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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2012, 04:08:49 AM »
romney is fine with using obama quotes incorrectly when he quotes mccain, calling it 'persuasive art'.  They smirk about it.

Now, obama plays the same trick, and they can't stop crying into their tampon.   Cowboy up already, you do it too, you can't cry about it.

Welcome to the world of superPACs.  You wanted this, right?

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2012, 04:45:32 AM »
romney is fine with using obama quotes incorrectly when he quotes mccain, calling it 'persuasive art'.  They smirk about it.

Now, obama plays the same trick, and they can't stop crying into their tampon.   Cowboy up already, you do it too, you can't cry about it.

Welcome to the world of superPACs.  You wanted this, right?

Even everyone on Morning Joe agreed this is the low of the low and the Repubs have not run anything this disgusting and false. 

Typical though you approve of this since you are desperate for another term of obama and know he has nothing to run on whatsoever.   


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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2012, 05:07:09 AM »
So according to you then, it is perfectly reasonable for agents Zapata and agent Terry to blame. Obama for their sons deaths in fast n furious correct? 


In that logic, it would fall to Bush.  Fast and Furious was started during his administration.   

But my point is that he really thinks that Romney is responsible for the death of his wife.  Romney is going to have to deal with his tenure at Bain Capital, he simply can't hide behind it
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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2012, 05:09:06 AM »
This campaign is out of control.  What we're seeing is utter desperation.  I'm not even sure how they'll be able to deal with all this crap during the debates.  But that's probably part of the strategy.  Throw so much garbage out there that the opposition can't deal with all of it. 

New Obama super PAC cancer ad stretches truth: Will Obama renounce it?
Share posted at 2:21 pm on August 7, 2012
by Howard Portnoy

An earlier article in this space noted that pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action has released an outrageous ad that attempts to link Mitt Romney to the cancer death of a Kansas City resident. The woman who succumbed to that dread disease was the wife of a steelworker at a plant in the city that went bankrupt some years after it was acquired by Bain Capital.

The ad was a reach to start with. Romney was no longer running Bain when the company, GST Steel, filed Chapter 11. But it turns out the heartrending story in the ad plays fast and loose with the facts. (h/t reader letget).

The basic outlines of the narrative are accurate. Joe Soptic, the man the ad focuses on, was an employee of GST’s Kansas City plant. His claim that he and his family lost their health insurance when the plant closed seems plausible. It also factual that Soptic’s wife was diagnosed with stage-4 cancer, which ultimately caused her death.

But here is where the narrative runs afoul of the unvarnished truth. Soptic’s claim that his wife became ill “a short time after” the plant closed in 2002 and died “22 days later” does not comport with the facts.
As Alexander Burn writes at Politico:

A 2006 story in the Kansas City Star reported the death of Ranae Soptic, a former champion roller skater: ‘Soptic went to the hospital for pneumonia, but doctors found signs of very advanced cancer, and she died two weeks later on June 22.’

The woman’s death occurred four years after the plant was closed. It is possible that Soptic’s memory is faulty and that he simply misremembers the exact chronology of the events of that period. As Burns notes, “The lapse in time between the plant closing and Soptic’s death doesn’t mean the ad is invalid, but it raises questions about the cause and effect relationship here.”

Burns reached out to Bill Burton, Priorities USA strategist and a former Obama spokesman, about the seeming discrepancy. Burton responded:

We’re illustrating how long it took for communities and individuals to recover from the closing of these businesses. Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health insurance and a way to make up for the pensions they lost.

But it appears Burton’s “illustration” runs outside the lines. Will the Obama campaign renounce the ad?

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/08/07/new-obama-super-pac-cancer-ad-stretches-truth-will-obama-renounce-it/


Why does Obama need to renounce it???.....its not his ad.

