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[D_1000]

there's no snapping elbows in there is there?

You can't have a proper fail video without flying elbow parts.

[#1 Klaus fan]

His latest lifts - 200/248 kgs.
Koklyaev says that it is all politics.
But he looks like he is swimming in growth hormone for years, i think doping concerns not that groundless.

And he would have to have gym lifts of about 215+265 to have a tiny chance for 200+250 on platform. He has never lifted those kinds of numbers so the coaches being sceptical about his performance is acceptable. When your swimming in drugs (like you said), you better fucking deliver!

[chaos]

These are the elite strength athletes of the world in the Olympics. They are incredibly fast and powerful. You're living in a fantasy world praising the athletes of the TV show the World's Strongest Man.  Powerlifting is a joke today with the suits and the super shallow squats.

#1 Have you ever trained with strongman implements? I'm guessing no, it's no joke nor is it to be scoffed at.

#2 Plenty of powerlifting orgs have gone "raw", belt and MAYBE knee/wrist wraps, some belt only.

#3 You must be living in a delusional world were doing one lift good = "elite strength athletes of the world".

I like you oldtimer, but you're way off the mark here.

[Fortress]

#1 Have you ever trained with strongman implements? I'm guessing no, it's no joke nor is it to be scoffed at.

#2 Plenty of powerlifting orgs have gone "raw", belt and MAYBE knee/wrist wraps, some belt only.

#3 You must be living in a delusional world were doing one lift good = "elite strength athletes of the world".

I like you oldtimer, but you're way off the mark here.

No shit. His response to mine puts him in a very bad light concerning his opinions on matters of strength and power sports. He sounds like any typical doughboy off the street who doesn't even know the difference between the different disciplines. 

[#1 Klaus fan]

You can't define strongman. It's anything any one of us wants it to be. It's typically been more cardio than anything else.

[chaos]

No shit. His response to mine puts him in a very bad light concerning his opinions on matters of strength and power sports. He sounds like any typical doughboy off the street who doesn't even know the difference between the different disciplines. 

I believe he is "old school" and not very current with the different styles of lifting weights. I think he'll reexamine his opinion and come forth with a different outlook.

[Fortress]

You can't define strongman. It's anything any one of us wants it to be. It's typically been more cardio than anything else.

Wrong.

Strongman is a sport. We're not talking about strong men or a strong man, but strongman. Just like we're not talking about weight lifting, but rather, weightlifting, the sport.

It is rather easy to define strongman the sport. As easy as defining bodybuilding the sport (if you see it as such), and not weight/resistance training, the physical activity. One builds his body with exercises that encompass attributes of weight lifting, but few actually indulge in the sport of weightlifting.

And to figure strongman is primarily cardio is utter ignorance. It requires more than do the other "strength disciplines", yes, but extreme strength and power are maximally challenged.

Is Getbig home to an exceptionally large group of non-lifters and folks without an even rudimentary knowledge of resistance training and its varying branches of discipline? Sure seems like it a lot of the time.

[chaos]

Is Getbig home to an exceptionally large group of non-lifters and folks without an even rudimentary knowledge of resistance training and its varying branches of discipline? Sure seems like it a lot of the time.

You must be new here.

[Fortress]

You must be new here.

Not really. But it never ceases to amaze how generally ignorant so many here are when it comes to weight training, in general.

[chaos]

Not really. But it never ceases to amaze how generally ignorant so many here are when it comes to weight training, in general.

For serious weight lifting discussion head to the training board, we got a good group of guys there. Also the powerlifting/strongman board. They aren't super active but the discussions are enlightening and the posters serious about lifting.

Other than that, you'll get fuck all for any kind of weightlifting/training knowledge on the G&Schmoe.

[#1 Klaus fan]

Wrong.

Strongman is a sport. We're not talking about strong men or a strong man, but strongman. Just like we're not talking about weight lifting, but rather, weightlifting, the sport.

It is rather easy to define strongman the sport. As easy as defining bodybuilding the sport (if you see it as such), and not weight/resistance training, the physical activity. One builds his body with exercises that encompass attributes of weight lifting, but few actually indulge in the sport of weightlifting.

And to figure strongman is primarily cardio is utter ignorance. It requires more than do the other "strength disciplines", yes, but extreme strength and power are maximally challenged.

Is Getbig home to an exceptionally large group of non-lifters and folks without an even rudimentary knowledge of resistance training and its varying branches of discipline? Sure seems like it a lot of the time.

Ok, define it. What must happen in a strongman competition for it to be legit?

You see, you can nitpick about any sport. Weightlifters aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just powerful. Strongmen aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just fit. Powerlifters aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just good at moving weights in dynamic fashion and only in a couple of disciplines that are the 3 lifts. We all know real strength is the peak static strength, lasting from a nanosecond to a microsecond. Otherwise it's muscle endurance.  

[chaos]

Ok, define it. What must happen in a strongman competition for it to be legit?

Strongmen aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just fit.

WTF LOL!

What do you mean "legit"?

[#1 Klaus fan]

WTF LOL!

What do you mean "legit"?

Powerlifting is only legitimate if the 3 lifts take place, with 3 attempts in each. Weightlifting, 2 lifts, 3 attempts each. What about strongman? Define it.

[chaos]

Powerlifting is only legitimate if the 3 lifts take place, with 3 attempts in each. Weightlifting, 2 lifts, 3 attempts each. What about strongman? Define it.

Strongman is comprised of several different events and lifts, some of them timed, some of them max effort lifts. Max effort lifts are the only lifts were people will get 3 attempts to outlift other competitors. Other than max efforts, events will be times with all contestants using the same weight, fastest time wins.

Pretty simple.

[Fortress]

Ok, define it. What must happen in a strongman competition for it to be legit?

You see, you can nitpick about any sport. Weightlifters aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just powerful. Strongmen aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just fit. Powerlifters aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just good at moving weights in dynamic fashion and only in a couple of disciplines that are the 3 lifts. We all know real strength is the peak static strength, lasting from a nanosecond to a microsecond. Otherwise it's muscle endurance.  

I haven't the time nor inclination to debate with you when it's clear you're not of similar knowledge ... or reason.

Plus, as is, all my time would ultimately be spent correcting and educating.

Your above response is ridiculous.

[#1 Klaus fan]

There have been plenty of strongman competitions that have had no max effort lifts.

And that is still a wide definition. Pretty much that competitors compete against each other overcoming some kind of resistance, right?

[chaos]

Pretty much that competitors compete against each other overcoming some kind of resistance, right?

That could be any lifting competition. LOL

Not going to argue about competitions with no max effort lifts, most every one I have ever seen has one.
Even without a max effort lift, it's still pretty well defined.

Let me try a simpler explaination that may be easier for you to understand: Competitors must each lift a set weight with the object to be to lift said weight more times or for greater distance than the other competitors in a set amount of time.

Pretty simple huh?

[OneManGang]

Too much muscular endurance involved in strongman events. Carrying 2 kegs of beer for 2 minutes, is not strength but muscular endurance.

[falco]

Because strongman is a very different sport than weightlifting.

I mean, if world-class Olympic lifters jumped into strongman they'd be fucked, as well.

The best of the best become the best because they practice something very specific for a great many years.

Why do I need to write this?

Do it like your are adressing kindergarden

[chaos]

Too much muscular endurance involved in strongman events. Carrying 2 kegs of beer for 2 minutes, is not strength but muscular endurance.

Difference is most people don't have the strength to lift one keg, let alone carry two.

[Figo]

Strongman is

Strength

Power

Endurance

The carry, pull and drag events, most people wouldn't be able to pick up the carry object, and begin event, nevermind complete course in fastest time

First of all the competitors are huge super strong fuckers
Then they are able to utilize that strength in short bursts of power
Along with endurance to finish event quicker/longer than others



Can't believe its actually being debated

[MB]

If you combined strongman, powerlifting, & weightlifting events, the weightlifters would win that competition.  

[chaos]

If you combined strongman, powerlifting, & weightlifting events, the weightlifters would win that competition.  

lol

[Radical Plato]

Any man who can pull along a large US airforce plane as easily as this is a Strongman

[CalvinH]

Difference is most people don't have the strength to lift one keg, let alone carry two.

Why carry when you should be drinking the 2 kegs...