trenbolone pills 25mg ??

[aliamini]

Has anyone tried trenbolone pills 25mg ??



How long does it saty detectable in the system??

[sportingsteroids]

what is the pills brand name?

[DIVISION]

Has anyone tried trenbolone pills 25mg ??

No such thing..........

Tren is only available in injectible form.....unless you count the Fina pellets and I know you aren't going to shoot those in your ass with an implant gun.   

Are you?





DIV

[Weez]

  You probably could "sublingual" the pellets, but the absorbtion wouldn't be so solid. These pellets, by the way have glues and binders attached to them, so it's probably not the smartest thing to injest them, and they are 20mgs. As of today, (although I am not into the "chemistry-make your own substances" portion of gear) I don't believe that there is a trenbolone pill.....

[Blake]

Actually there are trenbolone acetate pills made by British Dispensary.  They're not methylated though, so the bioavailability of the product is terrible.  You're much better off going with injectible form.

[DIVISION]

  You probably could "sublingual" the pellets, but the absorbtion wouldn't be so solid. These pellets, by the way have glues and binders attached to them, so it's probably not the smartest thing to injest them, and they are 20mgs. As of today, (although I am not into the "chemistry-make your own substances" portion of gear) I don't believe that there is a trenbolone pill.....

Actually there are trenbolone acetate pills made by British Dispensary.  They're not methylated though, so the bioavailability of the product is terrible.  You're much better off going with injectible form.

This is the point I was making with both......

There is no 17AA Tren pill, so the biovailability is non-existent, inefficient , effectively null and void.

BD isn't exactly the best quality anyway.....

Those Fina pellets were meant to be shot in to a cows's ass with an implant gun, not dissolved under your tongue......

You realize how many of those you'd have to let sit before getting a reasonable dose?

I can't believe you people brought this up.......




DIV

[Blake]

This is the point I was making with both......

There is no 17AA Tren pill, so the biovailability is non-existent, inefficient , effectively null and void.



DIV

Yep.  Negma researched methyltrienolone back in the day, but it never came to market simply because it is extremely hepatoxic (likely an understatement).

[DIVISION]

Yep.  Negma researched methyltrienolone back in the day, but it never came to market simply because it is extremely hepatoxic (likely an understatement).

Yet there will some asshole out there who will somehow rationalize that placing Tren pellets under his tongue will work.   




DIV

[Blake]

Yet there will some asshole out there who will somehow rationalize that placing Tren pellets under his tongue will work.   




DIV

LOL   

No doubt man, no doubt.

[gammahydroxy]

Yep.  Negma researched methyltrienolone back in the day, but it never came to market simply because it is extremely hepatoxic (likely an understatement).

Last i heard was that this shit was available...You only need small amounts...less than 1mg....Most potent steroid every created

[DIVISION]

Last i heard was that this shit was available...You only need small amounts...less than 1mg....Most potent steroid every created

If it's available, hook me up the 411, via PM......

I'd like to see about this for myself.

GHB......don't front.





DIV

[gammahydroxy]

Read this article...I was a bit off it seems on the Mg part..

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catmetri.htm

Words from Bill roberts.

Bill Roberts, the biochemist, once commented that taking methyltrienolone made taking insane doses of anadrol and Halotestin together look mild on the liver.

[Beyond Genetics]

This is the point I was making with both......

There is no 17AA Tren pill, so the biovailability is non-existent, inefficient , effectively null and void.

BD isn't exactly the best quality anyway.....

Those Fina pellets were meant to be shot in to a cows's ass with an implant gun, not dissolved under your tongue......

You realize how many of those you'd have to let sit before getting a reasonable dose?

I can't believe you people brought this up.......




DIV

17AA is not necessary to get a drug into your bloodstream. The original 1T before M1t was not 17AA, instead of 20mg's they had to make it 200mg's. You will still absorb the product but it will take doses of approx 10x what you were taking. Beyond the obvious cost of such is the worry of what all those binders will do to ones gut.

BTW: they shoot them in the Cow's ear.

[DIVISION]

Read this article...I was a bit off it seems on the Mg part..

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catmetri.htm

Words from Bill roberts.

Bill Roberts, the biochemist, once commented that taking methyltrienolone made taking insane doses of anadrol and Halotestin together look mild on the liver.

I believe it, just that nobody knows because it's not out on the market.

17AA is not necessary to get a drug into your bloodstream. The original 1T before M1t was not 17AA, instead of 20mg's they had to make it 200mg's. You will still absorb the product but it will take doses of approx 10x what you were taking.

I think I've already been over this........it's not cost efficient or realistic to do this.

Nobody does that.  17AA orals are methylated for the exact purpose of saving the chemical through first pass through the liver, so some of the product would be left over....


DIV

[Blake]

Last i heard was that this shit was available...You only need small amounts...less than 1mg....Most potent steroid every created

I've seen people debate whether or not methyltrienolone is the "most potent steroid ever created".

And again to point out potential hepatoxicity with methyltrienolone, it has been known in testing to cause jaundice from microgram dosages.  NOT miligram.  It isn't something I'd mess with, even if I could find it.  I'll stick to injecting tren acetate...   

