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Completely clueless.   BillO has no clue about the required tax stamps for full auto.

He's rattling off phrases like "AK 47" and doens't have a freaking clue.

Hey republicans, look at your party leadership.   Top TV pundit is anti-gun.  Top neocon voice is anti-gun.  Romney signed an anti-gun AWB.


Yet you bitch about obama and the dems, who haven't subjected us to any anti-gun legislation.


Watch and see... we're at a point now where republicans are complaining about obama using too much violence on terrorists.  Repubs complaining about us bombing terr'ist kadaffi in libya.  Repubs complaining about obama allowing americans to buy a rifle.


You fvcks.  You fvcking fvcks.  Seriously, STFU ever criticizing obama for anti-gun again.  You fvcks.

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Andrea Ryan added this on firearms registration:
 
Bill O’Reilly was wrong and Senator Chaffetz was completely correct.
 

A simple reading of the ATF’s own website is irrefutable support that Bill O’Reilly was ranting on a topic he knows nothing about. And it’s a dangerous rant, because it incites people based on misinformation. For someone to call an AK-47 (a gun that could be, and is, used for hunting) “heavy armor” and “heavy armament” and then lump it in with mortars and heavy artillery is astoundingly uninformed. And then shame on Bill O’Reilly to tell Senator Chaffetz, who does know and understand the Federal laws, that he was wrong.
 
The Federal government requires a $200 SOT Tax Stamp for certain firearms listed below, along with an NFA application, a background check, and approval by the ATF, as well as, the local Chief Law Enforcement Officer. It’s an extremely rigorous and expensive process. The government makes it very difficult to own one of these and they make the burden on the individual to get it right quite brutal. Note: the machine guns that Bill O’Reilly said you can “just grab one at a gun show” are on the ATF’s list. You can’t just grab one at a gun show. This even applies to any piece of metal, i.e. a sear, that allows a rifle to become fully automatic.
 
The process takes many, many months. And if an owner wants to give or sell any of these firearms to another individual they must repeat the process, along with another $200 payment to the ATF.
 
From the ATF‘s website,
 

Q: The types of firearms that must be registered in the National Firearm Registration and Transfer Record are defined in the NFA and 27 CFR, Part 479. What are some examples?
 
Some examples of the types of firearms that must be registered are:
 •Machine guns;
 •The frames or receivers of machine guns;
 •Any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting weapons into machine guns;
 •Any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for converting a weapon into a machine gun;
 •Any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person;
 •Silencers and any part designed and intended for fabricating a silencer;
 •Short-barreled rifles;
 •Short-barreled shotguns;
 •Destructive devices; and,
 •“Any other weapon.”
 
A few examples of destructive devices are:
 •Molotov cocktails;
 •Anti-tank guns (over caliber .50);
 •Bazookas; and,
 •Mortars.
 
A few examples of “any other weapon” are:
 •H&R Handyguns;
 •Ithaca Auto-Burglar guns;
 •Cane guns; and,
 •Gadget-type firearms and “pen” guns which fire a projectile by the action of an explosive.
 
[26 U.S.C. 5845]
 
Q: How can an individual legally acquire NFA firearms?
 
Basically, there are 2 ways that an individual (who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from receiving or possessing firearms) may legally acquire NFA firearms:
 1.By transfer after approval by ATF of a registered weapon from its lawful owner residing in the same State as the transferee.
 2.By obtaining prior approval from ATF to make NFA firearms.
 
[27 CFR 479.62-66 and 479.84-86]
 
Q: What is the tax on making an NFA firearm?
 
The tax is $200 for making any NFA firearm, including “any other weapon.”
 
Q: How is this tax paid?
 
A money order or check made payable to the Bureau of ATF together with the application forms are to be mailed to the Bureau of ATF, NFA Branch.

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It infuriates me.  

I cannot understand what is appearing to be a coordinated effort - among the top voices of the GOP - to shit on gun rights.

