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Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« on: August 31, 2012, 10:27:20 AM »
http://www.hulu.com/watch/396903

Just listen to the facts

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 10:30:10 AM »
http://www.hulu.com/watch/396903

Just listen to the facts

listening to some commentators last night who were speculating that Romney/Ryan know that they can lie about shit because most people on the right just don't really give a shit

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2012, 10:31:11 AM »
http://www.hulu.com/watch/396903

Just listen to the facts

hahahaha Rudy Giuliani
"when people give speeches every fact isnt totally accurate"

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2012, 10:32:15 AM »
http://www.hulu.com/watch/396903

Just listen to the facts

The facts are that the fact checkers are full of shit and have been exposed themselves for being partisan hacks trying to prop up obama's disaster of a presidency.  

When all you have are comedians and jokers who spin turds from oVOMIT, you know you are finished.  


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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2012, 10:49:00 AM »
The facts are that the fact checkers are full of shit and have been exposed themselves for being partisan hacks trying to prop up obama's disaster of a presidency.  

When all you have are comedians and jokers who spin turds from oVOMIT, you know you are finished.  

speaking of jokers

If I were going to act like do I would go find all the posts where you said Obama was going to drop out/be forced out and just keep bumping them

remember when I asked you to bet and you were too much of a pussy to put your money on the line?

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2012, 10:49:22 AM »
The Media's 'Fact Check' Smokescreen


Posted 08/30/2012 06:58 PM ET





Journalism: If media "fact checkers" are just impartial guardians of the truth, how come they got their own facts wrong about Paul Ryan's speech, and did so in a way that helped President Obama's re-election effort?
 
Case in point was the rush of "fact check" stories claiming Ryan misled when he talked about a shuttered auto plant in his home state.
 
Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler posted a piece — "Ryan misleads on GM plant closing in hometown" — saying Ryan "appeared to suggest" that Obama was responsible for the closure of a GM plant in Janesville, Wis.
 
"That's not true," Kessler said. "The plant was closed in December 2008, before Obama was sworn in."
 
What's not true are Kessler's "facts." Ryan didn't suggest Obama was responsible for shuttering the plant. Instead, he correctly noted that Obama promised during the campaign that the troubled plant "will be here for another hundred years" if his policies were enacted.
 
Also, the plant didn't close in December 2008. It was still producing cars until April 2009.
 
An AP "fact check" also claimed that "the plant halted production in December 2008" even though the AP itself reported in April 2009 that the plant was only then "closing for good."
 
CNN's John King made the same claim about that plant closure. But when CNN looked more carefully at the evidence, it — to its credit — concluded that what Ryan said was "true."
 

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Media fact-checkers also complained about Ryan's charge that Obama is cutting $716 billion from Medicare to fund ObamaCare. Not true, they said. Medicare's growth is just being slowed.
 
But Obama achieves that slower growth by making real cuts in provider payments. And in any case, the media always and everywhere call a reduction in the rate of federal spending growth a "cut." So why suddenly charge Ryan with being misleading for using that same term?
 
In any case, Obama himself admitted that he's doing what Ryan says. In a November 2009 interview with ABC News, reporter Jake Tapper said to Obama that "one-third of the funding comes from cuts to Medicare," to which Obama's response was: "Right."
 
The rest of Ryan's alleged factual errors aren't errors at all; it's just that the media didn't like how he said it. But since when is it a fact-checker's job to decide how a politician should construct his arguments?
 
This isn't to say that journalists shouldn't check facts. Of course they should.
 
The problem is that the mainstream press is now abusing the "fact check" label, using it to more aggressively push a liberal agenda without feeling the need to provide any balance whatsoever. And, as the reaction to the Ryan speech shows, they are now blatantly using it to provide air support for Obama.
 
