Author Topic: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15?? (Read 39420 times)

tinymarvin · « **on:** August 25, 2012, 12:20:38 AM »

Finaly Mr. O has spoken on these important subjects.

OTHstrong · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2012, 01:04:39 AM »

Ha cool vid bro, that was great.

He said Ronnie and Dorian did what no others have done, at their best on stage he would give the nod to Ronnie.

Then he stated he will stick to one show a year and there is no point doing a lesser show (as in Arnold Classic), his position of focusing on 1 show at time makes more sense and the Arnold Champ usually comes to the Olympia to Challenge him anyway.

Then he said he is not the type to look huge in clothes. One reason is every pound of muscle he puts on has to serve a purpose, not just pack on muscle all over the place without detail.

Then he talked about all the smack talk on the forums and said he is fine with people saying bad things if they are debating about different bodybuilders and such but people go to far with personal attacks for no reasons.

Then was asked about gh15 and said he does not know him, but says it is all good. He then said he doesn't mind people doubting him but thinks it's wrong is when he proves them wrong and they don't man up, not sure if he was referring to gh15 or not.

Then he says people ask if he is better then Ronnie and he said "NO I AM NOT BETTER THEN RONNIE``

Half way through the video the guy in the back mentions getbig and says gh15 is a nobody

Phil is cool, very humble guy.

ENZO · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2012, 01:10:18 AM »

Nice to see Phil so candid..lol @ all the getbig references, I agree with everything said.

James28 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2012, 02:11:21 AM »

At 2:00 he start talking about Ronnie and Dorian. At around 2:42 he says that at their respective bests, Ronnie wins all day long.

RocketSwitch625 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2012, 03:03:45 AM »

Ronnie Coleman unbeatable? Is he sure? LOL

Here's a little reminder of something that happened in 2002 at the GNC Show of Strength:

johnny1 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2012, 03:51:47 AM »

Quote from: RocketSwitch625 on August 25, 2012, 03:03:45 AM

Ronnie Coleman unbeatable? Is he sure? LOL

Here's a little reminder of something that happened in 2002 at the GNC Show of Strength:

Yip

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2012, 05:13:36 AM »

Quote from: tinymarvin on August 25, 2012, 12:20:38 AM

Finaly Mr. O has spoken on these important subjects.

He continues to speak about this ' myth ' that Ronnie was ' unbeatable ' it's simply not true. Ronnie was very beatable and beaten multiple times. Dorian never was

1998 Ronnie was almost beat when he was at his best Olympia that contest was separated by just 3 points to this day still one of the closest Mr Olympias ever

2001 he was beaten in the entire prejudging although he squeaked out another close call

2002 he was beaten in the posing rounds in the night show by Kevin , again another close call

2002 be was soundly beaten by Gunther who outclassed him

2006 he was beaten soundly by Jay

2007 he dropped to 4th place

It's a myth to say Ronnie is unbeatable

Dorian on the other hand NEVER lost a round and finished most of his Olympias with straight firsts.

Ronnie is the king when it comes to bodybuilding , he tied Haney for most Olympia titles and he has the most pro titles of any competitor this alone makes him the GOAT . But that has nothing to do with if he could beat Dorian at his best.

Wiggs · « **Reply #7 on:** August 25, 2012, 11:39:05 AM »

Quote it right dipshits. He said Ronnie at his best was unbeatable.

G_Thang · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2012, 11:54:06 AM »

Quote from: RocketSwitch625 on August 25, 2012, 03:03:45 AM

Ronnie Coleman unbeatable? Is he sure? LOL

Here's a little reminder of something that happened in 2002 at the GNC Show of Strength:

dumbass, that show was done on ronnie's home court, and he came in half-ass, thinking it was his show, no matter what. i called this show the day before. he should have stayed the fuck out of louisiana. the red necks were going to do him in for this german white boy. bigger robbery than cutler winning in 2006. it's amazing how branch can win shows with multiple tears and diseased looking little body, but ronnie can't defend his title vs vastly inferior white boys.

OTHstrong · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2012, 02:48:06 PM »

Quote from: ukjeff on August 25, 2012, 11:41:13 AM

Beaten by Lee Haney and Momo Benaziza, oh and a light heavy named Chris Oskys for the overall British in 86 and also only managed 7th in the World Games in 85

If you want to play that game then Coleman lost to';

Thierry Pastel
Milos Sarcev
Aaron Baker
Alq Gurley
Sonny Schmidt
Andreas Munzer
Charles Clairmonte
Nassar El Sonbaty
Chris Cormier
Chris Cormier
Paul Dillett
Kevine Levrone
Shawn Ray
Dorian Yates
Flex Wheeler
Mike Francois
Vince Taylor
Jean-Pierre Fux
Lee Priest
David Dearth
Jim Quinn
Ray McNeil
Mauro Sarni
Pavel Jablonicky
Paul Dillett
Gunter Schlierkamp
Jay Cutler
Victor Martinez
Dexter Jackson
^^^ as a pro only

Paul Demayo
Edgar Fletcher
Jerry Rodgers

I know I missed a few

OTHstrong · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2012, 02:50:26 PM »

Quote from: G_Thang on August 25, 2012, 11:54:06 AM

dumbass, that show was done on ronnie's home court, and he came in half-ass, thinking it was his show, no matter what. i called this show the day before. he should have stayed the fuck out of louisiana. the red necks were going to do him in for this german white boy. &guy robbery than cutler winning in 2006. it's amazing how branch can win shows with multiple tears and diseased looking little body, but ronnie can't defend his title vs vastly inferior white boys.

