie theater with a sword and killed 12 people , or a flame thrower or whatever other means was available

You can't legislate sanity to the insane.

 

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Re: Lunatic kills 12 at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Colorado
« Reply #1004 on: July 28, 2012, 04:32:14 PM »
Colorado is cursed, many killings yearly large scale.