[Beyond Genetics]

I believe it, just that nobody knows because it's not out on the market.

I think I've already been over this........it's not cost efficient or realistic to do this.

Nobody does that.  17AA orals are methylated for the exact purpose of saving the chemical through first pass through the liver, so some of the product would be left over....


DIV

I get it, I was just trying to explain why you overly stated that the biovailability was non-existent, when actually it is not. It's just not efficient.

[DIVISION]

I've seen people debate whether or not methyltrienolone is the "most potent steroid ever created".

And again to point out potential hepatoxicity with methyltrienolone, it has been known in testing to cause jaundice from microgram dosages.  NOT miligram.  It isn't something I'd mess with, even if I could find it.  I'll stick to injecting tren acetate...   

If it's so liver toxic, what exactly is its clinical use in studies?

I did a 6 week cycle of Tren just to see how my body felt on it......and I like it.

It's a nice drug to stack with Test and Winstrol.

Not as nice as Halotestin though.




DIV

[gammahydroxy]

Ya that article i quoted was from big Cat, He's a fucking poser...I originally read that doses were in the mcg range...Not milligram range..Well i thought that it was available from a certain source..However, that source also sells a bogus version of Oral masteron, which is nothing more than mestalone(aka MDHT).

[DIVISION]

Ya that article i quoted was from big Cat, He's a fucking poser...I originally read that doses were in the mcg range...Not milligram range..Well i thought that it was available from a certain source..However, that source also sells a bogus version of Oral masteron, which is nothing more than mestalone(aka MDHT).

A long time ago I read a couple articles from big Cat, but it's kinda hard to trust the information you get from a source.  He has his own agenda.

Don't feed the big Cat......he just gives you clumpy kitty litter......



DIV

[Blake]

If it's so liver toxic, what exactly is its clinical use in studies?

I did a 6 week cycle of Tren just to see how my body felt on it......and I like it.

It's a nice drug to stack with Test and Winstrol.

Not as nice as Halotestin though.




DIV

As far as current research uses, I'm not sure what all purposes would be, though I've seen it used multiple times in determining androgen binding activity (for example when studying androgen receptor mutations).

Here are a few studies done w/ methyltrienolone:

Tremblay RR, Dube JY, Ho-Kim MA, Lesage R. Determination of rat muscles androgen-receptor complexes with methyltrienolone. Steroids. 1977 Feb;29(2):185-95.

Asselin J, Labrie F, Gourdeau Y, Bonne C, Raynaud JP. Binding of [3H] methyltrienolone (R 1881) in rat prostate and human benign prostatic hypertrophy (BPH). Steroids. 1976 Oct;28(4):449-59.

Kruskemper HL, Noell G. Liver toxicity of a new anabolic agent: methyltrienolone (17-alpha-methyl-4,9,11-estratriene-17 beta-ol-3-one). Steroids. 1966 Jul;8(1):13-24.


And here's a good write-up regarding that last study by Kruskemper:

"Studies were done on 13 humans in Germany in 1966. GPT and GOT livervalues were measured. Now the max value of GPT (glutamaatpyruvaattransam inases) is 12.5 mu/ml. Some subjects got 0.1 (!) mg methyltrienolone per day and saw their GPT rise from
4.50 mu/ml to 224.0 mu/ml in only 2 weeks! That's fifty times higer than normal. Not two or three. Fifty! After a week off it was still at 68 mu/ml.
Some subjects who got the full 1.0mg/day saw their GPT rise to 299 mu/ml.
GOT (glutamaatoxalacetaatrans aminases) testing: same explosive increase to highly pathologic values in two weeks.
Cholinesterase enzyme lowered in the 1.0 mg group. That damage was permanent.

Not only is methyltrienolone the most hepatoxic steroid, it is also the most androgenic with a 'displacing ability' of 165%. It is also the most prostate unfriendly.

All 13 test subjects suffered permanent liver damage. They all also exhibited poisoning symptoms during the 2 week cycle, even de 0.1mg group."

[gammahydroxy]

check out this article from the man himself. The sad thing is that there are even more hepotoxic substances than Methyl-tren. 

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/arnold/steroid-development.htm

[DIVISION]

Cholinesterase enzyme lowered in the 1.0 mg group. That damage was permanent.

Not only is methyltrienolone the most hepatoxic steroid, it is also the most androgenic with a 'displacing ability' of 165%. It is also the most prostate unfriendly.

All 13 test subjects suffered permanent liver damage. They all also exhibited poisoning symptoms during the 2 week cycle, even de 0.1mg group."

^Scary shit........

Cholestatic Hepatoxicity is no joke......



DIV

[Hitman_Forhire]

Holy shit... I was looking at these:

http://store.yahoo.com/americandairyfarm/comth20dos.html

And searched the forums and ended up here. damn.

[jodster35]

   first of all finna pellets do work 3 a day under younge 1 morning 1 afternoon 1   before bed disolve under toung 4 -5 min mixed with a test damn u but on about 10 pounds in 4 weeks did it 2 times  so there ha ha it does work dont think u know it all

[Rimbaud]

I saw someone selling oral/liquid Tren awhile back & the doseage was 200mcg/ml.