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Vice-presidential candidate denies he profited from a 2008 meeting with Fed chairman in which officials outlined fears for financial crisis



Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney's vice-presidential running mate, sold stock in US banks on the same day he attended a confidential meeting where top level officials disclosed the sector was heading for a deep crisis.

The congressman on Monday denied profiting from information gleaned from the meeting on 18 September 2008 when Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke, then treasury secretary Hank Paulson and others outlined their fears for the banking sector. His office said he had no control over the trades.

Public records show that on the same day as the meeting, Ryan sold stock in troubled banks including Wachovia and Citigroup and bought shares in Goldman Sachs, Paulson's old employer and a bank that had been disclosed to be stronger than many of its rivals. The sale was not illegal at the time.

Not long after the meeting, Wachovia's already troubled share price went into free fall. It plunged 39% on the afternoon of 26 September alone as investors worried the bank would collapse. It was eventually taken over by Wells Fargo for $15bn, a fraction of its former value.

Citigroup's share price fell soon after the meeting. In October 2008 Citigroup was among the largest beneficiary of the troubled asset relief program (Tarp), the taxpayer-funded bailout of the banking sector.

Ryan was a supporter of the Tarp bailout – a position that has put him at odds with the right wing of his party despite his otherwise conservative credentials. Goldman Sachs and Wells Fargo are now among his largest financial supporters, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

The trades were highlighted at the weekend by the Richmonder, a left-leaning political blog in Virginia.

After the story was picked up by the media on Monday, the Romney campaign moved to deny it. Talking Points Memo quoted Larry Gaffney, an independent accountant for the partnership that handled the trades questioned by commentators, said the shares were not controlled by Ryan.

"Trades are done automatically based on an algorithm on a regular basis," said Gaffney, in a statement to TPM that was provided by the Romney campaign. "In addition, this index was held at the time within a partnership in which Rep. Ryan had and continues to have no trading authority."

Until this year members of Congress were allowed to trade on price-sensitive information gathered at Washington meetings. Nor is Ryan alone in having done so. CBS's 60 Minutes criticised Democrat Nancy Pelosi for buying into Visa's initial public offering as the House discussed credit card legislation.

After the CBS documentary, pressure mounted for change. In April, Barack Obama signed legislation that bars members of Congress and other federal workers from profiting from non-public information learned on the job. As well as banning insider trading the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge (Stock) Act requires members of Congress to post details of transactions exceeding $1,000.

In April the Office of Congressional Ethics cleared Spencer Bachus, Republican chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, of allegations of insider dealing. Critics had charged he had taken advantage of insider information to trade shares on numerous occasions.

Bachus was present at the meeting that Ryan attended with Bernanke and Paulson. The next day he traded "short" options, betting on a decline in share prices in the financial services sector.

Attendees at the meeting have said Bernanke and Paulson's warnings were met with stunned silence. "When you listened to him describe it you gulped," Senator Charles Schumer told the New York Times.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 09:43:29 AM »
Definitely not a man of the people.  Just more bullshit.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 09:50:17 AM »
Vice-presidential candidate denies he profited from a 2008 meeting with Fed chairman in which officials outlined fears for financial crisis



Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney's vice-presidential running mate, sold stock in US banks on the same day he attended a confidential meeting where top level officials disclosed the sector was heading for a deep crisis.

The congressman on Monday denied profiting from information gleaned from the meeting on 18 September 2008 when Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke, then treasury secretary Hank Paulson and others outlined their fears for the banking sector. His office said he had no control over the trades.

Public records show that on the same day as the meeting, Ryan sold stock in troubled banks including Wachovia and Citigroup and bought shares in Goldman Sachs, Paulson's old employer and a bank that had been disclosed to be stronger than many of its rivals. The sale was not illegal at the time.

Not long after the meeting, Wachovia's already troubled share price went into free fall. It plunged 39% on the afternoon of 26 September alone as investors worried the bank would collapse. It was eventually taken over by Wells Fargo for $15bn, a fraction of its former value.

