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Re: Lunatic kills 12 at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Colorado
« Reply #925 on: July 25, 2012, 02:22:28 PM »
In the Roman Republic, free men were supposed to have their own weapons and armour so that if needed they could defend their country and their property from foreign enemies or local despots.
Their people had risen up against the rule of oppressive Kings and established a system where male property owners voted for their leaders each year.

Then when the Republic became an Empire and Dictatorship, civilians were prohibited from having any weapons.

The reason for this was so that the public could not rise up against the state and could be kept under better control. The leadership could do whatever they wanted and charge whatever taxes and no-one could stop them.



America is a mirror image of Rome.  Power, greed, decadence, and the eventual fall.

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Re: Lunatic kills 12 at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Colorado
« Reply #926 on: July 26, 2012, 02:51:54 AM »
America is a mirror image of Rome.  Power, greed, decadence, and the eventual fall.

I agree.

The founding fathers of the Roman Republic were against opulence and outward displays of wealth. The aristocracy were farmers and applied their more rustic and simple virtues to everyday life.

They viewed opulence as a weakness, a type of corruption. Outwards displays of wealth were almost scandalous and frowned upon. Such a person would not be viewed as virtuous or suitable for public office.

But eventually, towards the end of the Roman Republic, the ego took over. The aristocracy were no longer content to merely have wealth and land and live a good life, they wanted to show others their wealth.
In order words, the rustic simpler values started to change. It was all about the biggest palace you could build on the prime spot overlooking the city or the biggest most crazy banquette and entertainment you could stage.

Instead of people looking up to heroism or the virtues of their leaders, it became all about getting more wealth and political power. The titles you had became more important than what you actually stood for or believed in.

Before, Romans used to admire simple frugal values and would elect their leaders according to this criteria.

In times of crises they would elect a 'Dictator' (where we get the modern word) to lead them for a set term where they would rule absolutely and then relinquish power.
One of them was Cincinnatus who was apparently summoned from his farm while he was literally ploughing a field!

I think this is the main similarity with America.
The founding fathers admired virtue and like the early Romans were also simpler and more modest people who truly believed in freedom and their values.

The death of the Roman Republic came about due to personal ego's, where politicians and generals wanted as much power as possible for themselves.
Which in turn lead to several civil wars and eventually a dictatorship that would last over a thousand years.

The Republic did fight for their freedom and for the Senate but they lost.
But they still had the old virtues, when they knew it was over on the battlefield the leaders killed themselves with their own swords.

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Re: Lunatic kills 12 at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Colorado
« Reply #927 on: July 26, 2012, 03:52:43 AM »
^Let the Church say Amen

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Re: Lunatic kills 12 at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Colorado
« Reply #928 on: July 26, 2012, 04:35:17 AM »
I agree.

The founding fathers of the Roman Republic were against opulence and outward displays of wealth. The aristocracy were farmers and applied their more rustic and simple virtues to everyday life.

They viewed opulence as a weakness, a type of corruption. Outwards displays of wealth were almost scandalous and frowned upon. Such a person would not be viewed as virtuous or suitable for public office.

But eventually, towards the end of the Roman Republic, the ego took over. The aristocracy were no longer content to merely have wealth and land and live a good life, they wanted to show others their wealth.
In order words, the rustic simpler values started to change. It was all about the biggest palace you could build on the prime spot overlooking the city or the biggest most crazy banquette and entertainment you could stage.

Instead of people looking up to heroism or the virtues of their leaders, it became all about getting more wealth and political power. The titles you had became more important than what you actually stood for or believed in.

Before, Romans used to admire simple frugal values and would elect their leaders according to this criteria.

In times of crises they would elect a 'Dictator' (where we get the modern word) to lead them for a set term where they would rule absolutely and then relinquish power.
One of them was Cincinnatus who was apparently summoned from his farm while he was literally ploughing a field!

I think this is the main similarity with America.
The founding fathers admired virtue and like the early Romans were also simpler and more modest people who truly believed in freedom and their values.

The death of the Roman Republic came about due to personal ego's, where politicians and generals wanted as much power as possible for themselves.
Which in turn lead to several civil wars and eventually a dictatorship that would last over a thousand years.

The Republic did fight for their freedom and for the Senate but they lost.
But they still had the old virtues, when they knew it was over on the battlefield the leaders killed themselves with their own swords.
Bingo bango.

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WOULD YOU?
« Reply #929 on: July 26, 2012, 07:33:29 AM »
Have jumped to save a girlfriend with your life?

(CNN) -- Great evil often brings out the best in good men, men like Todd Beamer on Flight 93, Medal of Honor recipient Michael Murphy in Afghanistan and now the Aurora three -- the three young men, each in different parts of theater nine, who gave their lives to protect their girlfriends.
Twenty-five-year-old Jon Blunk was sitting next to his girlfriend, Jansen Young, at the midnight premiere of "The Dark Night Rises" when the gunman (who shall remain nameless) opened fire in the dark theater. Blunk instinctively pushed his girlfriend to the ground and threw his body on top of hers. Blunk, a security guard, served eight years in the Navy and was in the process of re-enlisting in hopes of becoming a Navy SEAL, family and friends said. He was killed in the gunfire; his girlfriend survived.
 
Twenty-four-year-old Alex Teves dived on top of his girlfriend, Amanda Lindgren, when the gunfire erupted. Covering her body, he took the bullets so they did not harm her. She survived the massacre; he did not.
 
Matt McQuinn, 27 years old, threw his body in front of his girlfriend, Samantha Yowler, as the shooting continued. Yowler survived with a gunshot wound to the knee; McQuinn's body absorbed the fatal shots.
 

