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Re: Stretch
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2012, 08:23:43 AM »
beat it benny >:( you leach of society

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2012, 08:25:28 AM »
benny needs to get a good drink the man is not sane anymore haha

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2012, 08:29:03 AM »
here take a look at this



Thank you for finally putting some sense in this thread.

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2012, 08:30:23 AM »
Thank you for finally putting some sense in this thread.

dont worry bro

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2012, 09:39:35 AM »
You work hard, stretch every penny, but chances are you pay a higher tax rate than him: Mitt Romney made $20 million dollars in 2010, but paid only 14% in taxes—probably less than you.

Now he has a plan that will give millionaires another tax break and raises taxes on middle class families by up to $2000 dollars a year. Mitt Romney's middle class tax increase: he pays less, you pay more.



you probably pay more that Obama.  Look the "rich" pay federal taxes AS WELL AS capital gaines taxes.  Plus they LEGALLY contribute to chariteis etc to reduce their tax liability, JUST LIKE anyone else can.  Democrats, Repubs, Libs, "rich" all do this.  Stop trying to isolate one person and not take into consideration that this option is available to everyone.  They are just smart enough to use the laws available. 

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« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2012, 09:53:13 AM »
you probably pay more that Obama.  Look the "rich" pay federal taxes AS WELL AS capital gaines taxes.  Plus they LEGALLY contribute to chariteis etc to reduce their tax liability, JUST LIKE anyone else can.  Democrats, Repubs, Libs, "rich" all do this.  Stop trying to isolate one person and not take into consideration that this option is available to everyone.  They are just smart enough to use the laws available. 
Do what, exactly?  ???

You are not making any sense. You obviously did not watch the video "Migs", and/or have zero comprehension skills.  ::)


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Re: Stretch
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Re: Stretch
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2012, 10:17:49 AM »
Putting yourself at the head of a nation in order to give yourself and your buddies a gigantic tax break while screwing a 100 million plus of you fellow citizens and ballooning the deficit you pretend to care about? I'd say that's pretty unique to America...even unique to American presidents prior to Dubya.  ;)
Translation: " I'm poor and it's everyone else's fault."

Remember everyone if you're successful it's not from hard work, it's because the governments hard work. ::)

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« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2012, 10:21:18 AM »
Do what, exactly?  ???

You are not making any sense. You obviously did not watch the video "Migs", and/or have zero comprehension skills.  ::)




Get used to it.

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2012, 10:27:37 AM »
Translation: " I'm poor and it's everyone else's fault."

Remember everyone if you're successful it's not from hard work, it's because the governments hard work. ::)
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This is why people vote against their own interests. "RJ DRIVER" goes straight past the merits of Romney's tax scheme and instead regurgitates a republican/FOX News talking point. Uhh...what?

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2012, 10:30:18 AM »
Typical...people shoot their mouths off about "the rich" and how they screw everyone, but when yo ask for specifics you get a lot of nothing.   This isn't about the rich...it's about your feelings of inadequacy.  You're the economic equivalent of Planet Fitness.  Mad at the people who have more...mad that you don't have it.  Congratulations, you've reached the level of emotional maturity my daughte rhad...when she was two.

Benny...the economy is dead and Obama killed it.  He's toast....the only reason this race is even close right now is racism on the part of black and hispanic voters who won't consider voting for a white man over a (half) black man.  Pathetic....

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« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2012, 10:31:53 AM »
Get used to it.
Get used to Mitt The Twit taking a walk with his wife?  ???

I suppose he'll have plenty of time for long walks away from spotlight come mid November, if he so chooses. The American people won't give a shit what he's doing by then.
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Re: Stretch
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2012, 10:35:59 AM »
You work hard, stretch every penny, but chances are you pay a higher tax rate than him: Mitt Romney made $20 million dollars in 2010, but paid only 14% in taxes—probably less than you.

Now he has a plan that will give millionaires another tax break and raises taxes on middle class families by up to $2000 dollars a year. Mitt Romney's middle class tax increase: he pays less, you pay more.


