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« on: August 19, 2012, 02:44:53 PM »
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A Siemens truck being used as a Nazi public address vehicle in 1932Preceding World War II, Siemens was involved in funding the rise of the Nazi Party and the secret rearmament of Germany. During the second World War, Siemens supported the Hitler regime, contributed to the war effort and participated in the "Nazification" of the economy. Siemens had many factories in and around notorious concentration camps[8][9] to build electric switches for military uses.[10] In one example, almost 100,000 men and women from Auschwitz worked in a Siemens factory inside the camp, supplying the electricity to the camp.

In 1972, a German satirist, F. C. Delius, published "Unsere Siemenswelt" (Our Siemens World), a mock history of Siemens. The book was a fake official company publication, which boasted "accomplishments" such as the installation of the crematoria at Auschwitz. Siemens brought Delius to trial and it was determined much of the book contained false claims. A series of depositions, trials, and appeals brought to light the conduct of Siemens during the Nazi regime. Contemporary scholars have been uncovering some of the atrocities of Siemens during this time, including forced and slave labor at Ravensbrück and in the Auschwitz subcamp of Bobrek, among others. Additionally, the company supplied electrical parts to concentration camps and death camps. The factories had poor working conditions, where malnutrition and death were common. Also, the scholarship has shown that the camp factories were created, run, and supplied by the SS, in conjunction with company officials, sometimes high-level officials. [11]

Siemens businessman and Nazi Party member John Rabe is credited with saving many Chinese lives during the Nanking Massacre. He later toured Germany lecturing on the atrocities committed in Nanking.[12]





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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2012, 02:50:37 PM »
That's up to you. I'm just puttin' the information out there. Here are 11 companies that you may not realize collaborated with the Nazis.
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The 12 Nazi collaborating companies featured in this article.
Kodak. During World War Two, Kodak's German branch used slave laborers from concentration camps. Several of their other European branches did heavy business with the Nazi government.

And Wilhelm Keppler, one of Hitler's top economic advisers, had deep ties in Kodak. When Nazism began, Keppler advised Kodak and several other U.S. companies that they'd benefit by firing all of their Jewish employees. (Source: The Nation)


2.Hugo Boss. In the 1930s, Hugo Boss started making Nazi uniforms. The reason: Hugo Boss himself had joined the Nazi party, and got a contract to make the Hitler Youth, storm trooper and SS uniforms.

That was a huge boon for Hugo Boss... he got the contract just eight years after founding his company... and that infusion of business helped take the company to another level.

The Nazi uniform manufacturing went so well that Hugo Boss ended up needing to bring in slave laborers in Poland and France to help out at the factory.

In 1997, Hugo's son, Siegfried Boss, told an Austrian news magazine, "Of course my father belonged to the Nazi party. But who didn't belong back then?" (Source: New York Times)


3.Volkswagen. Ferdinand Porsche, the man behind Volkswagen and Porsche, met with Hitler in 1934, to discuss the creation of a "people's car." (That's the English translation of Volkswagen.)

Hitler told Porsche to make the car with a streamlined shape, "like a beetle." And that's the genesis of the Volkswagen Beetle... it wasn't just designed for the Nazis, Hitler NAMED it.

During World War Two, it's believed that as many as four out of every five workers at Volkswagen's plants were slave laborers. Ferdinand Porsche even had a direct connection to Heinrich Himmler, one of the leaders of the SS, to directly request slaves from Auschwitz. (Source: The Straight Dope)


4.Bayer. During the Holocaust, a German company called IG Farben manufactured the Zyklon B gas used in the Nazi gas chambers. They also funded and helped with Josef Mengele's "experiments" on concentration camp prisoners.

IG Farben is the company that turned the single largest profit from work with the Nazis. After the War, the company was broken up. Bayer was one of its divisions, and went on to become its own company.

Oh... and aspirin was founded by a Bayer employee, Arthur Eichengrun. But Eichengrun was Jewish, and Bayer didn't want to admit that a Jewish guy created the one product that keeps their company in business. So, to this day, Bayer officially gives credit to Felix Hoffman, a nice Aryan man, for inventing aspirin. (Source: Alliance for Human Research Protection, Pharmaceutical Achievers)


5.Siemens. Siemens took slave laborers during the Holocaust and had them help construct the gas chambers that would kill them and their families. Good people over there.