If Obama made this quote, it woudl be on the front page of drudge.  unreal.  Disgusting.  If rachel maddow said this, she'd be getting wrecked on the boards for being an anti-gun moron.  I bet (aside frmo 333386), most getbiggers won't call oreilly a clueless moron who doesn't think you deserve your rifle.

I mean, he doesn't konw the diff from an AK and a rifle.  An AK "IS" a rifle.  Fuuuck guys, THIS is the voice of the repub party?  unreal.

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Completely clueless.   BillO has no clue about the required tax stamps for full auto.

He's rattling off phrases like "AK 47" and doens't have a freaking clue.

Hey republicans, look at your party leadership.   Top TV pundit is anti-gun.  Top neocon voice is anti-gun.  Romney signed an anti-gun AWB.


Yet you bitch about obama and the dems, who haven't subjected us to any anti-gun legislation.


Watch and see... we're at a point now where republicans are complaining about obama using too much violence on terrorists.  Repubs complaining about us bombing terr'ist kadaffi in libya.  Repubs complaining about obama allowing americans to buy a rifle.


You fvcks.  You fvcking fvcks.  Seriously, STFU ever criticizing obama for anti-gun again.  You fvcks.


How about this obessession w the ammo?   Would these dopes have felt any different if he got the ammo from Wal Mart instead and bought the ammo in 200 rd increments at different wal marts over the course of two years?  

 

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It infuriates me.  

I cannot understand what is appearing to be a coordinated effort - among the top voices of the GOP - to shit on gun rights.

If Obama made this quote, it woudl be on the front page of drudge.  unreal.  Disgusting.  If rachel maddow said this, she'd be getting wrecked on the boards for being an anti-gun moron.  I bet (aside frmo 333386), most getbiggers won't call oreilly a clueless moron who doesn't think you deserve your rifle.

I mean, he doesn't konw the diff from an AK and a rifle.  An AK "IS" a rifle.  Fuuuck guys, THIS is the voice of the repub party?  unreal.


A trained shooter with a scoped in deer rifle or a lever action 30-30 could have killed just as many if not more than Holmes did. 


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THANK YOU 333386!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Props for not being a bill-O kneepadder.  He is really ignorant on this topic.  he didn't know what a tax stamp is.  He didn't konw an Ak is in fact, a rifle.  He thought all AKs were full auto.

WHO is the pro-gun voice of the GOP now?  Do we even know?   ROmney signed an assault weapons ban, period.  Dude will take your guns if he can.

Now kristol and Oreilly agree.  shaking my head.

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THANK YOU 333386!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Props for not being a bill-O kneepadder.  He is really ignorant on this topic.  he didn't know what a tax stamp is.  He didn't konw an Ak is in fact, a rifle.  He thought all AKs were full auto.

WHO is the pro-gun voice of the GOP now?  Do we even know?   ROmney signed an assault weapons ban, period.  Dude will take your guns if he can.

Now kristol and Oreilly agree.  shaking my head.


It is so absurd that these media people are so uniformed on these topics.   

The fact is that you can walk into wal mart and buy ammo.   He could have went to 6 different wal marts over a year and ammassed the same amount of ammo without a hitch. 

And big FNG deal "AK47"

Someone who is a good shot w a Ruger 10-22, also semi-auto, can just as easily take me out. 

Is the Ruger 10-22 an "assault rifle" now too or "heavy weaponry" as BOR calls it? 

Just embarassing episode on Fox News all around. 

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How about this obessession w the ammo?   Would these dopes have felt any different if he got the ammo from Wal Mart instead and bought the ammo in 200 rd increments at different wal marts over the course of two years?  

Great point.  He could have picked it up in small increments just as easily.  no billO wants the government intervening when people purchase ammo in bulk to save money.  I remember buying 1000 rounds for $115 a few years back (i'm sure it is much more expensive now haha) from one of those same bulkammo.com sites - I'm glad billO wasn't there to yell at me for it.

I'm shocked he was so ill-prepared for this.  He didn't know what a tax stamp was.  WTF man?  