The number of Americans filing new claims for jobless benefits rose last week and manufacturers suffered an unexpected drop in orders in June, suggesting the Obama economy is struggling worse than previously thought - Reuters


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« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2012, 11:00:19 AM »
The number of Americans filing new claims for jobless benefits rose last week and manufacturers suffered an unexpected drop in orders in June, suggesting the Obama economy is struggling worse than previously thought - Reuters



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Re: Stretch
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Re: Stretch
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2012, 11:06:27 AM »
Benny B would suck Obama's cock, if the POTUS wasn't impotent.
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Obama's Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack: "This administration believes food stamps are a stimulus"

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2012, 11:08:50 AM »

Whoa, PEA BRAIN's breaking out his collection of charts again! :o

Which one of those graphs shows the impact of Willard's tax plan? I can't tell.

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2012, 11:10:54 AM »
Whoa, PEA BRAIN's breaking out his collection of charts again! :o

Which one of those graphs shows the impact of Willard's tax plan? I can't tell.



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Re: Stretch
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2012, 11:11:17 AM »
Obama's Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack: "This administration believes food stamps are a stimulus"



What is Tom Nutsack's opinion of Romney's tax scheme?
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Re: Stretch
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2012, 11:18:27 AM »
June 2012 brought the perfect encapsulation of the Obama economy: More Americans signed up for disability benefits than got jobs. According to government statistics, 80,000 Americans found work last month, while 85,000 dropped out of the labor force altogether to collect Social Security disability payments.

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2012, 11:18:29 AM »
Let's see if I can't help some of you sad losers out. Maybe get ya' back on topic and feeling good about yourselves.  :)


When a candidate's numbers don't add up
By Steve Benen
Thu Aug 2, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

We'll know more about the electoral impact as time progresses, but yesterday's independent analysis of Mitt Romney's tax plan changed the nature of the debate. Researchers at the Brookings Institution and the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center delivered the equivalent of an electoral bombshell: the Republican's proposal cuts taxes on the rich and pays for it by raising taxes on the middle class.

It took less than a day for President Obama's campaign team to turn the revelations into an ad.

The tagline is brutal: "Mitt Romney's middle class tax increase: He pays less, you pay more." According to a campaign source, the spot will air in New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada.

Not surprisingly, the Romney campaign is not pleased, and spent of yesterday afternoon attacking the report. Romney spokesman Ryan Williams said Americans should question the results because the Tax Policy Center scholars who conducted the research are "liberal."

There are a few problems with this. First, this isn't an argument. Second, the Romney campaign has previously said the Tax Policy Center is "objective" and "non-partisan." And third, one of the co-authors of the report is a Bush administration veteran.

When the "liberal" talking point failed miserably, the Romney campaign tried a new tack: the Brookings/TPC analysis is flawed because the economists failed to account for "dynamic" scoring. As the argument goes, the Romney plan will produce such extraordinary results, the economy will boom, and the numbers will add up if you account for the magical awesomeness.

But here's the thing: the researchers "bent over backwards to literally give Romney every possible benefit of the doubt" and worked under the dubious assumption that more Republican tax cuts will stimulate the economy. Brookings/TPC ran the numbers while playing by Republican rules and the results were still a disaster.

There's a larger arc to this story, and it's critically important.

When it comes to taxes, Romney is effectively making two points. The first is that he can offer a 20% across-the-board income tax rate cut, while also eliminating the estate tax on millionaires and billionaires, slashing corporate tax rates, and approving a capital-gains tax cut, too.

The second part of the argument sets the parameters of his promise: he can do all of this without raising the deficit or destroying basic American institutions, simply by eliminating various tax deductions and tax expenditures.

Which ones? We don't know; Romney refuses to say. We're just supposed to take his word for it, comfortable with the knowledge that the plan will work.


But yesterday, the charade fell apart. Tax-policy experts whom Romney himself has described as "objective" and "non-partisan" ran the numbers exactly as the Republican candidate asked, using the parameters the Republican candidate created for himself.

And the results confirmed what has long been assumed: either Romney will grow the deficit dramatically or he'll have to raise taxes on 95% of the population in order to give new tax breaks to the rich.