Siemens also has the single biggest post-Holocaust moment of insensitivity of any of the companies on this list. In 2001, they tried to trademark the word "Zyklon" (which means "cyclone" in German) to become the name a new line of products... including a line of gas ovens.

Zyklon, of course, being the name of the poison gas used in their gas chambers during the Holocaust.

A week later, after several watchdog groups appropriately freaked out, Siemens withdrew the application. They said they never drew the connection between the Zyklon B gas used during the Holocaust and their proposed Zyklon line of products. (Source: BBC)


6.Coca-Cola, specifically Fanta. Coke played both sides during World War Two... they supported the American troops but also kept making soda for the Nazis. Then, in 1941, the German branch of Coke ran out of syrup, and couldn't get any from America because of wartime restrictions.

So they invented a new drink, specifically for the Nazis: A fruit-flavored soda called Fanta.

That's right: Long before Fanta was associated with a bunch of exotic women singing a god-awful jingle, it was the unofficial drink of Nazi Germany. (Source: New Statesman)


7.Ford. Henry Ford is a pretty legendary anti-Semite, so this makes sense. He was Hitler's most famous foreign backer. On his 75th birthday, in 1938, Ford received a Nazi medal, designed for "distinguished foreigners."

He profiteered off both sides of the War -- he was producing vehicles for the Nazis AND for the Allies.

I'm wondering if, in a completely misguided piece of logic, Allianz points to the Detroit Lions giving Ford the naming rights to their stadium as a reason why they should get the rights to the Meadowlands. (Source: Reformed Theology)


8.Standard Oil. The Luftwaffe needed tetraethyl lead gas in order to get their planes off the ground. Standard Oil was one of only three companies that could manufacture that type of fuel. So they did.

Without them, the German air force never could've even gotten their planes off the ground.

When Standard Oil was dissolved as a monopoly, it led to ExxonMobil, Chevron and BP, all of which are still around today. (But fortunately, their parent company's past decision to make incredible profits off of war have not carried on.) (Source: MIT's Thistle)


9.Chase bank. A lot of banks sided with the Nazis during World War Two. Chase is the most prominent.

They froze European Jewish customers' accounts and were extremely cooperative in providing banking service to Germany. (Source: New York Times)


10.IBM. IBM custom-build machines for the Nazis that they could use to track everything... from oil supplies to train schedules into death camps to Jewish bank accounts to individual Holocaust victims themselves.

In September of 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, the "New York Times" reported that three million Jews were going to be "immediately removed" from Poland and were likely going to be "exterminat[ed]."

IBM's reaction? An internal memo saying that, due to that "situation", they really needed to step up production on high-speed alphabetizing equipment. (Source: CNet)


11.Random House publishing. Random House's parent company, Bertelsmann A.G., worked for the Nazis... they published Hitler propaganda, and a book called "Sterilization and Euthanasia: A Contribution to Applied Christian Ethics".

Bertelsmann still owns and operates several companies. I picked Random House because they drew controversy in 1997 when they decided to expand the definition of Nazi in Webster's Dictionary.

Eleven years ago, they added the colloquial, softened definition of "a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to control a specified activity, practice, etc." (Think "Soup Nazi".)

The Anti-Defamation League called that expanded definition offensive... especially when added by a company with Nazi ties... they said it, quote, "trivializes and denies the murderous intent and actions of the Nazi regime... it also cheapens the language by allowing people to reach for a quick word fix... [and] lends a helping hand to those whose aim is to prove that the Nazis were really not such terrible people." (Source: New York Observer, ADL)




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Re: Be concious of what you buy and support SIEMANS
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2012, 03:03:06 PM »
I always thought the Nazis had the best uniforms, now I know why.

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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2012, 03:34:49 PM »
Who cares what some company participated in 70-75 years ago?  You should've boycotted then. All associated with this shit are long gone now. You can't blame these companies taking advantage of the situation. It's easy to look back at something and say you'd have done it differently, but those people didn't know the full extent.

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2012, 03:37:27 PM »
I will go out of my way to support all semen products.

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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2012, 03:39:44 PM »
I will go out of my way to support all semen products.

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 09:47:05 PM »
The Nazi's were the ruling party of germany... You think a company knows what a government's plans are?

That seems a little far fetched.