It is however why we need to get rid of SuperPacs..they can basically attack without any care or concern
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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2012, 05:11:22 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/08/us/politics/ex-factory-worker-links-losses-to-bain.html?ref=politics


Even the NYT admits this ad is full of shit, but don't let that stop the 95ers, far leftist communists, obama cultists, lgbt crowd, and other fringe elements of society from eating these lies up like pie. 

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2012, 05:59:20 AM »
Meet the Real Workers Obama Screwed Over
 Townhall.com ^ | August 8, 2012 | Michelle Malkin


Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012



Chutzpah overload in full effect: President Obama's sleazy super-PAC, run by his former White House spokesman Bill Burton, just released an ad accusing GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney of causing the cancer death of a steelworker's wife.

It's not just a slanderous and false attack. It's a foolish attempt to camouflage the administration's massive jobs death toll, politicized pension plundering and Big Labor bailout cronyism. And it will backfire big time because the thousands and thousands of true victims of Obama's economic wreckage are speaking up and fighting back.

Let's dispense with the "Romney = murderer" meme first. The warped Priorities USA ad features the claims of one Joe Soptic, a former employee at the Kansas City-based GST Steel plant. The plant went bankrupt years after Bain Capital acquired it. Soptic blames Romney for the loss of his job and health insurance -- and for the subsequent death of his wife a "short time after" the plant's closure.

But Romney stopped working for Bain in 1999. The plant closed in 2001. And Soptic's wife died in 2006. Oh, and Soptic admitted to CNN on Tuesday afternoon that the family in fact had health insurance at the time of Soptic's wife's death. But it's still all-powerful, time-traveling, omnipresent Darth Romney's fault.

Obama flack turned super-PAC slime-master Burton shrugged off the facts and doubled down on the campaign's class-warfare bloviation. "Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health insurance and a way to make up for the pensions they lost," he told Politico. "Mitt Romney has had an enduring impact on the lives of thousands of men and women, and for many of them, that impact has been devastating."

Yet, the Soptic story is the best they could scrape together? Stamp this one "EPIC FAIL."

While Team Obama promotes fables to indict Romney, the incontrovertible stories of the current administration's economic malpractice are finally getting out. In 2010, I first reported on how Obama's UAW bailout threw tens of thousands of nonunion autoworkers under the bus. It's the ongoing horror story of some 20,000 white-collar workers at Delphi, a leading auto parts company spun off from GM a decade ago.

As Washington rushed to nationalize the U.S. auto industry with $80 billion in taxpayer "rescue" funds and avoid contested court termination proceedings, the White House auto team and the Treasury Department schemed with Big Labor bosses to preserve UAW members' costly pension funds by shafting their nonunion counterparts.

In addition, the nonunion pensioners lost all of their health and life insurance benefits. The abused workers -- most from hard-hit northeast Ohio, Michigan and neighboring states -- had devoted decades of their lives as secretaries, technicians, engineers and sales employees at Delphi/GM. Some workers have watched up to 70 percent of their pensions vanish.

"I worked for 34 years at GM/Delphi Corp. When Delphi went bankrupt, we lost everything," Dana Strickland of Michigan wrote me. "Because I was salaried (middle management), we lost our pension and health insurance. I did not belong to the union, so GM/Delphi could have cared less. I have never felt so betrayed. We never hear this brought to the public's attention. People need to know how we were screwed, while the Obama administration kissed up to the union."

"I'm one of the Delphi Salaried Retirees that lost the health care, life insurance and 67 percent of the pension I was promised in retirement after working hard for 40 years," Charles Stone of Michigan e-mailed. "Words cannot describe the frustration and let down these events have thrust on my family's lives, and to have GM's rescue all sugar-coated in the current political environment is like putting lipstick on a pig. ... We will continue to fight to right this grievous wrong."

Tom Rose of Ohio added: "I am one of the 20,000 salaried retirees that lost all of my health care and -- in my case -- a 40 percent pension cut. So I am now paying increased health care costs with fewer pension dollars and contributing what is left to our lawsuit to correct this injustice. Meanwhile, the politically connected union has their full pension and 90-plus percent of their health care. You have hit upon the key question: How can our own federal government pick winners and losers amongst its own citizens?"