Citigroup's share price fell soon after the meeting. In October 2008 Citigroup was among the largest beneficiary of the troubled asset relief program (Tarp), the taxpayer-funded bailout of the banking sector.

Ryan was a supporter of the Tarp bailout – a position that has put him at odds with the right wing of his party despite his otherwise conservative credentials. Goldman Sachs and Wells Fargo are now among his largest financial supporters, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

The trades were highlighted at the weekend by the Richmonder, a left-leaning political blog in Virginia.

After the story was picked up by the media on Monday, the Romney campaign moved to deny it. Talking Points Memo quoted Larry Gaffney, an independent accountant for the partnership that handled the trades questioned by commentators, said the shares were not controlled by Ryan.

"Trades are done automatically based on an algorithm on a regular basis," said Gaffney, in a statement to TPM that was provided by the Romney campaign. "In addition, this index was held at the time within a partnership in which Rep. Ryan had and continues to have no trading authority."

Until this year members of Congress were allowed to trade on price-sensitive information gathered at Washington meetings. Nor is Ryan alone in having done so. CBS's 60 Minutes criticised Democrat Nancy Pelosi for buying into Visa's initial public offering as the House discussed credit card legislation.

After the CBS documentary, pressure mounted for change. In April, Barack Obama signed legislation that bars members of Congress and other federal workers from profiting from non-public information learned on the job. As well as banning insider trading the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge (Stock) Act requires members of Congress to post details of transactions exceeding $1,000.

In April the Office of Congressional Ethics cleared Spencer Bachus, Republican chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, of allegations of insider dealing. Critics had charged he had taken advantage of insider information to trade shares on numerous occasions.

Bachus was present at the meeting that Ryan attended with Bernanke and Paulson. The next day he traded "short" options, betting on a decline in share prices in the financial services sector.

Attendees at the meeting have said Bernanke and Paulson's warnings were met with stunned silence. "When you listened to him describe it you gulped," Senator Charles Schumer told the New York Times.
??? guy reminds me of this guy. same look in his eye.
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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 10:00:16 AM »
Seriously??!

Have you educated yourself on the questionable transactions made by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Christopher Dodd, Barney Frank, and yes, even the savior himself, Barrack Obama??
(Let me know if not so I can)

It never ceases to amaze me how the left, inclusive of the media of course, must resort to personal and often unfounded tales, if not blatant lies, to smear the right. The sad truth is, this is  because their record while in power doesn't have a proverbial leg to stand on.  Or perhaps in simpler terms you might understand, Obama and the Dems have been complete and utter failures during their time at the helm.  

All I can say is I hope you don't have children, because their futures aren't looking to bright if we continue down this road of absolute fiscal irresponsibility!

So please, bring on your blame Bush tactics one by one and what Obama has done for the betterment of the country, as I would relish the opportunity to rebuke each and every one!  

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 10:08:05 AM »
Location: UK  ???

Is that a mistake Raymondo, or do actually live in the UK and not the US??

BTW, congrats on the Olympics!

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 10:09:23 AM »
no, it's not a mistake, trojan horse

and what gives you the idea you can address me directly in the first place?

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 10:11:15 AM »
Location: UK  ???

Is that a mistake Raymondo, or do actually live in the UK and not the US??

BTW, congrats on the Olympics!

Raymondo is a concept.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 10:13:47 AM »
LOL!!  First of all, I can address anyone I choose in a public forum...and after all, isn't that what you wanted when you expressed your opinion in the first place, or did you want to limit the responses to only those that agree with you??

Secondly, until you live under the leadership, or complete lack-there-of, of our current administration, your opinions are worthless!  

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 10:13:58 AM »
Kinda like Hilary Clinton making that sweet 100k through insightful stock trading. Rich people cheat the system. Nothing new, here.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 10:19:14 AM »
Kinda like Hilary Clinton making that sweet 100k through insightful stock trading. Rich people cheat the system. Nothing new, here.
This.
Pretty sure it was done through a legal loophole as well.
Wrong, probably, but not illegal.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2012, 10:19:20 AM »
Only rich people...I think there is plenty of cheating occurring under the guise of welfare, medicaid, unemployment, social security, etc.   Just sayin....

