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« Reply #850 on: July 24, 2012, 10:45:42 AM »
Guns aren't the problem gaycock. people are.  You dipshit libs wanna ban everything till were left with our thumbs up our asses. 
why dont you go ahead and make nuclear weapons legal why your at it.  by the way liberals only want to ban things that can effect the community, not things that effect individuals. conservatives like to ban things that effect individuals, but allow things that effect the community. which one makes more sense.. allowing people to fuck up their own lives but preventing them from destorying others, or allowing people to fuck up other peoples lives but preventing them from fucking up their own ??     ;)

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« Reply #851 on: July 24, 2012, 10:50:30 AM »
Why not sue the company that sold Holmes the red dye for his hair while he is at it? 
Dude is going to sue Warner Bros for a violent movie THAT HE WAS GOING TO SEE.
So, why not sue DC for making a violent comic (that has been violent since it's inception), and letting it be adapted to the bg screen? Oh, so Warner Bros should have made it like the Teletubbies? Therefore dude wouldn't have gone to it in the first place.

This speaks to something deeper, Americans like to live in a fantasy world where they go see "fake" violence on the movie screen, watch it on TV and play video games...and talk about how "hardcore" it is. But as soon as the real life violence reaches their doorsteps, they want to sue.

Sue the doctors, for this eff up's actions? Nope, you can't monitor what the patient will take, or if he is taking his meds, at any given moment a person could decide not to take their meds or take one too many.

They only thing I agree with the lawsuit, is that the emergency door should have had an alarm

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« Reply #852 on: July 24, 2012, 10:51:18 AM »
why dont you go ahead and make nuclear weapons legal why your at it.  by the way liberals only want to ban things that can effect the community, not things that effect individuals. conservatives like to ban things that effect individuals, but allow things that effect the community. which one makes more sense.. allowing people to fuck up their own lives but preventing them from destorying others, or allowing people to fuck up other peoples lives but preventing them from fucking up their own ??     ;)

I pulled this from Wiki but it's everwhere else...I hope you're intelligent enough to draw conclusions...
You're an idiologue...that doesn't work here....




In 1982 the city passed an ordinance [Sec 34-21][18]
 

(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.
 (b)Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.
 
Gun rights activist David Kopel has claimed that there is evidence that this gun law has reduced the incident rate of home burglaries citing that in the first year, home burglaries dropped from 65 before the ordinance, down to 26 in 1983, and to 11 in 1984.[19] Another report observed a noticeable reduction in burglary from 1981, the year before the ordinance was passed, to 1999.[20]
 
Later research claims that there is no evidence that [the law] reduced the rate of home burglaries [in Kennesaw][21][22], even though the overall crime rate had decreased by more than 50% between 1982 and 2005.[23]
 
The city's website[24] claims the city has the lowest crime rate in the county.
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« Reply #853 on: July 24, 2012, 10:53:29 AM »
in both cases, conservative fuck jobs think that the answer to the problem is the cause of the problem. yes, they are very much related.

Shut the fuck up you worthless f.aggot. What the hell do you know about guns? Drugs are illegal right? Does that stop millions of people from being junkies? Does it stop people from buying and selling dope? Stricter gun laws only effect the responsible citizens. In New York State you have to go through a million hoops to get a handgun permit. You think bad guys are going to go through all of that trouble to procure a hand gun? No dummy criminals don't follow the rules. My dads a legit buisness owner, he wanted to get a handgun to protect his buisness. He gave up after he realized all of the bullshit inconvience you have to go through just to get one.


Just because one lunatic out of millions of responsible gun owners blows a fuse doesn't mean everyone else should be punished. Look how many people get killed by ciggerettes, drunk drivers, car accidents, etc etc. Do we outlaw those things? No we make the penalties more severe.

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« Reply #854 on: July 24, 2012, 10:55:16 AM »
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/213977/158/James-Holmes-of-Aurora-Colorado-Received-26000-Stipend-Plus-Tuition-From-NIH



AURORA, COLORADO (WUSA)-- Aurora, Colorado is a community that's just beginning to absorb the magnitude of what happened there. The shock seems to be wearing off and raw grief, taking over.
 
But there is a welcome sign of hope amidst the overwhelming grief. The mother of the 6 year-old girl killed in the massacre is reportedly pregnant. Despite being shot in the abdomen and paralyzed, the baby is said to be alright.
 
A memorial is steps away from the place where all innocence was lost. The unthinkable crime that made even a night at the movies no longer feel safe.
 