Through two costly years of litigation and investigation, the Delphi workers have exposed how the stacked White House Auto Task Force schemed with union bosses to "cherry pick" (one Obama official's own words) which financial obligations the new Government Motors company would assume and which they would abandon based on their political expedience. Obama's own former auto czar Steve Rattner admitted in his recent memoir that "attacking the union's sacred cow" could "jeopardize" the auto bailout deal.

In June, 20 months after a federal judge first ordered the government to cooperate, the Delphi Salaried Retirees Association broke through the administration's information stonewall and dislodged 62,000 pages of documents in their lawsuit to right the administration's wrongs. As The Daily Caller reported on Tuesday, the documents included "internal government emails (that contradicted) sworn testimony, in federal court and before Congress, given by several Obama administration figures. They also indicate that the administration misled lawmakers and the courts ... and that administration figures violated federal law."

Meanwhile, the Delphi workers who got shafted are getting in the faces of the administration and the public with a new web ad produced by conservative advocacy group Let Freedom Ring. They are asking, "Why, Mr. President? Why?" They -- and America -- deserve answers and justice, not more Bizarro World smears and fantastical bedtime stories.

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2012, 06:02:59 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/08/us/politics/ex-factory-worker-links-losses-to-bain.html?ref=politics


Even the NYT admits this ad is full of shit, but don't let that stop the 95ers, far leftist communists, obama cultists, lgbt crowd, and other fringe elements of society from eating these lies up like pie. 


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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2012, 06:05:35 AM »


Tom Rose of Ohio added: "I am one of the 20,000 salaried retirees that lost all of my health care and -- in my case -- a 40 percent pension cut. So I am now paying increased health care costs with fewer pension dollars and contributing what is left to our lawsuit to correct this injustice. Meanwhile, the politically connected union has their full pension and 90-plus percent of their health care. You have hit upon the key question: How can our own federal government pick winners and losers amongst its own citizens?"



Obama looking out for the folks 

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2012, 06:16:51 AM »
Barack Obama is a Murderer
 Red State ^ | 8/8/2012 | Erick Erickson


Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012



The Obama supporting Super PAC Priorities USA yesterday introduced us to Joe Soptic. Mitt Romney killed his wife. Except it is complete and utter crap.

Mitt Romney and Bain Capital bought GST Steel at some point. Romney left day to day operations of Bain in 1999. Thereafter, Bain offered Joe Soptic a buy out and he refused. Eventually the steel plant went out of business and Joe went on the unemployment line. That happened in 2001.

In 2002 or 2003, Mrs. Soptic injured her rotator cuff and left her job. She lost her insurance. In 2006, she was diagnosed with cancer and died a few days later. It is a terrible tragedy that Mitt Romney had nothing to do with.

It seems Mr. Soptic chose poorly on the buy out offer, lost his job, and would prefer to blame Mitt Romney than anyone else. Priorities USA has set a new standard — Mitt Romney killed a woman, despite being removed from both time of death and decision making.

We need far less than the convoluted logic of Priorities USA to conclude that Barack Obama is a murderer.

He is covered in Brian Terry’s blood.

Brian Terry was a border patrol agent.

Barack Obama’s Administration — while Obama was serving as President — started Operation Fast and Furious. An American fire arms dealer, working with the Obama Administration, sold a fire arm to a Mexican gun runner who took the gun into Mexico to use in the ongoing drug/civil war.

That gun came back across the border in the hands of someone who used it to kill Brian Terry.

There is a much more direct link between Barack Obama and Brian Terry’s murder than between Mitt Romney and Ilyona Soptic’s death from cancer.

If we are playing by Priorities USA’s rules, from here on out we can refer to Barack Obama as a murderer, considering his administration made the decisions that led to Brian Terry’s murder at a time period when Barack Obama was still on the job.