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This is hilarious and scary as hell.  The Republicans are now full on neoconservatives (liberals), Beach Bum, O'Reilly, etc...  The democrats are more conservative.  Obama


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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 05:54:10 AM »
Great point.  He could have picked it up in small increments just as easily.  no billO wants the government intervening when people purchase ammo in bulk to save money.  I remember buying 1000 rounds for $115 a few years back (i'm sure it is much more expensive now haha) from one of those same bulkammo.com sites - I'm glad billO wasn't there to yell at me for it.

I'm shocked he was so ill-prepared for this.  He didn't know what a tax stamp was.  WTF man?  

I am in a few facebook threads on this topic.  The anti-2nd amend types are so uninformed on these topics its really embarassing debating them and pointing out their many false ideas about how things really work.  Typically these are people who never owned a weapon in the first place and have no idea what is involved to do it legally.  

They never heard of NICS, nothing.  

And as Chaffetz said - what amount of rounds is enough for BOR to trigger notifying the FBI?   100, 1000, 10,000?  The FBI could not even keep track of Anwars Al Aliki despite 18 emails about him, or some of the 911 terrorists.  

  

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 05:56:50 AM »
THANK YOU 333386!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Props for not being a bill-O kneepadder.  He is really ignorant on this topic.  he didn't know what a tax stamp is.  He didn't konw an Ak is in fact, a rifle.  He thought all AKs were full auto.

WHO is the pro-gun voice of the GOP now?  Do we even know?   ROmney signed an assault weapons ban, period.  Dude will take your guns if he can.

Now kristol and Oreilly agree.  shaking my head.

BOR is a joke - and its not just this topic.   On many issues he is wholly uninformed and unprepared.   

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 06:12:00 AM »
Let's take BOR's rant to the next step:


 1. If you say that ammo purchases over 1,000 rounds have to be reported to the FBI. Then what is stopping someone from just purchasing 900 rounds from several different stores or Internet sellers? Is it just on the honor system? Because if you say that all seller would have to report the purchases and someone in the FBI would check to see if multiple purchases were made, then what you are really saying is that ALL ammo purchases must be reported to the FBI and anyone walking into Wal-Mart to buy a box of .22 Ammo would have to fill out a form that goes to the FBI.

 2. What happens when somebody purchases what you consider a large amount of Ammo? Does the FBI show up at their door to ask what its for? Do they have to provide a valid response, what if they just tell the FBI agent it's none of their business and to get lost? Can the FBI then confiscate the Ammo because the purchaser didn't provide a "valid" reason for needing it, even though the purchaser did not break any laws.
 

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 06:17:21 AM »
i've spent an afternoon on the range with 4 or 5 buddies. 

1000 rounds wouldn't last long at all.

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2012, 06:20:30 AM »
i've spent an afternoon on the range with 4 or 5 buddies. 

1000 rounds wouldn't last long at all.

My uncle is a huge Trap shooting fan and goes all over the place.   He will do 10 rounds a day sometimes or more.   Should the FBI go visit him for owning weak ass bird shot and target round shells for tourneys? 


LOL   

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2012, 06:23:53 AM »
whats scary is that someone so misinformed about the gun issue has been near the top of the repub pundit voice for over a decade.


his producers were no doubt saying "bill, stop talking!" in his earpiece and he dug deeper with his nonsense.  You could tell by the un-sure-ness in his voice that he was no longer confident in what he was saying - making it up as he went along.

HERE is the thing - unless you understand gun laws, you cannot deliver an effective anti-gun argument.  33, you or I could (despite the moral corruption) devise a much more effective anti-gun argument because we are informed on the topic.  not that we would.

The point is that bill makes the anti-gunners AND the repubs look bad.  I'm betting tonight on his show, he has a detailed grasp of the topic (taught to him this afternoon, no doubt), and some idiots will come on getbig as use that as evidence that Bill-O understood the topic all along ;)

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2012, 07:11:33 AM »
  I'm thoroughly convinced that the national IQ level would jump a few points if we simply stopped watching corporate news networks like BSNBC and Fux News.