"It just hurts, even if you don't know them that well," said Brenda Maldonado, who came to pay her respects.
 
The roadside tributes are growing by the hour. A patchwork of flowers, stuffed animals and candles.
 
"It's a way to share our love and bring the community together that we don't let this tear the community down and make us stop living," said Maldonado.
 
The swell of emotion comes as new information about the suspect emerges. 9 News has learned that James Holmes was awarded a prestigious grant from the National Institutes of Health. It gave the graduate student a $26,000 stipend and paid his tuition for the highly competitive program in neuroscience at the University of Colorado in Denver.
 
It is difficult even to consider that taxpayer dollars may have helped fund his alleged rampage.
 
Written by Andrea McCarren
 
9NEWS NOW & WUSA9.COM

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« Reply #855 on: July 24, 2012, 10:55:46 AM »
more guns is the solution to this problem.

absolutely.


*face palm*

As usual YOU are wrong and can't grasp the subject. NO the solution isn't more guns it's don't prohibit LEGAL LAW ABIDING citizens rights to guns because of some mental case

More laws isn't the solution to the problem when criminals don't follow them. the laws are affecting the wrong people


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« Reply #856 on: July 24, 2012, 10:56:34 AM »
Shut the fuck up you worthless f.aggot. What the hell do you know about guns? Drugs are illegal right? Does that stop millions of people from being junkies? Does it stop people from buying and selling dope? Stricter gun laws only effect the responsible citizens. In New York State you have to go through a million hoops to get a handgun permit. You think bad guys are going to go through all of that trouble to procure a hand gun? No dummy criminals don't follow the rules. My dads a legit buisness owner, he wanted to get a handgun to protect his buisness. He gave up after he realized all of the bullshit inconvience you have to go through just to get one.


Just because one lunatic out of millions of responsible gun owners blows a fuse doesn't mean everyone else should be punished. Look how many people get killed by ciggerettes, drunk drivers, car accidents, etc etc. Do we outlaw those things? No we make the penalties more severe.

Well said Mack.
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« Reply #857 on: July 24, 2012, 10:59:52 AM »
One of the victims in the James Holmes mass murder spree has lawyered up and plans to file a lawsuit ... because he feels the theater dropped the ball in a very fatal way.

Torrence Brown, Jr. was in Century 16 Theater when Holmes let loose.  One of Brown's best friends, A.J. Boik, was shot in the chest and died.  Brown, who was not physically injured, claims to now suffer from extreme trauma.









Brown has hired attorney Donald Karpel to rep him.  Karpel tells TMZ ... he is targeting 3 defendants.

1.  The theater.  Karpel claims it was negligent for the theater to have an emergency door in the front that was not alarmed or guarded.  It's widely believed Holmes entered the theater with a ticket,  propped the emergency door open from inside, went to his car and returned with guns.






2.  Holmes' doctors.  Karpel says it appears Holmes was on several medications -- prescribed by one or more doctors --  at the time of the shooting and he believes the docs did not properly monitor Holmes.





3.  Warner Bros.  Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action.  The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie.  Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."


No 3 is  idiotic.

No 1 doesn't make much sense either.

No 2 needs to be investigated seriously.

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« Reply #858 on: July 24, 2012, 11:11:03 AM »
in both cases, conservative fuck jobs think that the answer to the problem is the cause of the problem. yes, they are very much related.

You couldn't be any more wrong about the problem or the solution.

The problem IS NOT guns it's lunatics who are hell-bent on killing people by ANY means and the solution IS NOT passing any new gun laws which restrict the rights of people who actually follow the law.

This lunatic broke a host of laws , why not have a law on murder? OH wait there already is one  ::) but wait let's make new guns laws that would stop this  ::)

Oppssss can't go on a murder spree because they passed a law saying I shouldn't have an assault rifle  ::)


the solution to the problem is to pass a law that only law abiding citizens intend to follow , makes perfect sense  ::)

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« Reply #859 on: July 24, 2012, 11:13:14 AM »
You can always count on ND to put his hands to his ears, hop in little circles and repeat the same things again and again ad nauseum.

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« Reply #860 on: July 24, 2012, 11:14:46 AM »
Why doesnt this clown sue the Federal Govt since they gave this freak the $$$$$ to buy all this stuff? 

Another govt funded disaster resulting in deaths, just like Fast n Furious   

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« Reply #861 on: July 24, 2012, 11:17:09 AM »
You can always count on ND to put his hands to his ears, hop in little circles and repeat the same things again and again ad nauseum.

