Same with Kai. Overall, both are better than Phil. They just cant dial it in. If they ever did dial it in, Kai and Vic would blow Philsulina out of the water. They would make his NPC amateur body (besides arms) look small.
Greene dailed it in, last year. Heath STILL BEAT HIM!!
For Greene to win, he has to be on, and Heath has to be off.
There are many pros, who slogged away at the NPC national level for YEARS, before turning pro. Heath did it on his first try at the USA and won two pro shows, beating several top Olympia competitors in the process, his rookie year (in one of those two shows that Heath won, Greene placed "18th").
Unless I'm mistaken, Greene has only beaten Heath once, when they've gone toe-to-toe (2009 Olympia).