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Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« on: September 05, 2012, 12:32:20 PM »
Flex thinks he should have won.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2012, 12:45:26 PM »

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2012, 01:00:03 PM »




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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2012, 01:14:57 PM »
Who's the little dude?

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2012, 01:17:35 PM »
Who's the little dude?

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Flavio Baccianini.  See him in person all the time.  Still a hottie.  :P

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2012, 01:37:35 PM »
Well he is fucking 100% right.
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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2012, 01:42:12 PM »
Flex thinks he should have won.

Two options, then:

*He's as stupid as a cold sack of shit

*He's out of his fucking mind

... or maybe both. 

Keep in mind Flex also thought he should've beaten Ronnie in either '98 or '99.  What he "thinks" carries less weight than a paraplegic garbageman. 

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2012, 01:44:47 PM »
It's funny:  in the years after that show, Flex kissed Dorian's ass, saying he knew he could never beat Yates but "second place was his."  Early onset dementia?

Fact is, Shawn Ray nearly took that second place trophy from him in 1993.  And Dorian was so far beyond the two of them it was hilarious.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2012, 01:48:28 PM »
It's funny:  in the years after that show, Flex kissed Dorian's ass, saying he knew he could never beat Yates but "second place was his."  Early onset dementia?

Fact is, Shawn Ray nearly took that second place trophy from him in 1993.  And Dorian was so far beyond the two of them it was hilarious.
This.
They all knew it was a competition for second place.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2012, 01:48:43 PM »
Flex thinks he should have won.

I truly believe this: If Flex would have turned pro one year earlier, and shown up at the 92 Olympia in the shape he did in 1993, he would have beat Dorian and Levrone.

Flex, unfortunately, got lost in the hype of 93 when everyone was freaked out by Yates. It's hard for judges not to want to reward someone who literally transforms themselves, like Yates did. It clouds the issue of trying to be objective. Not saying they weren't objective in 93 - Yates deserved to woin. But in 92, he wasn't that special vs 91. Flex would have made a more tremendous impact, and could have taken the show. Particularly if his run-up to thtee 92 O had been winning the Arnold/Ironman/SanJose/French/Germany Grand Prix, like he did in 93.

After 93, it was all over for Flex. He never showed up to the Olympia in awesome shape until 1998 when Dorian was gone. But in 1994 or 1997, if Flex had shown up in his 1993 shape (or even in 1998 Arnold shape), he would have won and beat Dorian - he was just too strong. Nothing was going to beat Dorian's 1995 or 1993 physique, but 1994 was beatable, as was 1997 by an in-shape Wheeler. 1996 and 1992 are debatable, though I think it could have happened.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 01:50:16 PM »
I truly believe this: If Flex would have turned pro one year earlier, and shown up at the 92 Olympia in the shape he did in 1993, he would have beat Dorian and Levrone.

Flex, unfortunately, got lost in the hype of 93 when everyone was freaked out by Yates. It's hard for judges not to want to reward someone who literally transforms themselves, like Yates did. It clouds the issue of trying to be objective. Not saying they weren't objective in 93 - Yates deserved to woin. But in 92, he wasn't that special vs 91. Flex would have made a more tremendous impact, and could have taken the show. Particularly if his run-up to thtee 92 O had been winning the Arnold/Ironman/SanJose/French/Germany Grand Prix, like he did in 93.

After 93, it was all over for Flex. He never showed up to the Olympia in awesome shape until 1998 when Dorian was gone. But in 1994 or 1997, if Flex had shown up in his 1993 shape (or even in 1998 Arnold shape), he would have won and beat Dorian - he was just too strong. Nothing was going to beat Dorian's 1995 or 1993 physique, but 1994 was beatable, as was 1997 by an in-shape Wheeler. 1996 and 1992 are debatable, though I think it could have happened.

He wasnt qualified for the 92 O. He had just won the USA a few months prior.