Damn right because morons can't grasp simple concepts.

You pass new laws restricting the rights of who? law-abiding citizens , criminals don't follow laws so it's redundant and wrong to punish people who follow the laws.

Anyone who says new laws are the solution are flat-out wrong and will be corrected. and I don't give a fuck who likes it or not.  ;)

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« Reply #862 on: July 24, 2012, 11:20:34 AM »
ND and Mack,

There is no intelligible retort to your statements.
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« Reply #863 on: July 24, 2012, 11:25:52 AM »
Damn right because morons can't grasp simple concepts.

You pass new laws restricting the rights of who? law-abiding citizens , criminals don't follow laws so it's redundant and wrong to punish people who follow the laws.

Anyone who says new laws are the solution are flat-out wrong and will be corrected. and I don't give a fuck who likes it or not.  ;)

Of course you don't give a fuck bro, it's like, blatantly obvious- for you a debate on anything is out of the question. you wait for your turn to post and that's about it, fuck other people's views, or arguing across a point, your objective is simply to repeat your views ad nauseum and if you have to spend years of your life, then so be it.

Narcissistic to the last and as to deity?

I think it's amazing that you've made it to your middle age (what are you late forties? early fifties?) only to develop such an attitude! What a waste of experience, man!
In the end, I want you and yours and stay the way you are forever; insular, inflexible, compulsive and all-knowing, you will rot from the inside that much faster.

kisses, sweetheart ;)

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« Reply #864 on: July 24, 2012, 11:32:20 AM »
ND and Mack,

There is no intelligible retort to your statements.

That's why I think liberalism is a disease. It's unmanley as fuck. What kind of sissyfied girly man wants to make it harder to own guns. A tool that is used to protect your family from bad guys and possibly a wacked goverement. Bunch of slacked jawwed guys around here. If you're really that mad about people dieing go lobby against smokes and alcohol.

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« Reply #865 on: July 24, 2012, 11:33:15 AM »
Of course you don't give a fuck bro, it's like, blatantly obvious- for you a debate on anything is out of the question. you wait for your turn to post and that's about it, fuck other people's views, or arguing across a point, your objective is simply to repeat your views ad nauseum and if you have to spend years of your life, then so be it.

Narcissistic to the last and as to deity?

I think it's amazing that you've made it to your middle age (what are you late forties? early fifties?) only to develop such an attitude! What a waste of experience, man!
In the end, I want you and yours and stay the way you are forever; insular, inflexible, compulsive and all-knowing, you will rot from the inside that much faster.

kisses, sweetheart ;)


In what fantasy land full of ponies and unicorns does a law stop a murderous psychopath like this who would go so far as to rig his apartment w 30 bombs and trip wire w 10 gallons of gasoline?


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« Reply #866 on: July 24, 2012, 11:33:58 AM »
Of course you don't give a fuck bro, it's like, blatantly obvious- for you a debate on anything is out of the question. you wait for your turn to post and that's about it, fuck other people's views, or arguing across a point, your objective is simply to repeat your views ad nauseum and if you have to spend years of your life, then so be it.

Narcissistic to the last and as to deity?

I think it's amazing that you've made it to your middle age (what are you late forties? early fifties?) only to develop such an attitude! What a waste of experience, man!
In the end, I want you and yours and stay the way you are forever; insular, inflexible, compulsive and all-knowing, you will rot from the inside that much faster.

kisses, sweetheart ;)

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Of course you don't give a fuck bro, it's like, blatantly obvious- for you a debate on anything is out of the question. you wait for your turn to post and that's about it, fuck other people's views, or arguing across a point, your objective is simply to repeat your views ad nauseum and if you have to spend years of your life, then so be it.

No it's not out of the question and it's fuck other people's views when they defy logic and common sense and based on ignorance and emotion. I've heard all the counter points I've assessed the validity of their position and came to the conclusion they are dead fucking wrong.