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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #60 on: August 08, 2012, 11:47:00 AM »
http://nation.foxnews.com/political-ads/2012/08/07/dirty-pro-obama-ad-romney-killed-my-wife?cmpid=NL_FiredUpFoxNation
BUSTED 

I wonder how soon Fox will bust Romney for his completely 100% false ad regarding welfare

I assume it will be happnening any moment now

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #61 on: August 08, 2012, 11:50:05 AM »

Why does Obama need to renounce it???.....its not his ad.

It is however why we need to get rid of SuperPacs..they can basically attack without any care or concern

He needs to denounce it because it's false, unnecessary, and contrary to the kind of "change" he promised the American people.  And he definitely owns this. 


Obama campaign no stranger to steelworker in disputed ad
Published August 08, 2012
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The former Kansas City steelworker featured in a scathing ad tying his wife's death to Mitt Romney has appeared in Obama campaign videos before -- despite claims by a top Obama adviser Wednesday that he doesn't know "the specifics of this man's case" amid revelations that the ad is inaccurate and misleading.

. . . 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/08/steelworker-in-super-pac-ad-previously-appeared-in-obama-ads/

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #62 on: August 08, 2012, 11:53:49 AM »
I wonder how soon Fox will bust Romney for his completely 100% false ad regarding welfare

I assume it will be happnening any moment now

Bullshit.   Obama is lying about this too.   

http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/07/28/opinion/doc50148f3e9a46c758922983.txt


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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #63 on: August 08, 2012, 11:56:06 AM »
Obama campaign: Don't blame us for ad blaming Romney for cancer death
 Yahoo! News ^ | August. 8, 2012 | Olivier Knox


Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:51:02

President Barack Obama's reelection campaign distanced itself on Wednesday from a harsh—and misleading—ad that effectively ties Mitt Romney's business decisions to a woman's cancer death. But neither the campaign nor the White House passed judgment on the vicious commercial, which emerged from a super PAC backing Obama.

"We have nothing, no involvement, with any ads that are done by Priorities USA. We don't' have any knowledge of the story of the family," Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters aboard Air Force One.

"As you know, campaign finance rules in that regard are in place for a reason," she said, referring to laws forbidding outside groups from coordinating with the presidential campaigns.


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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #64 on: August 08, 2012, 12:20:27 PM »
Bullshit.   Obama is lying about this too.   
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/07/28/opinion/doc50148f3e9a46c758922983.txt

false once again

The very change that Obama made was requested by, among others, Republican Governors including one Willard M. Romney

Even the GOP architect of welfare reform has called Romney a liar for this ad:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/ron-haskins-welfare-reform-mitt-romney_n_1755653.html

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2012, 06:42:10 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-camp-denies-knowledge-cancer-tale-told-may-195237581.html


BUSTED. 

What a joke that they are using this guy to lie in order to prop up Thulsa Doom

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #67 on: August 09, 2012, 09:07:23 AM »
A Harsh Anti-Romney Ad Sparks Criticism (New! Soptic Chose Not to Insure Wife at Post-Steel Job)
 The Wall Street Journal ^ | Wednesday, August 8, 2012 | Peter Nicholas and Colleen McCain Nelson
 
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:30:42 PM by kristinn

...played a role in the death of Ilyona Soptic at age 55.

The ad features Joe Soptic, 62, of Missouri, who lost his job when GST Steel of Kansas City—owned by Bain and other investors for eight years—was closed. As melancholy music plays, Mr. Soptic says that when the plant closed, he and his family lost their health-care coverage and "a short time after that, my wife became ill." Her illness was diagnosed five years later. "I don't think Mitt Romney understands what he's done to people's lives by closing the plant," Mr. Soptic says in the ad.

The steel plant was purchased in 1993 and closed in 2001. Mr. Romney departed Bain in 1999 and had no role in the decision to close the plant, his campaign said.