Both Shows where scored correctly brother, look at those pics, Gunter is slaughtering Coleman

OTHstrong · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2012, 03:01:35 PM »

Quote from: ukjeff on August 25, 2012, 02:52:00 PM

playing games?
I dont recall writing anything about Coleman not being beaten, it was just a counter post to the statement that Dorian wasn't.

How much time did you waste formulating that list?

a lot

But now I re-countered your small list despite your intentions, someone might get the wrong impression

Papper · « **Reply #12 on:** August 25, 2012, 03:14:03 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on August 25, 2012, 03:01:35 PM

a lot

I think you were just a little bit to eager to show off your men in thong pageant skills there

G_Thang · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2012, 03:14:30 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on August 25, 2012, 02:48:06 PM

If you want to play that game then Coleman lost to';

Thierry Pastel
Milos Sarcev
Aaron Baker
Alq Gurley
Sonny Schmidt
Andreas Munzer
Charles Clairmonte
Nassar El Sonbaty
Chris Cormier
Chris Cormier
Paul Dillett
Kevine Levrone
Shawn Ray
Dorian Yates
Flex Wheeler
Mike Francois
Vince Taylor
Jean-Pierre Fux
Lee Priest
David Dearth
Jim Quinn
Ray McNeil
Mauro Sarni
Pavel Jablonicky
Paul Dillett
Gunter Schlierkamp
Jay Cutler
Victor Martinez
Dexter Jackson
^^^ as a pro only

Paul Demayo
Edgar Fletcher
Jerry Rodgers

I know I missed a few

What's the point?

Ronnie's time-line is full-time career - bbing. Yates is thug beating up African immigrants - bbing. Phil is college - gym front - bbing. Haney is no job - bbing. In other words, Ronnie shouldn't have happen. Everyone can thank Shawn Ray's big ass mouth.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #14 on:** August 25, 2012, 03:17:43 PM »

Quote from: ukjeff on August 25, 2012, 11:41:13 AM

Beaten by Lee Haney and Momo Benaziza, oh and a light heavy named Chris Oskys for the overall British in 86 and also only managed 7th in the World Games in 85

I should have said once he became Mr Olympia

and Yates beat Haney in the muscularity round

OTHstrong · « **Reply #15 on:** August 25, 2012, 03:22:39 PM »

Quote from: G_Thang on August 25, 2012, 03:14:30 PM

What's the point?

Ronnie's time-line is full-time career - bbing. Yates is thug beating up African immigrants - bbing. Phil is college - gym front - bbing. Haney is no job - bbing. In other words, Ronnie shouldn't have happen. Everyone can thank Shawn Ray's big ass mouth.

The point was to counter the guys list on who beat Dorian but sense he clarified the reason he wrote that then there is no point I guess

Quote from: papercut on August 25, 2012, 03:14:03 PM

I think you were just a little bit to eager to show off your men in thong pageant skills there

Easy there bro, if it`s a beef you are looking for, I`m in,.....

No offence but I hate those gay fucken jokes, they are old and stupid and shmoes use them to filter out the fags

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2012, 03:32:13 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on August 25, 2012, 02:50:26 PM

Both Shows where scored correctly brother, look at those pics, Gunter is slaughtering Coleman

That's the thing with Coleman fanboys they are so deluded they think that when he is being soundly beaten he is winning , Hulkster the moron once claimed Ronnie ' dominated ' the 2001 Olympia , by losing the entire prejudging he;s dominating $:-\$

Ronnie at his best Olympia was almost beat by Flex who never came close to Dorian , yet Ronnie is supposed to beat him?

OTHstrong · « **Reply #17 on:** August 25, 2012, 03:59:21 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on August 25, 2012, 03:32:13 PM

That's the thing with Coleman fanboys they are so deluded they think that when he is being soundly beaten he is winning , Hulkster the moron once claimed Ronnie ' dominated ' the 2001 Olympia , by losing the entire prejudging he;s dominating $:-\$

Ronnie at his best Olympia was almost beat by Flex who never came close to Dorian , yet Ronnie is supposed to beat him?

This has been my completely logical argument this whole time.

1. Let`s take the Olympia judging panel as a standard measurement

2. let`s create a point system in accordance to the standard measurements of the Olympia judging panel

3. Let Ronnie`s 98 represent a 10 on the point system.

4. according to the standard olympia judging panel Flex would then get a 9 cause it was extremely close in 98.

