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« on: August 25, 2012, 06:17:52 AM »

Looks interestin.


The Battle of Little Big Horn was a decisive victory for the Native Americans over the 7th Cavalry led by George Custer. All of his men were presumed killed during the battle, but forensic evidence now points to August Finkel as the lone survivor. Find out more at http://www.facebook.com/More2History and tune in to Custer’s Last Man: I Survived Little Big Horn, tonight at 10E/11P on H2.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2012, 06:24:52 AM »

 i like watchin history channel too and stuff about the nazis i tried wacking it to americas next top model thay had some fine ass hoes on there
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2012, 06:29:23 AM »

I love any articles or documentaries on Big Horn or Custer but I just couldn't see any of those Calvery soldiers escaping that situation.
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2012, 06:33:56 AM »

I love any articles or documentaries on Big Horn or Custer but I just couldn't see any of those Calvery soldiers escaping that situation.
They must have some decent evidence then.  Maybe he played dead under a pile of bodies?  Maybe he just ran as soon as the fighting started.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2012, 06:38:20 AM »

Jack Crabb.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2012, 01:41:51 PM »

I've heard stories about this survivor, but accounts vary wildly.  Some say he retreated at the first sight of the Sioux; others say he rode away in the confusion.  It's been a long time since I looked at the tale with any scrutiny, but as someone who walked that battlefield, and as FLAT as that land is, I find a hard time believing anyone under Custer's flag could've gotten away in one piece.  They call Montana Big Sky Country for a reason Smiley

Still, I suppose it's possible. The Sioux were ruthless but they weren't all-powerful.  If a man on horseback beat feet out of there and they didn't give chase immediately, he could've potentially slipped out of there.  Lucky SOB, though.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2012, 01:43:23 PM »

Is he still alive today ?
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2012, 01:45:55 PM »

Is he still alive today ?

No. He got influenced and started to eat at mcdonald's and died pretty soon.
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2012, 01:45:58 PM »

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The Battle of Little Big Horn was a decisive victory for the Native Americans over the 7th Cavalry led by George Custer. All of his men were presumed killed during the battle, but forensic evidence now points to August Finkel as the lone survivor. Find out more at http://www.facebook.com/More2History and tune in to Custer’s Last Man: I Survived Little Big Horn, tonight at 10E/11P on H2.

You forgot about Comanche the horse.



The horse was bought by the U.S. Army in 1868 in St. Louis, Missouri and sent to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. His ancestry and date of birth were both uncertain. Captain Myles Keogh of the 7th Cavalry liked the 15 -hand bay gelding and bought him for his personal mount, to be ridden only in battle.[1] In 1868, while the army was fighting the Comanche in Kansas, the horse was wounded in the hindquarters by an arrow, but continued to carry Keogh in the fight. He named the horse “Comanche” to honor his bravery. Comanche was wounded many more times, but always exhibited the same toughness.
On June 25, 1876, Captain Keogh rode Comanche at the Battle of the Little Bighorn, led by Lt Col. George Armstrong Custer. The battle was notable as their entire detachment was killed. US soldiers found Comanche, badly wounded, two days after the battle. After being transported to Fort Lincoln, he was slowly nursed back to health. After a lengthy convalescence, Comanche was retired. In April 1878, Colonel Samuel D. Sturgis issued the
following order:
Headquarters Seventh United States Cavalry, Fort A. Lincoln, D. T., April 10th, 1878. General Orders No. 7.
(1.) The horse known as 'Comanche,' being the only living representative of the bloody tragedy of the Little Big Horn, June 25th, 1876, his kind treatment and comfort shall be a matter of special pride and solicitude on the part of every member of the Seventh Cavalry to the end that his life be preserved to the utmost limit. Wounded and scarred as he is, his very existence speaks in terms more eloquent than words, of the desperate struggle against overwhelming numbers of the hopeless conflict and the heroic manner in which all went down on that fatal day.
(2.) The commanding officer of Company I will see that a special and comfortable stable is fitted up for him, and he will not be ridden by any person whatsoever, under any circumstances, nor will he be put to any kind of work.
(3.) Hereafter, upon all occasions of ceremony of mounted regimental formation, 'Comanche,' saddled, bridled, and draped in mourning, and led by a mounted trooper of Company I, will be paraded with the regiment.
By command of Col. Sturgis, E. A. Garlington, First Lieutenant and Adjutant, Seventh Cavalry."[2]




