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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #75 on: August 14, 2012, 12:07:01 PM »
Oh, I can see there is plenty of rhetoric from each side...but I cant say that I have heard murderous accusations by conservatives, much less AM radio...have you?  I worked in DC  in the Senate and on a Senatorial campaign here in CA, and am well aware of the lengths gone to for the sake of a particular candidate's victory first hand, and I have never claimed the right is as pure as the driven snow, but the utter lies and personal attacks spewed by this administration's campaign and its cronies, i.e. Harry Reid, are abysmal, and a new low even in modern politics.

Political campaigns are definitely vile affairs, and I'm glad that you agree on the fact that rhetoric exists all around; that does indeed put you into a higher bracket than most.  Hell, I was able to work on drafting some legislation in CA several years back and dealt with a lobbyist, and even that was amazing as to how little discussion actually involves the draft content.  Making sausages, you know...but I digress.  Reid has overstepped the boundary on more than one occasion, though unfortunately the Romney tax story is mostly just hard-assed politics in this day and age.  I'm not an Obama fan but it's hard not to qualify much of the stories that are radio-driven - you know the ones, that involve some sort of twist involving a no-name guy who has a book coming out who does an interview and tells an unsupported anecdote about one of Obama's distant cousins overseas that supposedly sheds light on Obama's "true" (ie. ulterior, conspiratorial) motivations, or the usual racial, religious, citizenship blasts as yellow "journalism" at its worst.  And I'm willing to bet there are a number of stories alleging complicity in murder, lol.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #76 on: August 14, 2012, 12:12:28 PM »
Political campaigns are definitely vile affairs, and I'm glad that you agree on the fact that rhetoric exists all around; that does indeed put you into a higher bracket than most.  Hell, I was able to work on drafting some legislation in CA several years back and dealt with a lobbyist, and even that was amazing as to how little discussion actually involves the draft content.  Making sausages, you know...but I digress.  Reid has overstepped the boundary on more than one occasion, though unfortunately the Romney tax story is mostly just hard-assed politics in this day and age.  I'm not an Obama fan but it's hard not to qualify much of the stories that are radio-driven - you know the ones, that involve some sort of twist involving a no-name guy who has a book coming out who does an interview and tells an unsupported anecdote about one of Obama's distant cousins overseas that supposedly sheds light on Obama's "true" (ie. ulterior, conspiratorial) motivations, or the usual racial, religious, citizenship blasts as yellow "journalism" at its worst.  And I'm willing to bet there are a number of stories alleging complicity in murder, lol.
The only difference being,  these authors and radio hosts are not representing themselves as journalists, unlike those whom, with blatant disregard for truth and source, move forward to "report" these undeniably biased accusations as if they deserve to be considered as fact...

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #77 on: August 14, 2012, 12:13:25 PM »
Yep I certainly would rather have a National Health System/Single Payer system set up.  I worked with "trained private sector Professionals" at United Healthcare and it was anything but true.  The computer systems we were using were so outdated-DOS based it was a joke.  Customers were not to be treated as human being, but as metrics and numbers.  You weren`t allowed to care that we weren`t going to pay for your cancer treatments because your coverage stopped at a capped amount.  I am sure I am responsible for people dying due to my work there.  I think about it everyday and it makes me sick.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #78 on: August 14, 2012, 12:15:09 PM »
In his first four years as President, President Obama has worked to build a foundation to make America strong for the long run.

Electing Mitt Romney would destroy that foundation and revert back to the Bush era, the era in which caused The Great Recession and the problems we face today.



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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #79 on: August 14, 2012, 12:17:42 PM »
Yep I certainly would rather have a National Health System/Single Payer system set up.  I worked with "trained private sector Professionals" at United Healthcare and it was anything but true.  The computer systems we were using were so outdated-DOS based it was a joke.  Customers were not to be treated as human being, but as metrics and numbers.  You weren`t allowed to care that we weren`t going to pay for your cancer treatments because your coverage stopped at a capped amount.  I am sure I am responsible for people dying due to my work there.  I think about it everyday and it makes me sick.
I respect your opinion, as it seems you have basis for your opinion and can discuss it rationally, unlike many here.  And FYI, I also work in healthcare, but not for an insurance company, but with those benefiting from their private insurance.