In an interview, Mr. Soptic said he thought the ad was fair. But he also said of Mr. Romney: "I'm not blaming him for her death. I wouldn't do that."

Mr. Soptic said that his wife was receiving health insurance through her employer at the time he lost his job at GST Steel, though she later suffered an injury, left her job and lost her insurance coverage. He could not say precisely when this occurred.

Mr. Soptic said that after he lost his job, he found work as a school custodian about six months later and had the option to put her on his insurance plan. But he opted not to, he said, because he could not afford the more than $350 monthly premium on the $25,000 salary he was making, on top of paying his mortgage and a daughter's college tuition. Ilyona Soptic was diagnosed with cancer in 2006 and died that year.


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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #68 on: August 09, 2012, 10:12:16 AM »
President Pays Price for Acrid Campaign Culture
 

By Chris Stirewalt
 
Power Play
 
Published August 09, 2012
 
FoxNews.com
 




"If [then-Obama communications director] Robert Gibbs started running a [independent political expenditure group] and I called Robert Gibbs and said, 'Stop running ads on my behalf,' are you suggesting I would have no influence over Robert Gibbs?"
 
-- Then Sen. Barack Obama, as quoted by Politico, in West Des Moines, Iowa in December of 2007 attacking opponent John Edwards for negative ads being run by an outside group run by a former Edwards aide.

 
President Obama is now starting to pay the price for his intensely negative, very personal campaign against soon-to-be Republican nominee Mitt Romney.
 
On Monday, Power Play predicted that the intense personal animus that Obama had for Romney as described in a forthcoming Politico book could cause serious trouble for Obama's campaign. The danger when the man or woman at the top really despises his opponent is that underlings will go too far in their attacks.
 
On Tuesday, the Obama-backed political action committee unleashed the nastiest ad of the presidential contest so far. The group, Priorities USA, is led by a former top Obama aide, has the president's blessing and has received fundraising help from top Obama deputies, including his campaign manager.
 
The new ad stars a steelworker from Obama's first attack ad of the general election, which accused Romney of being a "vampire" because of the shuttering of a steel mill in Kansas City. The PAC ad picks up the story of the steelworker after the closure and lays the blame at Romney's feet for his wife's death from cancer five years later because their health insurance had been disrupted.
 
The Obama-backed group can't coordinate with the campaign, but it can use the campaign's work. In this case, the campaign had already known about the cancer story since the steelworker, Joe Soptic, had already told the tale on a conference call with reporters when the Obama ad first ran back in May.
 
Obama's campaign knew that its opening attack on Romney would be heavily scrutinized. The highly negative and personal nature of Obama's campaign has raised eyebrows even among the most docile members of the media. The campaign also knew that the ad tugged at the truth a bit. Romney had left the firm when the plant closed, the intervention had preserved many jobs for several years, etc.
 
But they could walk that line and survive, given the low standards for veracity in campaign ads. Accusing Romney, with several more leaps in logic, of killing a man's wife, though, was too much for the campaign of a sitting president, even one that has decided to be nasty.
 
But for what is now called a "super PAC," groups that Obama once called "shadowy" but subsequently embraced in his bid to win a second term, perhaps the consequences would not be so bad.
 
The Obama-backed Obama backers at Priorities USA thought they were doing a favor for the president: going where he couldn't go. And given what Obama has said about Romney and the months of character attacks on the Republican, they certainly had every reason to think that the president would be pleased that they had found an even uglier way to go after Romney.
 
Henry II asked, "Will no one rid me of the pestilent priest?" and some enterprising knights offed Thomas Becket. Obama's campaign called Romney a possible felon and a vampire, and his former aides decided to go all the way and call him a murderer.
 
The Obama-backed group picked up the cancer story and ran with it. Using the campaign's legwork, Priorities USA put together an ad so nasty and so tendentious that even Democrats feel obliged to disown it.
 