Flex should have been 3rd at the 93 O. Shawn DESTROYED him

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2012, 01:52:19 PM »
I'm surprised that a man who did measure his bf at 0% would make such a claim. Probably ninjas forced him to make that claim.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2012, 01:54:11 PM »
It's funny:  in the years after that show, Flex kissed Dorian's ass, saying he knew he could never beat Yates but "second place was his."  Early onset dementia?

Fact is, Shawn Ray nearly took that second place trophy from him in 1993.  And Dorian was so far beyond the two of them it was hilarious.


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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2012, 01:57:17 PM »
Compare them in the compulsories from an angle fair to all, and we'll talk about my replacement eyes.

Not to evoke a bandwagon appeal, but ... you do know you've got to be about a half-dozen people aside from Flex who actually think he beat Dorian in '93, right? 


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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2012, 02:03:40 PM »
1993 Dorian beats Flex , Flex proclaims he's ' unbeatable ' even admitted he felt lucky to place ahead of the better conditioned Shawn Ray , 18 years latter he thinks he should have won lol


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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2012, 02:04:59 PM »
Well, understanding judging criteria Dorian did kill everyone at this contest (not that I agree with it). But from a personal opinion, Flex looked much better, more aesthetic.

And bigmikecox, Shawn destroyed Flex? .....LMAO  ;D
When Flex was on, Shawn was not even close....Flex was in another league.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2012, 02:06:41 PM »
Well, understanding judging criteria Dorian did kill everyone at this contests (not that I agree with it). But from a personal opinion, Flex looked much better, more aesthetic.

And bigmikecox, Shawn destroyed Flex? .....LMAO  ;D
When Flex was on, Shawn was not even close....Flex was in another league.

I tend to agree, but Shawn was ON in 1993.  Flex was still pretty fucking awesome at the Olympia, but Shawn pushed him.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2012, 02:06:59 PM »
It wasn't even close that year - irrespective of the contest itself, Dorian had already psyched them all out prior to the competition by revealing the famous black and white Temple Gym shots that still look freaky 20 years later.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2012, 02:07:35 PM »
Dorian > Flex in 93. Flex getting all nostalgic on himself doesn't change that.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2012, 02:08:21 PM »
Had Flex won in either 93 or 98, we wouldn't be seeing the bloated sack of ish that we see today. Possibly, if Flex won, due to his connections with Dr. Dre, bbing would have become "slightly" more popular or mainstream.
But, Flex would have still gotten sick, he had gotten sick when he did the spring shows in 93.
It was just not to be.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2012, 02:08:47 PM »
Well, understanding judging criteria Dorian did kill everyone at this contest (not that I agree with it). But from a personal opinion, Flex looked much better, more aesthetic.

And bigmikecox, Shawn destroyed Flex? .....LMAO  ;D
When Flex was on, Shawn was not even close....Flex was in another league.

Flex admitted that he felt lucky to place ahead of him in 1993 , Flex was worn out from the spring shows his body had enough , Shawn was much sharper

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2012, 02:14:17 PM »
He wasnt qualified for the 92 O. He had just won the USA a few months prior.



I know. That's why I said if he had done what he did (turn pro, win all those shows) a year earlier, he might have been Mr O in 1992. But he rolled into his first Mr O in 1993 instead...the year Dorian was unbeatable.

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2012, 02:14:28 PM »
Flex admitted that he felt lucky to place ahead of him in 1993 , Flex was worn out from the spring shows his body had enough , Shawn was much sharper

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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2012, 02:16:28 PM »
It wasn't even close that year - irrespective of the contest itself, Dorian had already psyched them all out prior to the competition by revealing the famous black and white Temple Gym shots that still look freaky 20 years later.


He never surpassed those shots for the rest of his career, which is a shame. He never brought anything like that to an O stage.

Having said that tons of bodybuilders have freaky gym shots, its different bringing it onstage.
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Re: Just to clarify...93 Mr.O
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2012, 02:17:33 PM »
Flex wasn't better than Shawn in '93.