Thanks for remaining civil!

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #80 on: August 14, 2012, 12:22:14 PM »
I hope he ends medicare.  Money is forced out of my check for medicare even though I don't use it.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #81 on: August 14, 2012, 12:24:52 PM »
In his first four years as President, President Obama has worked to build a foundation to make America strong for the long run.

Electing Mitt Romney would destroy that foundation and revert back to the Bush era, the era in which caused The Great Recession and the problems we face today.





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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #82 on: August 14, 2012, 12:26:32 PM »
I hope he ends medicare.  Money is forced out of my check for medicare even though I don't use it.

Possibly... but you may in the future... It's like insurance in some ways.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #83 on: August 14, 2012, 12:30:43 PM »
I respect your opinion, as it seems you have basis for your opinion and can discuss it rationally, unlike many here.  And FYI, I also work in healthcare, but not for an insurance company, but with those benefiting from their private insurance.

Thanks for remaining civil!
I think a National Health System/Single Payer which covers everybody and an option to purchase additional Private Insurance (not that it would be needed)/Private Network of Hospitals and Doctors would be sufficient.  Tying employment to healthcare and shackling the middle man Insurance Companies to individuals has been nothing but a disaster from a utilitarian standpoint as well as from a Financial one.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #84 on: August 14, 2012, 12:32:31 PM »
If R&R win, in 4 years the gap in wealth between the rich and poor will grow beyong belief.  It would be so huge that the whole economy will perish

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #85 on: August 14, 2012, 12:35:18 PM »
If R&R win, in 4 years the gap in wealth between the rich and poor will grow beyong belief.  It would be so huge that the whole economy will perish
I doubt that would happen.  They don`t really have that much power.  There are so many causes to income disparity that to affix it to one Presidential election would not make any sense.

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #86 on: August 14, 2012, 01:04:29 PM »
I hope he ends medicare.  Money is forced out of my check for medicare even though I don't use it.

Assuming to don't make it to age 65, you never will.

But you'd better watch out if you make it to 65, because eventually, we'll all get sick (to some extent) & die.



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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #87 on: August 14, 2012, 01:05:34 PM »
Obamacare is an entitlement to Insurance Companies, not to the people.  We are not that lucky enough to join the rest of the world in a National Health System/Single Payer.

There is also no evidence that the Republicans want to stop entitlements to Insurance Companies when it comes to Healthcare.  In the end, when it comes to healthcare, both parties seek to leave the people high and dry.

Gifting free health insurance to millions is called an entitlement, even though the insurance co's get new customers.

We're paying for it.



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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #88 on: August 14, 2012, 02:21:04 PM »
Gifting free health insurance to millions is called an entitlement, even though the insurance co's get new customers.
We're paying for it.

After the Rainbow PUSH forum, however, Marcy Bailey and her coworkers were moved into a back room for a private meeting with Jesse Jackson Sr. , and Rainbow PUSH organizer Rev. Janet Wilson, where Bailey said they received “job coaching.”

“Jesse Jackson Sr. said to work hard to help as many students as possible acquire student loans. Jackson Sr. encouraged us to network students, hold rallies and organize for "student loan forgiveness legislation", Marcy Bailey wrote in her affidavit. Jesse Jackson Sr. also told us not to worry about loading students up with too much college debt, because Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats will eventually forgive all student loan debt. On the promise of debt forgiveness, ‘those people will continue to vote Democratic.’

http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/14/whistle-blower-documents-ill-state-workers-forced-to-attend-pelosi-jesse-jackson-jr-event-on-taxpayer-dime/

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Re: Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
« Reply #89 on: August 15, 2012, 02:05:13 AM »
And by the way, since when has America become a society of envy and contempt towards the successful/wealthy?  
All I know is I can't remember anyone I know ever being employed by a poor person...

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