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2012, 10:20:41 AM »
Politics is completely rigged.  Doesn't matter who you vote for, the same system stays in place.  They want to make you believe you have a "choice" when in reality there is NO choice.  Presidential candidates are hand picked, they always were.  Don't vote.  Politicians are all bought and paid for... ignore all of them.
 
Spend your precious time getting ready for the coming collapse and the next US revolution.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2012, 10:21:02 AM »
Only rich people...I think there is plenty of cheating occurring under the guise of welfare, medicaid, unemployment, social security, etc.   Just sayin....
Yup.
Everyone uses every loophole they can for more money. Nothing knew.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2012, 10:22:03 AM »
Kinda like Hilary Clinton making that sweet 100k through insightful stock trading. Rich people cheat the system. Nothing new, here.

Except Martha Stewart........some dumb bitch has to be a scapegoat sooner or later.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2012, 10:23:47 AM »
Except Martha Stewart........some dumb bitch has to be a scapegoat sooner or later.
Her Truffled Cream Puff recipe alone exonerates her of any wrong doing in my book.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2012, 10:24:00 AM »
And by the way, since when has America become a society of envy and contempt towards the successful/wealthy?  
All I know is I can't remember anyone I know ever being employed by a poor person...

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2012, 10:25:03 AM »
Her Truffled Cream Puff recipe alone exonerates her of any wrong doing in my book.

Off to Google "Truffled Cream Puff recipe"....... ;D

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2012, 10:26:19 AM »
Off to Google "Truffled Cream Puff recipe"....... ;D
perfect!!  lol

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2012, 10:27:29 AM »
Vice-presidential candidate denies he profited from a 2008 meeting with Fed chairman in which officials outlined fears for financial crisis

PROBLEM.

It was perfectly legal for him to buy these stocks.  At the time, this loophole was available, and a reason many in congress are filthy rich.

HOWEVER - LYING about it - that's some f'cked up stuff right there.  Just admit "It was legal, and I made a trade to make profit".  And move on.

Now, I'm aware that this very qualified person, very bright and conservative - is a bag of shit liar.  Super.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2012, 10:28:29 AM »
PROBLEM.

It was perfectly legal for him to buy these stocks.  At the time, this loophole was available, and a reason many in congress are filthy rich.

HOWEVER - LYING about it - that's some f'cked up stuff right there.  Just admit "It was legal, and I made a trade to make profit".  And move on.

Now, I'm aware that this very qualified person, very bright and conservative - is a bag of shit liar.  Super.

Oprah Winfrey is the devil....... ;D

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2012, 10:29:36 AM »
Trojan Homo sounds like the kind of guy who buys a metal detector and spends the first hour pulling gold soveriegn rings out of his rectum that were lost during past games of 'guess my organs'

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2012, 10:29:42 AM »
Politics is completely rigged.  Doesn't matter who you vote for, the same system stays in place.  They want to make you believe you have a "choice" when in reality there is NO choice.  Presidential candidates are hand picked, they always were.  Don't vote.  Politicians are all bought and paid for... ignore all of them.
 
Spend your precious time getting ready for the coming collapse and the next US revolution.


This!!!!

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2012, 10:34:08 AM »
Trojan Homo sounds like the kind of guy who buys a metal detector and spends the first hour pulling gold soveriegn rings out of his rectum that were lost during past games of 'guess my organs'
WOW!!!  All I can say is you win!!  That is the most intelligent comment I've heard all day....  
BTW, completely secure in my sexuality, as are my wife and kids, but comments like yous lead me to believe there is more that lies beneath the surface in your case...as my 10 year olds often say, he who "smellt" it dealt it!  LOL!!!!

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2012, 10:38:01 AM »
oh, here we go again...........

Too much fucking information.

We had to know that Romney cut some kid's hair.

Now we need to know that Ryan sold some bank stocks.

I guess we'll keep the Indonisian/Kenyan to destroy our economy.  At least we'll feel good about ourselves while he takes us all to the cleaners.