There's no way around this; the arithmetic is stubborn.

Romney's numbers simply don't add up. Period. Full Stop.
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Re: Stretch
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2012, 11:19:37 AM »
Whoa, PEA BRAIN's breaking out his collection of charts again! :o

Which one of those graphs shows the impact of Willard's tax plan? I can't tell.



This coming from Mr. Cut and Paste himself. What are the chances of you ever arguing against the facts? or do you even understand what you post and what an ass it makes you look like?

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2012, 11:20:41 AM »
"The federal government has so many welfare programs that a top official of the Government Accountability Office couldn’t even provide a fixed number to a House oversight committee, nor would Patricia Dalton “hazard a guess” as to what percentage of these programs are accomplishing the purposes for which they were created. What is not in doubt is the increase in funding President Obama has requested for welfare — 42 percent over 2010 levels."

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« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2012, 11:21:46 AM »
Let's see if I can't help some of you sad losers out. Maybe get ya' back on topic and feeling good about yourselves.  :)


When a candidate's numbers don't add up
By Steve Benen
Thu Aug 2, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

We'll know more about the electoral impact as time progresses, but yesterday's independent analysis of Mitt Romney's tax plan changed the nature of the debate. Researchers at the Brookings Institution and the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center delivered the equivalent of an electoral bombshell: the Republican's proposal cuts taxes on the rich and pays for it by raising taxes on the middle class.

It took less than a day for President Obama's campaign team to turn the revelations into an ad.

The tagline is brutal: "Mitt Romney's middle class tax increase: He pays less, you pay more." According to a campaign source, the spot will air in New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada.

Not surprisingly, the Romney campaign is not pleased, and spent of yesterday afternoon attacking the report. Romney spokesman Ryan Williams said Americans should question the results because the Tax Policy Center scholars who conducted the research are "liberal."

There are a few problems with this. First, this isn't an argument. Second, the Romney campaign has previously said the Tax Policy Center is "objective" and "non-partisan." And third, one of the co-authors of the report is a Bush administration veteran.

When the "liberal" talking point failed miserably, the Romney campaign tried a new tack: the Brookings/TPC analysis is flawed because the economists failed to account for "dynamic" scoring. As the argument goes, the Romney plan will produce such extraordinary results, the economy will boom, and the numbers will add up if you account for the magical awesomeness.

But here's the thing: the researchers "bent over backwards to literally give Romney every possible benefit of the doubt" and worked under the dubious assumption that more Republican tax cuts will stimulate the economy. Brookings/TPC ran the numbers while playing by Republican rules and the results were still a disaster.

There's a larger arc to this story, and it's critically important.

When it comes to taxes, Romney is effectively making two points. The first is that he can offer a 20% across-the-board income tax rate cut, while also eliminating the estate tax on millionaires and billionaires, slashing corporate tax rates, and approving a capital-gains tax cut, too.

The second part of the argument sets the parameters of his promise: he can do all of this without raising the deficit or destroying basic American institutions, simply by eliminating various tax deductions and tax expenditures.

Which ones? We don't know; Romney refuses to say. We're just supposed to take his word for it, comfortable with the knowledge that the plan will work.


But yesterday, the charade fell apart. Tax-policy experts whom Romney himself has described as "objective" and "non-partisan" ran the numbers exactly as the Republican candidate asked, using the parameters the Republican candidate created for himself.

And the results confirmed what has long been assumed: either Romney will grow the deficit dramatically or he'll have to raise taxes on 95% of the population in order to give new tax breaks to the rich.

There's no way around this; the arithmetic is stubborn.

Romney's numbers simply don't add up. Period. Full Stop.


Post the link and I'm sure you'll see the source of your spin

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Re: Stretch
« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2012, 11:22:45 AM »
"The federal government has so many welfare programs that a top official of the Government Accountability Office couldn’t even provide a fixed number to a House oversight committee, nor would Patricia Dalton “hazard a guess” as to what percentage of these programs are accomplishing the purposes for which they were created. What is not in doubt is the increase in funding President Obama has requested for welfare — 42 percent over 2010 levels."
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