Is it any wonder that soon after Ryan's speech ended, the Obama campaign rushed out an ad using the media's "fact check" stories as its source?
 
http://news.investors.com/print/ibd-editorials/083012-624188-so-called-fact-checks-disguise-media-liberal-agenda.aspx


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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2012, 10:51:31 AM »
speaking of jokers

If I were going to act like do I would go find all the posts where you said Obama was going to drop out/be forced out and just keep bumping them

remember when I asked you to bet and you were too much of a pussy to put your money on the line?

I am actually glad he is staying him and destroying your party.  Obama is the biggest albatross around the democrat party in decades. 

 

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2012, 10:53:45 AM »
Shitty journalists set-up "fact checks" and morons fall over themselves to defend their opinionated "fact checking". How sad.

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 10:54:45 AM »
I am actually glad he is staying him and destroying your party.  Obama is the biggest albatross around the democrat party in decades.  

how does that change the fact that you said many many many times that he was either going to quit or be forced out?


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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 10:59:03 AM »
how does that change the fact that you said many many many times that he was either going to quit or be forced out?



I was wrong since I did not believe that the democrat party would race off the cliff w obama after the disaster in 2010, but low and behold your stupid ass party wants to ram the iceberg for a second time.

Good luck - obama is taking all of you down. 

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 10:59:29 AM »
The Media's 'Fact Check' Smokescreen


Posted 08/30/2012 06:58 PM ET





Journalism: If media "fact checkers" are just impartial guardians of the truth, how come they got their own facts wrong about Paul Ryan's speech, and did so in a way that helped President Obama's re-election effort?
 
Case in point was the rush of "fact check" stories claiming Ryan misled when he talked about a shuttered auto plant in his home state.
 
Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler posted a piece — "Ryan misleads on GM plant closing in hometown" — saying Ryan "appeared to suggest" that Obama was responsible for the closure of a GM plant in Janesville, Wis.
 
"That's not true," Kessler said. "The plant was closed in December 2008, before Obama was sworn in."
 
What's not true are Kessler's "facts." Ryan didn't suggest Obama was responsible for shuttering the plant. Instead, he correctly noted that Obama promised during the campaign that the troubled plant "will be here for another hundred years" if his policies were enacted.
 
Also, the plant didn't close in December 2008. It was still producing cars until April 2009.
An AP "fact check" also claimed that "the plant halted production in December 2008" even though the AP itself reported in April 2009 that the plant was only then "closing for good."
 
CNN's John King made the same claim about that plant closure. But when CNN looked more carefully at the evidence, it — to its credit — concluded that what Ryan said was "true."
 

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Media fact-checkers also complained about Ryan's charge that Obama is cutting $716 billion from Medicare to fund ObamaCare. Not true, they said. Medicare's growth is just being slowed.
 
But Obama achieves that slower growth by making real cuts in provider payments. And in any case, the media always and everywhere call a reduction in the rate of federal spending growth a "cut." So why suddenly charge Ryan with being misleading for using that same term?
 
In any case, Obama himself admitted that he's doing what Ryan says. In a November 2009 interview with ABC News, reporter Jake Tapper said to Obama that "one-third of the funding comes from cuts to Medicare," to which Obama's response was: "Right."
 
The rest of Ryan's alleged factual errors aren't errors at all; it's just that the media didn't like how he said it. But since when is it a fact-checker's job to decide how a politician should construct his arguments?
 
This isn't to say that journalists shouldn't check facts. Of course they should.
 
The problem is that the mainstream press is now abusing the "fact check" label, using it to more aggressively push a liberal agenda without feeling the need to provide any balance whatsoever. And, as the reaction to the Ryan speech shows, they are now blatantly using it to provide air support for Obama.
 
Is it any wonder that soon after Ryan's speech ended, the Obama campaign rushed out an ad using the media's "fact check" stories as its source?
 
http://news.investors.com/print/ibd-editorials/083012-624188-so-called-fact-checks-disguise-media-liberal-agenda.aspx



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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 11:32:41 AM »
Romney and Ryan didn't lie about everything.