The ceremonial order inspired a reporter for the Bismarck Tribune to go to Fort Abraham Lincoln to interview Comanche. He "asked the usual questions which his subject acknowledged with a toss of his head, a stamp of his foot and a flourish of his beautiful tail."
His official keeper, the farrier John Rivers of Company I, Keogh's old troop, saved "Comanche's reputation" by answering more fully. Here is the gist of what the reporter learned (Bismarck Tribune, May 10, 1878):
Comanche was a veteran, 21 years old, and had been with the 7th Cavalry since its Organization in '66.... He was found by Sergeant [Milton J.] DeLacey [Co. I] in a ravine where he had crawled, there to die and feed the Crows. He was raised up and tenderly cared for. His wounds were serious, but not necessarily fatal if properly looked after...He carries seven scars from as many bullet wounds. There are four back of the foreshoulder, one through a hoof, and one on either hind leg. On the Custer battlefield (actually Fort Abraham Lincoln) three of the balls were extracted from his body and the last one was not taken out until April '77…Comanche is not a great horse, physically talking; he is of medium size, neatly put up, but quite noble looking. He is very gentle. His color is 'claybank' He would make a handsome carriage horse...
In June 1879, Comanche was brought to Fort Meade by the Seventh Regiment, where he was kept like a prince until 1887. He was taken to Fort Riley, Kansas.[2] As an honor, he was made "Second Commanding Officer" of the 7th Cavalry. At Fort Riley, he became something of a pet, occasionally leading parades and indulging in a fondness for beer.
Comanche died of colic on November 7, 1891, around 29 years old.[3]. He is one of only two horses in United States history to be buried with full military honors, the other being Black Jack.[4]
His remains were sent to the University of Kansas and preserved, where they can still be seen today in the university's Natural History Museum.[5] Comanche was restored by museum conservator Terry Brown in 2005.[6]
Comanche is often described as the sole survivor of Custer's detachment, but like so many other legends surrounding the Little Bighorn battle, this one is false. As historian Evan S. Connell writes in Son of the Morning Star:
Comanche was reputed to be the only survivor of the Little Bighorn, but quite a few Seventh Cavalry mounts survived, probably more than one hundred, and there was even a yellow bulldog. Comanche lived on another fifteen years, and when he died, he was stuffed and to this day remains in a glass case at the University of Kansas. So, protected from moths and souvenir hunters by his humidity-controlled glass case, Comanche stands patiently, enduring generation after generation of undergraduate jokes. The other horses are gone, and the mysterious yellow bulldog is gone, which means that in a sense the legend is true. Comanche alone survived.
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2012, 01:46:47 PM »


Here is a song about the TRUE Lone Survivor and War Hero, Comanche the Horse
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcWevSHrbiA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcWevSHrbiA</a>
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2012, 01:47:50 PM »

So, someone wanted to toot their own horn, huh?

Weren't the Buffalo Soldiers supposed to be reinforcements, but couldn't get there in time?
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2012, 01:48:03 PM »

Comanche is still preserved to this very day.

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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2012, 01:48:28 PM »

No. He got influenced and started to eat at mcdonald's and died pretty soon.
The McGeronimo Happy Meals very extremely fatty in those days..
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2012, 01:49:55 PM »



http://www.custermuseum.org/Comanche.htm

Comanche:  Custer Column's Sole Battle Survivor

 

Comanche Restoration Project
University of Kansas naturalist Lewis Lindsay Dyche prepared Comanche for exhibition at the World's Fair in Chicago in 1893.  Following the fair, Comanche was returned to the KU Natural History Museum.  Following a major restoration and conservation effort in 2004, the museum began exhibiting Comanche in a new exhibit, where the horse remains today as a popular attraction.  (Photo KUNHM)

Comanche (1862-1891)  was a 15 hand buckskin bay gelding, and the sole survivor of Custer's column from the Battle of the Little Big Horn.  He was purchased by the U.S. Army in 1868 in

 St. Louis, Missouri, and was sent to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, where he became the personal mount of Captain Myles Keogh of the 7th Cavalry.  During his military service, Comanche was wounded several times, and was admired for his bravery and toughness.

Keogh rode Comanche into battle on June 25, 1876, and was found two days later in a ravine badly wounded, very weak and barely able to stand.  The horse suffered three severe wounds:  through his neck, through his front shoulder and to his hind quarter; and four flesh wounds.  Comanche was transported to Fort Lincoln aboard the steamer the Far West along with other casualties.  He was slowly nursed back to health, retired, and orders were given that he should never be ridden again.

Comanche was eventually sent to Fort Riley, Kansas.  He acted as a regimental mascot and occasionally lead parades until his death in 1891.  His remains were sent to the University of Kansas in Lawrence, where they were preserved and mounted.
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2012, 03:40:20 PM »

Sadly, finkel tried numerous times to tell his story in his later years.. But, there were so many "survivors" in those days that many paid no attention.. I have numerous books about Little Big Horn and the Indian accounts of the battle.. Many Indian accounts state that here was a survivor or two.. Sadly they also state that a few soldiers escaped the battle and then committed suicide during the ensueing chase believing hey would be caught... One Indian stated that his friend and him gave up the chase of one soldier but the soldier still shot himself in the temple not realizing that his pursuers had given up..
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2012, 12:46:28 AM »

Is he still alive today ?
Bro, it was 130 years ago
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2012, 02:26:53 AM »

Bro, it was 130 years ago
Really  Huh






















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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2012, 03:12:05 AM »

Sarcasm?
 lol, you got me there  Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2012, 09:13:01 AM »

You forgot about Comanche the horse.



The horse was bought by the U.S. Army in 1868 in St. Louis, Missouri and sent to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. His ancestry and date of birth were both uncertain. Captain Myles Keogh of the 7th Cavalry liked the 15 -hand bay gelding and bought him for his personal mount, to be ridden only in battle.[1] In 1868, while the army was fighting the Comanche in Kansas, the horse was wounded in the hindquarters by an arrow, but continued to carry Keogh in the fight. He named the horse “Comanche” to honor his bravery. Comanche was wounded many more times, but always exhibited the same toughness.
On June 25, 1876, Captain Keogh rode Comanche at the Battle of the Little Bighorn, led by Lt Col. George Armstrong Custer. The battle was notable as their entire detachment was killed. US soldiers found Comanche, badly wounded, two days after the battle. After being transported to Fort Lincoln, he was slowly nursed back to health. After a lengthy convalescence, Comanche was retired. In April 1878, Colonel Samuel D. Sturgis issued the
following order:
Headquarters Seventh United States Cavalry, Fort A. Lincoln, D. T., April 10th, 1878. General Orders No. 7.
(1.) The horse known as 'Comanche,' being the only living representative of the bloody tragedy of the Little Big Horn, June 25th, 1876, his kind treatment and comfort shall be a matter of special pride and solicitude on the part of every member of the Seventh Cavalry to the end that his life be preserved to the utmost limit. Wounded and scarred as he is, his very existence speaks in terms more eloquent than words, of the desperate struggle against overwhelming numbers of the hopeless conflict and the heroic manner in which all went down on that fatal day.
(2.) The commanding officer of Company I will see that a special and comfortable stable is fitted up for him, and he will not be ridden by any person whatsoever, under any circumstances, nor will he be put to any kind of work.
(3.) Hereafter, upon all occasions of ceremony of mounted regimental formation, 'Comanche,' saddled, bridled, and draped in mourning, and led by a mounted trooper of Company I, will be paraded with the regiment.
By command of Col. Sturgis, E. A. Garlington, First Lieutenant and Adjutant, Seventh Cavalry."[2]




The ceremonial order inspired a reporter for the Bismarck Tribune to go to Fort Abraham Lincoln to interview Comanche. He "asked the usual questions which his subject acknowledged with a toss of his head, a stamp of his foot and a flourish of his beautiful tail."
His official keeper, the farrier John Rivers of Company I, Keogh's old troop, saved "Comanche's reputation" by answering more fully. Here is the gist of what the reporter learned (Bismarck Tribune, May 10, 1878):
Comanche was a veteran, 21 years old, and had been with the 7th Cavalry since its Organization in '66.... He was found by Sergeant [Milton J.] DeLacey [Co. I] in a ravine where he had crawled, there to die and feed the Crows. He was raised up and tenderly cared for. His wounds were serious, but not necessarily fatal if properly looked after...He carries seven scars from as many bullet wounds. There are four back of the foreshoulder, one through a hoof, and one on either hind leg. On the Custer battlefield (actually Fort Abraham Lincoln) three of the balls were extracted from his body and the last one was not taken out until April '77…Comanche is not a great horse, physically talking; he is of medium size, neatly put up, but quite noble looking. He is very gentle. His color is 'claybank' He would make a handsome carriage horse...
In June 1879, Comanche was brought to Fort Meade by the Seventh Regiment, where he was kept like a prince until 1887. He was taken to Fort Riley, Kansas.[2] As an honor, he was made "Second Commanding Officer" of the 7th Cavalry. At Fort Riley, he became something of a pet, occasionally leading parades and indulging in a fondness for beer.
Comanche died of colic on November 7, 1891, around 29 years old.[3]. He is one of only two horses in United States history to be buried with full military honors, the other being Black Jack.[4]
His remains were sent to the University of Kansas and preserved, where they can still be seen today in the university's Natural History Museum.[5] Comanche was restored by museum conservator Terry Brown in 2005.[6]
Comanche is often described as the sole survivor of Custer's detachment, but like so many other legends surrounding the Little Bighorn battle, this one is false. As historian Evan S. Connell writes in Son of the Morning Star:
Comanche was reputed to be the only survivor of the Little Bighorn, but quite a few Seventh Cavalry mounts survived, probably more than one hundred, and there was even a yellow bulldog. Comanche lived on another fifteen years, and when he died, he was stuffed and to this day remains in a glass case at the University of Kansas. So, protected from moths and souvenir hunters by his humidity-controlled glass case, Comanche stands patiently, enduring generation after generation of undergraduate jokes. The other horses are gone, and the mysterious yellow bulldog is gone, which means that in a sense the legend is true. Comanche alone survived.

Horse was a savage.
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