The "Vast Difference" Between Obama & Paul Ryan

[howardroark]

But Paul Ryan is a radical... 

[whork]

But Paul Ryan is a radical... 

So you point is Ryan is gonna make it tougher on the middle class and make the ultra rich richer and the difference is app 3 trillion$?

[tonymctones]

So you point is Ryan is gonna make it tougher on the middle class and make the ultra rich richer and the difference is app 3 trillion$?

what makes you think that?

you know obamas tax plan will cut 700K jobs from the US, right?

you know obama has implemented many middle class tax hikes through obamacare, right?

so tell us how ryan is going to make it harder on the middle class?

[blacken700]

So you point is Ryan is gonna make it tougher on the middle class and make the ultra rich richer and the difference is app 3 trillion$?

sounds about right

[Fury]

sounds about right

Not even 8 AM EST and you have nothing better to do than talk to yourself. 

[whork]

what makes you think that?

you know obamas tax plan will cut 700K jobs from the US, right?

you know obama has implemented many middle class tax hikes through obamacare, right?

so tell us how ryan is going to make it harder on the middle class?

I dont know anybody who's taxes has been raised.

And even if they did we got 30 million people insured so..

Unlike the shit the GOP uses its money on, tax breaks for the wealthy, wars etc etc..

[whork]

Not even 8 AM EST and you have nothing better to do than talk to yourself. 

NO thats your job

[240 is Back]

Wow.... when we compared palin and obama, the classic get response was "She's running for veep, this comparison is irrelevant", remember? 

[Fury]

Wow.... when we compared palin and obama, the classic get response was "She's running for veep, this comparison is irrelevant", remember? 

So you'll log as many posts defending Ryan as you do Obama, right? I won't hold my breath.

[240 is Back]

So you'll log as many posts defending Ryan as you do Obama, right? I won't hold my breath.

I think Ryan would be a great president.  You can ask me anything about Ryan, i'll give my opinion. 

I believe obama was born in a foreign country and is pres illegally.
I believe Ryan actually has the legal right to be president.

Ryan has been a 'yes man' in congress - supported all the shit the repub president told him to support.  he's a brown noser, but that's what it takes to become the squeaky clean VEEP choice.  Had he been a renegade, he wouldn't be the pick right now.  Romney's surrounded himself with "Yes men" for 25 years of Bain + 10 years of running.   Ryan is the perfect choice - and very smart and qualified.

Ryan's fail comes when he tries to make jokes, or tries to be tough.  Needs to avoid those two.  Making jokes about protesters, he looks like a dork.  Trying to puff up, he's 163 pounds at 6 foot 2, laughable.  but smart as a whip - you betcha.  Can speak policy like none of the other 3 on tickets.  Great pick.  let me konw anything you want my opinion on, i like ryan a lot.

[tonymctones]

I dont know anybody who's taxes has been raised.

And even if they did we got 30 million people insured so..

Unlike the shit the GOP uses its money on, tax breaks for the wealthy, wars etc etc..

well seeing as you havent seen it I guess it must be true...

tell us again specifically how ryans plan is going to hurt the middle class?

[Kazan]

I dont know anybody who's taxes has been raised.

And even if they did we got 30 million people insured so..

Unlike the shit the GOP uses its money on, tax breaks for the wealthy, wars etc etc..

Do I have explain to you the constitutional obligations for the Federal Government again?

[tu_holmes]

well seeing as you havent seen it I guess it must be true...

tell us again specifically how ryans plan is going to hurt the middle class?

Have your taxes gone up Tony?

[Soul Crusher]

Have your taxes gone up Tony?

Obamas inflation tax has slammed everyone. 

[tu_holmes]

Obamas inflation tax has slammed everyone. 

How much has inflation gone up since Jan of 2009?


Funny how the largest spikes on this chart are during "Republican Presidencies".

[Soul Crusher]

How much has inflation gone up since Jan of 2009?


Funny how the largest spikes on this chart are during "Republican Presidencies".

Health care
Food
Energy


Which are not weighted in the CPI are skyrocketing due to policies of this admn.

[240 is Back]

Ryan isn't running against obama.   Just as all obama/palin comparisons were naught.

[Kazan]

Just got back from the store - gas $4.19/ga
Food prices up spend between $30 and $40 more

[howardroark]

So you point is Ryan is gonna make it tougher on the middle class and make the ultra rich richer and the difference is app 3 trillion$?

The point is that Paul Ryan isn't a hardcore budget cutter - but rather someone who has proposed to slow the outrageous growth of government.

[outby43]

The point is that Paul Ryan isn't a hardcore budget cutter - but rather someone who has proposed to slow the outrageous growth of government.

So what makes him better than say Ron Paul on principles and cutting the growth of government?  The Repubs had their man ready to step in and do the work that needed to be done but they deemed him not electable.   

[howardroark]

So what makes him better than say Ron Paul on principles and cutting the growth of government?  The Repubs had their man ready to step in and do the work that needed to be done but they deemed him not electable.   

He's not any better than Ron Paul. Ron Paul is faaaaar better because he actually CUTS government, whereas the Paul Ryan Plan qualifies as simply the lesser of two evils. That said, Paul Ryan does deserve some credit for dealing with entitlement spending.

The two points I intended to get across with this thread:
1. Romney/Ryan aren't our salvation. Their plans are extremely deficient in pro-growth and deficit reduction policies.
2. Romney/Ryan aren't radical as Obama makes them out to be. They are simply very moderate reformers of the Obama Plan. (The Obama Plan, BTW, literally NEVER balances the budget.)

[Soul Crusher]

He's not any better than Ron Paul. Ron Paul is faaaaar better because he actually CUTS government, whereas the Paul Ryan Plan qualifies as simply the lesser of two evils. That said, Paul Ryan does deserve some credit for dealing with entitlement spending.

The two points I intended to get across with this thread:
1. Romney/Ryan aren't our salvation. Their plans are extremely deficient in pro-growth and deficit reduction policies.
2. Romney/Ryan aren't radical as Obama makes them out to be. They are simply very moderate reformers of the Obama Plan. (The Obama Plan, BTW, literally NEVER balances the budget.)

Ron Paul is not on the ballot.

[whork]

He's not any better than Ron Paul. Ron Paul is faaaaar better because he actually CUTS government, whereas the Paul Ryan Plan qualifies as simply the lesser of two evils. That said, Paul Ryan does deserve some credit for dealing with entitlement spending.

The two points I intended to get across with this thread:
1. Romney/Ryan aren't our salvation. Their plans are extremely deficient in pro-growth and deficit reduction policies.
2. Romney/Ryan aren't radical as Obama makes them out to be. They are simply very moderate reformers of the Obama Plan. (The Obama Plan, BTW, literally NEVER balances the budget.)

How would you promote growth? Lower taxes?

[Kazan]

How would you promote growth? Lower taxes?

First either eliminate or restrict back to their original intent the numerous alphabet agencies. You see I have a problem with a bunch of unelected appointy's  making US policy

[whork]

First either eliminate or restrict back to their original intent the numerous alphabet agencies. You see I have a problem with a bunch of unelected appointy's  making US policy

We all do.