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2012, 10:26:09 PM »
Who cares what some company participated in 70-75 years ago?  You should've boycotted then. All associated with this shit are long gone now. You can't blame these companies taking advantage of the situation. It's easy to look back at something and say you'd have done it differently, but those people didn't know the full extent.
Exactly, how could they know, The Nazi's where accepted everywhere, even participated in the Olympics. The war was fair as far as I am concerned, everyone involved broke rules and where savages not just the Nazi's. The only difference is what Hitler did to the Jews.

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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 10:08:29 AM »
I will go out of my way to support all semen products.

most men prefer to supply semen not support it
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 11:34:03 AM »
National Defense Authorization ActFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search  
For the 2011 United States bill, see National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012.
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is a United States federal law specifying the budget and expenditures of the United States Department of Defense. Each year's act also includes other provisions.

On December 31, 2011, President Barack Obama signed the 2012 act into law. On May 15, 2012, ruling on a suit brought by a number of private citizens, including Chris Hedges, Daniel Ellsberg, Noam Chomsky, and Birgitta Jónsdóttir claiming that the act allows indefinite military detention,[1] U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest blocked section 1021.[2][3] Her statement follows:

As set forth above, this Court has found that plaintiffs have shown a likelihood of success on the merits regarding their constitutional claim and it therefore has a responsibility to insure that the public’s constitutional rights are protected. Accordingly, this Court finds that the public interest is best served by the issuance of the preliminary relief recited herein.”[4]
The government sidestepped the ruling, saying, "The government construes this Court’s Order as applying only as to the named plaintiffs in this suit."[4]

The 2013 bill is currently being debated in Congress.[5][6]


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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2012, 12:07:50 PM »
How many jewish execs do all of those companies have?

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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2012, 04:01:36 PM »
How many jewish execs do all of those companies have?
that is irrelevent. The very act of genocide and murder is, and the parallels of then and now are obvious.

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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2012, 04:13:36 PM »
Who cares what some company participated in 70-75 years ago?  You should've boycotted then. All associated with this shit are long gone now. You can't blame these companies taking advantage of the situation. It's easy to look back at something and say you'd have done it differently, but those people didn't know the full extent.

by extension why all the bother about companies doing business with Iran?
even allowing for all its reported clandestine operations it has yet to invade any country in the recent past
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2012, 05:26:19 PM »
by extension why all the bother about companies doing business with Iran?
even allowing for all its reported clandestine operations it has yet to invade any country in the recent past
   YEP, another getbigger who is awake.

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2012, 06:10:28 PM »
by extension why all the bother about companies doing business with Iran?
even allowing for all its reported clandestine operations it has yet to invade any country in the recent past



Hey bro, I say do it. It's collateral damage of free market capitlism. Until we change that, and turn into some facist state, people will keep doing what's best for them, not the group. And, I'm not saying I don't partake in it, but until it changes, who am I to say different. The only way to change something, or voice your opinion to manufacturers is to take you business elsewhere, as you are doing.

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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2012, 06:25:09 PM »


Hey bro, I say do it. It's collateral damage of free market capitlism. Until we change that, and turn into some facist state, people will keep doing what's best for them, not the group. And, I'm not saying I don't partake in it, but until it changes, who am I to say different. The only way to change something, or voice your opinion to manufacturers is to take you business elsewhere, as you are doing.
  news flash! YOU ARE ALREADY IN A FASCIST STATE, WAKE UP!

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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2012, 06:32:31 PM »
  news flash! YOU ARE ALREADY IN A FASCIST STATE, WAKE UP!

The rampant nationalism is severely lacking. I do however believe, that this country is due for a shake up.

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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2012, 06:55:58 PM »
The rampant nationalism is severely lacking. I do however believe, that this country is due for a shake up.
 They pump you up with nationalism/patriotism/ used to be religion which they are tearing down now,  all to take your eyes off the truth. And the truth is,they dont give a shit about citizens, soldiers or any THING obstructing their goals. There is no more country, it has been sold.

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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2012, 04:08:43 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2012, 03:26:53 PM »

Almost every nation falls under those terms

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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2012, 04:41:20 PM »
Almost every nation falls under those terms
But not every nation is an EMPIRE mon frere.

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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2012, 05:21:04 PM »
But not every nation is an EMPIRE mon frere.
What nation are you reffering to? Germany? US?, cause the states is not an Empire by definition.

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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2012, 05:39:19 PM »
What nation are you reffering to? Germany? US?, cause the states is not an Empire by definition.
LOL, Thats because they are smart enough to know that ''empire''  is a 4 letter word today.