5. According to the Olympia judging panel, they all agree (yes every single judge) that the 93 version of Flex was way better then his 98 version

6. So if he gets a 9 in 98 by the Olympia judging panel according to the standard measurement then what does he get in 93, a 10 at least, logical

7.Now if he gets a 10 according to the Olympia judging panel then what does Yates get considering it wasn`t even close, Yates gets at least a 12 according to the Olympia judges.

8. So my point is according to the Olympia judges 93 Yates beats 98 Coleman, not even close.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2012, 04:09:32 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on August 25, 2012, 03:59:21 PM

This has been my completely logical argument this whole time.

1. Let`s take the Olympia judging panel as a standard measurement

2. let`s create a point system in accordance to the standard measurements of the Olympia judging panel

3. Let Ronnie`s 98 represent a 10 on the point system.

4. according to the standard olympia judging panel Flex would then get a 9 cause it was extremely close in 98.

5. According to the Olympia judging panel, they all agree (yes every single judge) that the 93 version of Flex was way better then his 98 version

6. So if he gets a 9 in 98 by the Olympia judging panel according to the standard measurement then what does he get in 93, a 10 at least, logical

7.Now if he gets a 10 according to the Olympia judging panel then what does Yates get considering it wasn`t even close, Yates gets at least a 12 according to the Olympia judges.

8. So my point is according to the Olympia judges 93 Yates beats 98 Coleman, not even close.

I agree Ronnie 1998 at what he said was his best on multiple occasions and what many consider his best Olympia appearance just simply wouldn't pose a threat he just wouldn't

Flex was OFF in 1998 off from his Arnold Classic appearance that year and way off from 1993 when he was tearing up the pro scene and it was close. These idiots claim Ronnie was overlooked in the first round which explains the discrepancy in the score , NOT accurate he was call-out and compared NINE times in the first round , he just wasn't in the first call-out and why would he be?

1993 Dorian was so far and above everyone else they didn't even need to include him in the muscularity round , like Samir Bannout said Dorian was first , second and third. After the contest Flex said Dorian is ' unbeatable '

Fast forward to 1998 and Ronnie at his career best Olympia just barely beats a sub-par Flex by just 3 points in one of the closest contests ever and he's supposed to beat Dorian 1993? it just wouldn't happen and neither would 1999 because all he did was bigger a tad bigger and lost that razor sharp conditioning he had the year before

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2012, 07:52:08 PM »

so he said coleman was better...
good man....

tbombz · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2012, 08:56:37 PM »

Phils a cool dude.

Id love to train in the same gym as him.

It seems to me like he was a fan of gh15 untill gh15 dissed Phil after he won the olympia and Phils feelings are really hurt about that.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 25, 2012, 09:42:20 PM »

"I'd say Ronnie Coleman all day, if they competed at their prime it would be done"

Phillip heath - Mr Olympia

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 25, 2012, 09:46:17 PM »

In regards to Ronnie

Phil Heath states "we are not gonna see another guy like that for a long time"
Phillip Heath Mr Olympia

...
Have we heard anyone say that about Dorian .... ?
Peak condition not in the same league as Coleman I would t even compare them Ronnie is just so much fucking better...

johnny1 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 25, 2012, 10:45:46 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on August 25, 2012, 03:59:21 PM

This has been my completely logical argument this whole time.

1. Let`s take the Olympia judging panel as a standard measurement

2. let`s create a point system in accordance to the standard measurements of the Olympia judging panel

3. Let Ronnie`s 98 represent a 10 on the point system.

4. according to the standard olympia judging panel Flex would then get a 9 cause it was extremely close in 98.

5. According to the Olympia judging panel, they all agree (yes every single judge) that the 93 version of Flex was way better then his 98 version

6. So if he gets a 9 in 98 by the Olympia judging panel according to the standard measurement then what does he get in 93, a 10 at least, logical

7.Now if he gets a 10 according to the Olympia judging panel then what does Yates get considering it wasn`t even close, Yates gets at least a 12 according to the Olympia judges.

8. So my point is according to the Olympia judges 93 Yates beats 98 Coleman, not even close.

93 Yates Vs Coleman 98 would be the one no doubt about it, the Difference was in 1993 Yates COMPLETELY Dominated the Competition in 1998 with Coleman it was a CLOSE thing ether way that type of Speculative Competition would be the one the Best Vs the Best

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #24 on:** August 26, 2012, 05:30:43 AM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2012, 09:46:17 PM

In regards to Ronnie

Phil Heath states "we are not gonna see another guy like that for a long time"
Phillip Heath Mr Olympia

...
Have we heard anyone say that about Dorian .... ?
Peak condition not in the same league as Coleman I would t even compare them Ronnie is just so much fucking better...

Have we seen another guy like Dorian? it's been a long time.

And I love how everyone wants to put so much stock in what Phil says , who cares what Phil says? it's what Ronnie said that is the kicker

Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.

Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?

Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.

Jim: You think so?

Ronnie: I know so. Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat