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Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« on: August 30, 2012, 06:28:59 AM »
Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
By Steve Benen
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Thu Aug 30, 2012

At a basic level, what bothers me about politicians who lie, especially at a national level, is that the deceptions are insulting. A candidate who knows the truth, but makes a deliberate decision to deceive, is working from the assumption that Americans are suckers.

And last night, Paul Ryan made painfully clear that he thinks we're all profound idiots who'll believe an endless string of lies, so long as they're packaged well and presented with conviction. Jonathan Cohn suggested last night's address may have been the "most dishonest convention speech" ever delivered, and I can't think of a close second.

It was a truly breathtaking display of brazen dishonesty. Paul Ryan looked America in the eye and without a hint a shame, lied to our face.

Ryan lied about President Obama's auto-industry rescue, blaming the administration for a plant closing orchestrated by President Bush. Ryan lied about Medicare, falsely accusing Obama of undermining the system. Ryan lied about the debt downgrade, falsely blaming the president for a downgrade caused by Ryan and congressional Republicans.

Ryan lied about the Simpson-Bowles commission, falsely accusing Obama of walking away from debt reduction, and ignoring the fact that Ryan himself fought to ensure the Simpson-Bowles commission never even released a report. Ryan lied about his plans for the safety net, saying he intends to "protect the weak" when he budget plan intends to gut public investments that benefit the poor.

Ryan lied about the debt, saying Obama "has added more debt than any other president before him," when the truth is, that was George W. Bush -- who added over $5 trillion to the debt thanks in large part to congressional votes cast by Paul Ryan.

Ryan lied about the Recovery Act, calling the stimulus "a case of political patronage, corporate welfare, and cronyism at their worst," when reality shows the exact opposite. Ryan lied about small businesses, accusing Obama of raising their taxes, when he actually cut their taxes.

Paul Ryan, the man the media and Republicans celebrate as a bold truth-teller, told one lie after another, demonstrating a near-pathological disdain for honesty. His speech presented no substantive ideas, no policy solutions, and no bold positions on any key issue, but it included enough falsehoods to choke a fact-checker -- all because he assumes you're a fool and journalists are too incompetent to separate fact from fiction.

Is he right?

Dan Amira called the speech "appallingly disingenuous and shamelessly hypocritical," but added this gem:

    Most of the millions of people who watched the speech on television tonight do not read fact-checks or obsessively consume news 15 hours a day, and will never know how much Ryan's case against Obama relied on lies and deception. Ryan's pants are on fire, but all America saw was a barn-burner.

CNN's Wolf Blitzer said he counted "seven or eight" claims that "fact checkers will have some opportunities to dispute," but concluded the lies didn't matter because it was "a powerful speech" that gave Republicans what they "were hoping for."

CNN's Erin Burnett added, "There will be issues with some of the facts, but it motivated people."

Let that sentence roll around in your brain for a moment, and ponder what it means for our country.

Ryan lied uncontrollably, but that's not terribly important. It undermines our democracy and the basic norms of the American political system, but no one seems to care anymore. Ryan thinks we're idiots, but his cynicism matters less than the electoral implications.

The United States is better than Paul Ryan's dishonesty. It has to be. Our future depends on it.


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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 06:33:55 AM »
Paul Ryan absolutely told the truth on those things. 

Now that the RATbama horrible record is being aired in public the marxist left is melting down knowing how bad their messiah has failed. 

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 07:02:59 AM »
Newsflash.  ALL POLITICIANS ARE LIARS.

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 07:23:31 AM »
Benny - WHAT IS THE DATE OF THIS VIDEO?

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 07:32:41 AM »
paul ryan is one good egg.

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 07:35:56 AM »
Newsflash.  ALL POLITICIANS ARE LIARS.
What with all the posturing and righteous indignations going on, it's easy to overlook this truism.      ;D

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 07:47:49 AM »
What with all the posturing and righteous indignations going on, it's easy to overlook this truism.      ;D
Republicans= hypocrite!

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 07:49:39 AM »
Republicans= hypocrite!

FACT CHECK: Obama promised and failed to keep Janesville GM plant open

August 30, 2012 | 9:36 am
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Last night, in his Republican National Convention speech, Paul Ryan said:
 

President Barack Obama came to office during an economic crisis, as he has reminded us a time or two. Those were very tough days, and any fair measure of his record has to take that into account. My home state voted for President Obama. When he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory.

A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: “I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.” That’s what he said in 2008.
 
Well, as it turned out, that plant didn’t last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And that’s how it is in so many towns today, where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight.
 
The Washington Post, and a host of other liberal media outlets, are calling this passage “misleading” because the Janesville plant “closed before the president was inaugurated.” The Post is dead wrong. Here are the facts:
 
1. On February 13, 2008 Obama said in Janesville : “I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.”
 
2. In June 2008 GM announced that the Janesville plant would stop production of medium-duty trucks by the end of 2009, and stop production of large SUVs in 2010 or sooner.
 
3. In October 2008 Obama doubled down on his promise to keep Janesville plant open: “As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America.”
 
4. In December 2008 GM idled production of GM SUVs at the Janesville plant. Medium-duty truck assembly continued.
 
5. In April 2009, four months after Obama was inaugurated, GM idled production of medium-duty trucks.
 
6. In September 2011, more than two years after Obama was inaugurated, GM reiterates that Janesville plant is on “stand by status.” Auto industry observer David Cole, tells the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel it would be premature to say the Janesville plant will never reopen.
 
6. Today the GM facility in Janesville still has not been retooled “so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs,” as Obama promised.

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 07:56:50 AM »
Watched his speech last night...can honestly say ive never seen a more annoying-looking, phony sounding politician in my life...wtf was with his face? He kept making almost zoolander type looks..has the kind of face you just want to smash

Oh and he sounded about as genuine as michael jacksons face.

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2012, 08:03:14 AM »
Watched his speech last night...can honestly say ive never seen a more annoying-looking, phony sounding politician in my life...wtf was with his face? He kept making almost zoolander type looks..has the kind of face you just want to smash

Oh and he sounded about as genuine as michael jacksons face.

He will ABSOLUTELY crush Joe Biden in any type of public debate....it will be a prison rape type owning.

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2012, 08:44:21 AM »
He will ABSOLUTELY crush Joe Biden in any type of public debate....it will be a prison rape type owning.

Lol who cares? Biden is completely irrelevent and ryan is the very definition of a smug, hollow self serving politician. Actual facts and truths play no part in an american political debate

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2012, 11:02:40 AM »

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2012, 12:22:34 PM »
^lol

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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2012, 12:30:41 PM »


Is he sticking it to Obama because he has failed to create jobs? Kind of hard to make it on your own without a job.
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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2012, 12:40:51 PM »
Newsflash.  ALL POLITICIANS ARE LIARS.

Word to your mother on this.
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Re: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2012, 01:02:35 PM »
Lol who cares? Biden is completely irrelevent and ryan is the very definition of a smug, hollow self serving politician. Actual facts and truths play no part in an american political debate

"smug, hollow self serving politician" = Barack Obama

Biden is only considered irrelevant because the Dems realized their messiah picked a total fuck-up as V.P.