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 12:08:59 PM »
Romney and Ryan didn't lie about everything.

LOL.   Obama took office the debt was 9-10 trillion.   TODAY IT IS 16 TRILLION!   

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2012, 01:27:17 PM »
I was wrong,,,. 
on so many things.
get used to saying this after the election.
w

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 01:29:09 PM »
on so many things.
get used to saying this after the election.


LOL


You gay mesdiah is following Romney to the gulf.   

Landslide coming 

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 01:31:19 PM »
how can you be a lawyer if your on here 24/7 ,somebodys telling a ryan  :D

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 01:31:47 PM »
on so many things.
get used to saying this after the election.

Get used to saying what? You honestly think Obama will do anything to fix this country if he's reelected? And if you do, on what can you base it? Certainly not on the last 4 years.

Romney will fucking blow, too.

how can you be a lawyer if your on here 24/7 ,somebodys telling a ryan  :D

You're on here all fucking day. You're even pathetic enough to bounce between half a dozen gimmicks.  ::)

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 01:34:55 PM »
Get used to saying what? You honestly think Obama will do anything to fix this country if he's reelected? And if you do, on what can you base it? Certainly not on the last 4 years.

Romney will fucking blow, too.

You're on here all fucking day. You're even pathetic enough to bounce between half a dozen gimmicks.  ::)

Gays, blacks, guilt ridden white leftists, communists, marxists, welfare thugs, Section 8ers, all have an emotional love affair w obama not connected to his job performance.


 

 

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2012, 01:48:26 PM »
You're on here all fucking day. You're even pathetic enough to bounce between half a dozen gimmicks.  ::)

LOL...How sweet

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2012, 01:50:30 PM »
I like how 3333 has worked this.  Everyone is full of shit except for him.  All the fact checking shit that's been used here by left and right for years, yea, it's all crap now.  Yes, many used snopes until this election but now it's crap too.  So don't go to politifact, factcheck or snopes for any additional info.  If you want to know the truth, there's really only one source for that and that's 333386!  He's built a reliable collection of rightwing sources that only deal with facts!!!  It's true I tell you!!!!

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2012, 01:51:17 PM »
Get used to saying what? You honestly think Obama will do anything to fix this country if he's reelected? And if you do, on what can you base it? Certainly not on the last 4 years.

Romney will fucking blow, too.

You're on here all fucking day. You're even pathetic enough to bounce between half a dozen gimmicks.  ::)

i don't remember asking for a nerdy guys opinion  :D

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2012, 01:51:50 PM »
I like how 3333 has worked this.  Everyone is full of shit except for him.  All the fact checking shit that's been used here by left and right for years, yea, it's all crap now.  Yes, many used snopes until this election but now it's crap too.  So don't go to politifact, factcheck or snopes for any additional info.  If you want to know the truth, there's really only one source for that and that's 333386!  He's built a reliable collection of rightwing sources that only deal with facts!!!  It's true I tell you!!!!

Forbes / IBD  both blew those partisan hacks right out of the water.  


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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2012, 01:52:10 PM »
I like how 3333 has worked this.  Everyone is full of shit except for him.  All the fact checking shit that's been used here by left and right for years, yea, it's all crap now.  Yes, many used snopes until this election but now it's crap too.  So don't go to politifact, factcheck or snopes for any additional info.  If you want to know the truth, there's really only one source for that and that's 333386!  He's built a reliable collection of rightwing sources that only deal with facts!!!  It's true I tell you!!!!


 :D :D :D :D :D :D
how true

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2012, 01:53:23 PM »

 :D :D :D :D :D :D
how true

Go refute anything i posted in your thread.   Please even try to make an attempt 

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Re: Ryan destroyed by Stewart...
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2012, 01:55:17 PM »
i post  your bullshit all the time,don't make it sound like your the true teller on this site,your far from it  :D :D :D :D