 
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I think it's amazing that you've made it to your middle age (what are you late forties? early fifties?) only to develop such an attitude! What a waste of experience, man!
In the end, I want you and yours and stay the way you are forever; insular, inflexible, compulsive and all-knowing, you will rot from the inside that much faster.

kisses, sweetheart ;)

I'm glad I invoke such emotion in you  ;D certain things wont be entertained just corrected.  ;)



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« Reply #867 on: July 24, 2012, 11:38:28 AM »
That's why I think liberalism is a disease. It's unmanley as fuck. What kind of sissyfied girly man wants to make it harder to own guns. A tool that is used to protect your family from bad guys and possibly a wacked goverement. Bunch of slacked jawwed guys around here. If you're really that mad about people dieing go lobby against smokes and alcohol.
Bringing your patented spazz to the gun thread. Awesome!    ;D

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« Reply #868 on: July 24, 2012, 11:39:54 AM »

In what fantasy land full of ponies and unicorns does a law stop a murderous psychopath like this who would go so far as to rig his apartment w 30 bombs and trip wire w 10 gallons of gasoline?



I'm sure all of those were against the law already , so the solution is to pass new laws that he wouldn't intend on following  :D

This lunatic killed a bunch of people with an AR15 so the solution to this is preventing YOU from getting one because you have the potential to get loony like him , makes great sense.

Let's reinstate the failed assault weapons ban , that would have stopped him. Ummmm NO it wouldn't he would have just bought a pre-ban AR15 and a pre-ban 100 round beta-mag , damn then we should just confiscate ALL guns and everyone will live in a Utopian society were we all group-hug and talk about our feelings over chamomile tea and crackers.


DO NOT impose your stupidity on me because of this asshole's stupidity. YOU don't like assault rifles don't buy one but don't tell me I can own one because of some asshole may decided to go off the deep end.   

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« Reply #869 on: July 24, 2012, 11:44:22 AM »
I'm sure all of those were against the law already , so the solution is to pass new laws that he wouldn't intend on following  :D

This lunatic killed a bunch of people with an AR15 so the solution to this is preventing YOU from getting one because you have the potential to get loony like him , makes great sense.

Let's reinstate the failed assault weapons ban , that would have stopped him. Ummmm NO it wouldn't he would have just bought a pre-ban AR15 and a pre-ban 100 round beta-mag , damn then we should just confiscate ALL guns and everyone will live in a Utopian society were we all group-hug and talk about our feelings over chamomile tea and crackers.


DO NOT impose your stupidity on me because of this asshole's stupidity. YOU don't like assault rifles don't buy one but don't tell me I can own one because of some asshole may decided to go off the deep end.   

Or he would have bombed the theatre as well. 

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« Reply #870 on: July 24, 2012, 11:46:20 AM »
One of the victims in the James Holmes mass murder spree has lawyered up and plans to file a lawsuit ... because he feels the theater dropped the ball in a very fatal way.

Torrence Brown, Jr. was in Century 16 Theater when Holmes let loose.  One of Brown's best friends, A.J. Boik, was shot in the chest and died.  Brown, who was not physically injured, claims to now suffer from extreme trauma.









Brown has hired attorney Donald Karpel to rep him.  Karpel tells TMZ ... he is targeting 3 defendants.

1.  The theater.  Karpel claims it was negligent for the theater to have an emergency door in the front that was not alarmed or guarded.  It's widely believed Holmes entered the theater with a ticket,  propped the emergency door open from inside, went to his car and returned with guns.






2.  Holmes' doctors.  Karpel says it appears Holmes was on several medications -- prescribed by one or more doctors --  at the time of the shooting and he believes the docs did not properly monitor Holmes.





3.  Warner Bros.  Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action.  The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie.  Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."




Dude needs to also Sue his Mother for allowing him to go to the movies that late, and sue her for giving him the money to buy the ticket to the batman rises

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« Reply #871 on: July 24, 2012, 11:48:15 AM »


Dude needs to also Sue his Mother for allowing him to go to the movies that late, and sue her for giving him the money to buy the ticket to the batman rises

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« Reply #872 on: July 24, 2012, 11:50:00 AM »
Meh. He's only the first to lawyer up - there'll be a lot more to follow, all looking for those deep pockets. If there's one other thing you guys like as much as gun violence, its litigation.  

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« Reply #873 on: July 24, 2012, 11:51:17 AM »
Meh. He's only the first to lawyer up - there'll be a lot more to follow, all looking for those deep pockets. If there's one other thing you guys like as much as gun violence, its litigation.  

Time Warner is going to pay up big time in this just for the PR issue in this.   

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« Reply #874 on: July 24, 2012, 11:52:07 AM »
Meh. He's only the first to lawyer up - there'll be a lot more to follow, all looking for those deep pockets. If there's one other thing you guys like as much as gun violence, its litigation.  

I think there may be a case against the killer's doctors. I mean, if he was taking medication and being supervised.