The standard defense in politics when someone does something bad on your behalf is to, at least at first, deny knowledge or involvement and then throw your hands up at the way the political system works.
 
Obama surrogates tried that on Wednesday, saying they had no knowledge of the story and washed their hands of the ad. And in true political PR fashion, made the pivot to say that while they didn't know anything about the ad, it was true that Romney didn't care about workers having health insurance.
 
But the campaign did know the story, because they had told it first, just not through a television bullhorn.
 
The Pontius Pilate defense did not work because Priorities USA had so carefully hewed to the original Obama attack -- the same steelworker, the same story -- that there was no plausible deniability.
 
Now, Obama finds himself with his campaign having been caught feigning ignorance about an unsavory ad produced by an organization he supports. For a sitting president whose pitch is so tied to reforming politics that he forgot to take a lamentation of "super PACs" out of his stump speech amid the controversy on Wednesday, this is not a good situation.
 
Back when he was an underdog, Obama would have seized on such a blunder by an opponent's organization, and he did. Obama scoffed at notions of invisible walls between campaigns and outside groups and demanded that his opponents denounce the nasty tactics of their former aides.
 
Romney's campaign didn't pounce as quickly as Obama would have in 2008, first adopting a defensive crouch and insisting that had the woman lived in Massachusetts she would have been covered under Romney's 2007 health law.
 
But other Republicans got their indignation engines fired up and are prodding the political press to look at the chasm between what Obama has said about these kinds of attacks and what he is doing now. And Team Romney now seems to be moving from defense to offense on the subject.
 
Obama may yet be forced to denounce the ad. And if he does, he will have himself to blame because it was he who fostered the toxic attitudes toward his opponent inside Obamaland.
 
Chris Stirewalt is digital politics editor for Fox News, and his POWER PLAY column appears Monday-Friday on FoxNews.com.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/09/president-pays-price-for-acrid-campaign-culture/#ixzz234OddHIt


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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #69 on: August 09, 2012, 10:13:25 AM »
youre complaining about broken 2007 campaign promises regarding hypotheticals?

lmao...   maybe you have something 5 more years recent to complain about?  Or are obama's current actions too identical to those of romney?? 

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #70 on: August 09, 2012, 10:15:39 AM »
youre complaining about broken 2007 campaign promises regarding hypotheticals?

lmao...   maybe you have something 5 more years recent to complain about?  Or are obama's current actions too identical to those of romney?? 


Funny - since when people bring up things your gay messiah does right now you kneepad that too. 

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2012, 10:16:45 AM »

Funny - since when people bring up things your gay messiah does right now you kneepad that too. 

are you a homophobe, 333386??

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #72 on: August 09, 2012, 10:19:31 AM »
are you a homophobe, 333386??


Most of the time.   Most gay people disgust me w their behavior. 

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #73 on: August 09, 2012, 10:25:56 AM »
Most of the time.   Most gay people disgust me w their behavior. 

See, I'm not a fan of public displays of sex/making out, but it's not just gay stuff.  I dont want to see two teenagers giving each other hickeys on the playground either, ya know?   

I dont care if people do what their bodies tell them is right.  But then again, I dont feel the govt should invade the personal rights of individuals.   Gun bans, socialized medicine, anti-gay marriage stuff... that's representative of the romney platform a government that doesn't respect the Constitution.

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Re: Obama SuperPac accusing Romney of almost murder in new ad.
« Reply #74 on: August 09, 2012, 10:38:40 AM »
Bill Burton: We Completely Stand By Our Romney 'Cancer' Ad
 Townhall.com ^ | August 9, 2012 | Guy Benson


Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:30:47

Greg pulled the clip last night and Allahpundit wrote it up, but it's worth revisiting for a few reasons.  I'll let AP set the stage:
   


The first 3:45 is just background stuff, so feel free to skip it, and (b) the rest of it represents quite possibly the most sustained bout of skepticism on cable TV towards an Obama mouthpiece that Team Hopenchange has had to endure in four years. If you can’t watch it all, just watch Burton for two or three minutes starting at 4:15.