These men were three of the 12 innocent people killed early that morning. Their incredible sacrifice leaves us asking: Why? Why would a young man with his entire life ahead of him risk everything for a woman he has no legal, financial or marital obligations to?
 
Opinion: Looking into the minds of killers
 
As Hanna Rosin so eloquently pointed out in a recent article, calling it chivalry would be a tremendous understatement. By all appearances, these men believed that a man has a responsibility to protect a woman, even to the point of death. They believed that there are things in life worth dying for and the innocent woman sitting next to them was one.
 


Babysitter tried to save youngest victim
They believed, to put it simply, in a code of honor. They put the lives of the women before their own, an old fashioned notion to be sure, but certainly an honorable one (if you have any doubt, ask the survivors). Their instincts were to protect, not run away.

 
From all accounts, these young men were average, working men in their 20s. (We know a little about Jon Blunk, but not much, and we know even less about the others.) Like all men, they had their own struggles. After his death we learned that Blunk had an ex-wife and two children living in Nevada. He was scheduled to visit them to resolve marital issues. This isn't to take anything away from Blunk or the other two heroes, but to illustrate that, in spite of shortcomings, men can still recognize what it means to be a good man and act like one.
 

 
This is especially important given the state of many men today. Record numbers of men aren't working or even looking for work. Record numbers aren't marrying or even acting as fathers to their children. These men need heroes to imitate whom they can relate to in everyday life, not just make-believe superheroes who catch their imagination for an hour or two. They need heroes like the Aurora three.
 
While much of the media obsesses over the psychology and motivations of this deranged killer, we should hold the Aurora three high. It is only by telling their story that this code of honor will survive for future generations of men. "The world is forwarded by having its attention fixed on the best things," Matthew Arnold wrote.
 
In an age when traditional manhood has been increasingly relegated to fiction -- capes, masks and green screens -- these three men stand as real-life heroes. Their actions remind us that good triumphs over evil, not just in movies, but also in reality.

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #930 on: July 26, 2012, 07:39:37 AM »
Before I had kids, I did some risky stuff a few times to help/save a person. Stuff I wouldn't do now, because my responsibility towards my children prevails.... :)

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #931 on: July 26, 2012, 07:53:39 AM »
The woman who wrote that left out the crucial part: The sort of loyalty these gentlemen displayed is the function of year after year of cheerfully performed daily oral service from their girl.  Cocksucking: The life you save may be your own.

And no.  Obviously.

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #932 on: July 26, 2012, 07:59:23 AM »
My mother and sisters - Yes!

Girlfriend - No!

girl will be out with another man in a week while I rot in a cemetery and miss a life-time with my family.

We all make mistakes.  You just want to make sure you can recover from your's.

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #933 on: July 26, 2012, 08:00:49 AM »
I would gladly pull some ex-girlfriends in front of me to take them bullets... ;D

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #934 on: July 26, 2012, 08:01:25 AM »
I would gladly pull some ex-girlfriends in front of me to take them bullets... ;D

lol!

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #935 on: July 26, 2012, 08:01:34 AM »
i woulda threw my wife at the gunman and got the hell outta dodge, i could always get another wife but not another life
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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #936 on: July 26, 2012, 08:04:20 AM »
Yes. I'd rather go out as a useful hero to humanity, rather than an old cripple wearing depend diapers with a drawer full of Rx medication.

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #937 on: July 26, 2012, 08:05:01 AM »
i woulda threw my wife at the gunman and got the hell outta dodge, i could always get another wife but not another life
I read once that if western men are given to choice to rescue either their mother or their wife from death, they mostly save their wife.
Almost all Japanese men would save their mother, saying you can always marry again, but you only got one mother..... :D

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #938 on: July 26, 2012, 08:06:33 AM »
America, 3am: "I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FUCK WE'RE FIGHTING ABOUT!  YES, I'LL TAKE A FUCKING BULLET FOR YOU!  OK?!"


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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #939 on: July 26, 2012, 08:15:55 AM »
the truth is all r wives/girlfriends would be banging another guy in little time if we dropped dead today, who ever thinks different is kidding themselves.
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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #940 on: July 26, 2012, 08:16:53 AM »
I thought this was a Would you hit thread.....


Oh well...


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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #941 on: July 26, 2012, 08:17:38 AM »
Video, or it never haPpened

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #942 on: July 26, 2012, 08:17:40 AM »
the truth is all r wives/girlfriends would be banging another guy in little time if we dropped dead today, who ever thinks different is kidding themselves.

equally true... we'd be at her funeral evaulating which of the consoling friends we'll be banging in the ass inside of 10 days to blow off steam.

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #943 on: July 26, 2012, 08:19:02 AM »
equally true... we'd be at her funeral evaulating which of the consoling friends we'll be banging in the ass inside of 10 days to blow off steam.

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Re: Lunatic kills 12 at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Colorado
« Reply #944 on: July 26, 2012, 10:58:36 AM »

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Re: Lunatic kills 12 at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Colorado
« Reply #945 on: July 26, 2012, 11:01:12 AM »
James Holmes has been forced to wear a face guard in prison because he will not stop spitting at guards

 


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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #946 on: July 26, 2012, 12:08:09 PM »
My next door neighbour died saving his GF life upa  mountain in New Zealand - she fell and he grabbed her stopped her but fell to his death. They were due to be married a few weeks later. He was a nice man.

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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #947 on: July 26, 2012, 12:08:54 PM »
My wife,or my life?

See ya` honey!  ;D

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Re: WOULD YOU?
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Re: WOULD YOU?
« Reply #949 on: July 26, 2012, 12:13:13 PM »
all made up stories
just to make these pussies die as heros
a bunch of BS