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2012, 07:26:53 AM »


Seems fair.

Why do you need 60,000 rounds? Why not track that ordinance?

I'm an Englishman, so explain this to me.

These guns aren't for hunting rabbits, right?
They aren't for home protection, right?

So are you allowing these weapons so that the people can rise up against the government if government gets out of hand?

If so - when the fuck are you going to rise up? Cause it sure as shit seems to me the government is out of hand already.

Then again, regardless of the fact you have a fancy gun at home, if the government of the USA decides to point their weapons inwards, what the fnck you going to do anyway? You might well be the big man in the cinema against a room full of people with popcorn but really, what are you going to do against a well armed force of trained soldiers?

Fuck all is what.

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2012, 07:31:31 AM »
Seems fair.

Why do you need 60,000 rounds? Why not track that ordinance?

I'm an Englishman, so explain this to me.

These guns aren't for hunting rabbits, right?
They aren't for home protection, right?

So are you allowing these weapons so that the people can rise up against the government if government gets out of hand?

If so - when the fuck are you going to rise up? Cause it sure as shit seems to me the government is out of hand already.

Then again, regardless of the fact you have a fancy gun at home, if the government of the USA decides to point their weapons inwards, what the fnck you going to do anyway? You might well be the big man in the cinema against a room full of people with popcorn but really, what are you going to do against a well armed force of trained soldiers?

Fuck all is what.


You really don't understand the history of this country do you? 

The 2nd amendment is clearly not about hunting or home defense.


 

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2012, 07:35:39 AM »
nothing wrong with having 60k rounds.

You need 60,000 rounds for the same reason you need 60 rounds - hunting, target practice, self-defense.

If the price is right, stock up.  Keep it dry, it won't go bad.  If I bought a large amount of ammo and govt workers came to the door to ask me why, I think i'd fall down laughing.  Seriously?  A person only has ONE set of hands.  Fire 30 rounds, reload.   Any limit would have been circumvented with small purchases.

IMO, the fact there wasn't an armed security guard at a midnight showing of a movie = the problem.  Several clean shots fired from the elevated projector position and that joker is down for the count. 

Instead, I'm guessing it was 8 or 9 theater employees calling 911 from their cell phones after spending 3 or 4 minutes fleeing.

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 07:37:32 AM »
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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2012, 07:38:35 AM »

You really don't understand the history of this country do you? 

The 2nd amendment is clearly not about hunting or home defense.
 

No - I understand it quite well.

I understand that you have the right to form armed militias to keep government in check.

So what you gonna do about the government, fat boy? Seems like you whine a lot about it but I don't see any action.

If whine is all you gonna do - there's no reason for that pen!s extension you have in your wardrobe is there? Of course, until you go postal and take out Yoko.

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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2012, 07:40:19 AM »
The Declaration of Independence:

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IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.




The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should
be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of

Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation,
have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to
their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its
Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and

Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.


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QFT  

Well - your government must be quite scared of you posting on getbig and all....

fucking quoting this whilst sitting on your ass doing nothing but whine on teh internet.

what a tard.

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2012, 07:41:01 AM »
No - I understand it quite well.

I understand that you have the right to form armed militias to keep government in check.

So what you gonna do about the government, fat boy? Seems like you whine a lot about it but I don't see any action.

If whine is all you gonna do - there's no reason for that pen!s extension you have in your wardrobe is there? Of course, until you go postal and take out Yoko.


LOL.   Nice little meltdown.

  

Let me ask you - what is the right amount of ammo to be allowed to have and who and how are you going to track it?  


  

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Re: Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate over Gun Control. What a moron.
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2012, 07:41:59 AM »
Well - your government must be quite scared of you posting on getbig and all....

fucking quoting this whilst sitting on your ass doing nothing but whine on teh internet.

what a tard.

WTF are you talking about? 

The issue is the govt and other leftists seeking to disarm people, which is not occuring as of yet.