 The Obama campaign has been shamelessly lying its collective ass off about this ad, so why not allow Obama's SuperPAC mouthpiece to insult your intelligence for a few minutes?  This is surreal:
 

Obama's Super PAC Founder: Our Ad In No Way Suggests Romney Responsible For Woman's Cancer



 I could barely stomach this clip, to be honest, but I'm glad I persevered because we learned a thing or two during the interview: (1) Some MSM figures can at least feign genuine disgust with the HopenChange Brigade.  All three CNN correspondents seemed truly put off by the stench of what Burton was shoveling.  (2) Obama's SuperPAC is so proud of the ad that they're airing it in swing states, as part of a $20 million buy.  (3) This spot is merely one in "a series of ads," meaning that the worst may still be yet to come.  (4) Obamaworld not only has no regard for the truth, they also harbor precious little respect for your intelligence.  It was astounding to watch Burton claim that this ad in no way attempts to link Romney to this woman's death.  That "reality," Burton helpfully explained, is "clearly lost on some folks."  And by "some folks" he means "every single person who isn't a paid hack."  Go back and watch the clip.  The whole point is to tie Romney to this tragedy and heavily imply that he was responsible by obscuring the timeline.  Burton insists that the timeline isn't pertinent.  The man's sleaze virtually drips off the screen with every word, especially when he openly laughs at the CNN crew for pointing out the obvious.  Allahpundit notices that without the disgusting implication of Romney's culpability in Mrs. Soptic's demise, the ad has...no point at all:
 


 The amazing thing is that the spot is completely devoid of any actual point or argument. The closest it comes is suggesting that layoffs are always unconscionable because people depend on the insurance they get from their jobs. But Burton can’t argue that; Obama has enough problems with business that he can’t afford to flirt with “only monsters lay people off” demagoguery. So he’s left here arguing … nothing. Really.


 Let's recap: The Obama campaign knows nothing about a man whose personal story they've recounted in their own ads and featured on a conference call.  Also, a commercial clearly designed to link Romney to a woman's cancer-related death through grotesque innuendo was actually doing nothing of the sort, despite what the pro-Rommey paranoiacs at CNN and MSNBC (!) seem to think. These people continue to out-do themselves.  Three parting thoughts:

(1) Since Burton still remains deliberately unfamiliar with Romney's effective departure date from Bain Capital (February 1999, according to everyone except Obamaphiles), how would he explain the fact that Soptic's layoff  -- which was delayed by eight years by Bain's attempt to save the failing company -- occurred when a top Obama donor was actively managing the company?  Since Jonahthan Lavine closed the GST factory, made money for himself, then donated to Barack Obama years later, is Obama complicit in Soptic's wife's death via the blood money, or whatever?  Oh right, I forgot.  They're not blaming anyone for that tragedy.  They're just describing it in excriciating (and incomplete) detail in a television ad, the entire purpose of which is to attack Romney.  My mistake.

(2) In the original ad, Soptic says he believes Romney "isn't concerned" about the pain he, ahem, "caused" -- including the death of Soptic's wife, which was the theme of the ad.  Even if you take Burton at his word that Priorities USA had no intention of tying Romney to her death (and I absolutely do not), isn't the assertion that Romney doesn't even care about that tragic outcome complete conjecture?  This is vile.

(3) The top three arguments Democrats have advanced against Mitt Romney over the last few months are that he outsourced American jobs at Bain Capital ("no evidence" - FactCheck.org), that he's a tax cheat ("Four Pinocchios" - Washington Post), and that his heartless actions led to a poor woman's death ("outrageous" - CNN).  As the links demonstrate, each one of these attacks has been a wholly inaccurate smears.  Since they continue to lie, why should any voter believe a word Team Obama says about anything -- and isn't the fact that they're forced to invent these smears evidence of Romney's laudable character and actual record?