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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #150 on: September 14, 2012, 08:22:15 AM »
I said we should stay out of Libya's mess also, so on that I agree with you, however, I do not solely blame Obama...While he certainly did something stupid in supporting the overthrow of Gaddafi, I also hold those who committed the crimes responsible as well.

Do I believe he is partly to blame? Yes... absolutely.
 

If it were contained to Lybia - thats one thing - but we toppled a lot of govts over there and gave the MB everything hook line and sinker.

Embassy in Tunisia on fire today too. 

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #151 on: September 14, 2012, 08:23:53 AM »
If it were contained to Lybia - thats one thing - but we toppled a lot of govts over there and gave the MB everything hook line and sinker.

Embassy in Tunisia on fire today too. 

That's why I have always said, if you harm my people, consider your  country a pane of glass, because that's all you're going to be when I'm through with you.

Serious question. Do you think that it's possible that anyone in the US would back something like this to make Obama specifically look weak on foreign policy?

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #152 on: September 14, 2012, 08:25:02 AM »
That's why I have always said, if you harm my people, consider your  country a pane of glass, because that's all you're going to be when I'm through with you.

Serious question. Do you think that it's possible that anyone in the US would back something like this to make Obama specifically look weak on foreign policy?

Anything is possible. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/anti-islam-film-protests_n_1883474.html#liveblog


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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #153 on: September 14, 2012, 10:51:40 AM »
BREAKING!!Libya closes Benghazi airport after Islamists fire at U.S. drones
 haaretz ^ | 9/14/2012 | ha


Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 1:42:12 PM


Libya closed its air space over Benghazi airport temporarily because of heavy anti-aircraft fire by Islamists aiming at U.S. reconnaissance drones flying over the city, days after the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans were killed in an attack.

The closure of the airport prompted speculation that the United States was deploying special forces in preparation for an attack against the militants who were involved.

A Libyan official said the spy planes flew over the embassy compound and the city, taking photos and inspecting locations of radical militant groups who are believed to have planned and staged the attack on the U.S. consulate on Tuesday.

Militants used anti-aircraft guns to fire at the drones, forcing the authorities to shut the airport because they feared for the safety of passenger planes. "Two American drones flew over Benghazi last night with knowledge of the Libyan authorities," Deputy Interior Minister, Wanis al-Sharif told Reuters.

"They were visible to the eye, and came under attack by anti-aircraft weapons used by armed militias."

"For this reason, Benghazi security decided to close down the Benghazi airport air space. Any decision to allow an operation of any sort on Libya soil will be made in coordination with the congress and the new government."

Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the other Americans died after gunmen attacked the lightly fortified U.S. consulate and a safe house refuge in Benghazi on Tuesday night. The attack, which U.S. officials believe could have been planned in advance, emerged from a protest blaming America for a film they said insulted the Prophet Mohammed.

At least four international UN staff running the United Nations mission in Benghazi pulled out on Friday for security reasons, a UN source said. Several Western diplomats including the Italian consul have also left the city, according to Libyan officials


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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #154 on: September 14, 2012, 10:56:46 AM »
Obama to welcome home remains of Americans killed in Libya
 Yahoo News ^ | 14 Sep 2012 | Olivier Knox,

Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 1:52:42 PM by mandaladon

President Barack Obama will travel to Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington on Friday to welcome home the remains of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and the three other Americans killed in an attack on the consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

"The President and Secretary Clinton will attend the Transfer of Remains Ceremony marking the return to the United States of the remains of the four Americans killed this week in Benghazi, Libya; the President and Secretary Clinton will deliver brief remarks," the White House said in a statement.

Obama's attendance, announced at the last minute, came as protests spread at American diplomatic facilities across northern Africa, the Mideast and Asia. Demonstrators stormed the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt, on Tuesday, tore down the American flag and replaced it with an Islamist banner. The embassy in Yemen came under attack on Thursday.

The president has been working the phones with leaders in the region, calling those in Egypt, Libya and Yemen to urge greater security for American facilities. He has also ordered special Marine units tasked with protecting—and, if necessary, evacuating—embassies and consulates to both Libya and Yemen.


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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #155 on: September 14, 2012, 12:54:49 PM »
Absolutely love this. 

Posted on September 13, 2012 by Paul Mirengoff in 2012 Presidential Election, Egypt, Libya, Mitt Romney
What is “Chicago way” Obama prepared to do?

Bill Otis offers another suggestion for how Mitt Romney should address the atrocity in Libya and his opponents’ claims that Romney erred in criticizing the Obama administration’s initial statement about that atrocity. I post Bill’s suggested statement because it is a near-perfect expression of how I view the matter. Whether it would be politicially wise for Romney to make this statement is a separate question. My inclination would be to go for it.

The ostensible cause of the escalating violence against our embassies and our diplomatic representatives is anger by some Muslims at a film mocking the Prophet Mohammed. The United States honors freedom of speech as a universal human right as well as an American constitutional right. That means that the filmmakers are free, without government interference, to produce and market their message; and others, of any religion and wherever they may be, are free peacefully to protest it.

When the protest turns violent, however — and still more when it turns into murder, with a United States Ambassador’s corpse paraded through the streets — a line has been crossed. When I am President, therefore, I will issue the following order to our embassy security personnel: Any deliberate and hostile intrusion onto the grounds of a United States embassy or consulate is to be repelled by force. If the force needed is shooting to kill, that is to be the force applied. American lives and American property are not the playthings for our enemies, whether free-lance mobs or government-controlled mobs. If our enemies don’t know this — and under the current administration, they don’t — it’s time for them to find out.

I also want to note that freedom of speech extends to political debates in the United States, including the debates about the policy and conduct of our country that are the whole reason political campaigns exist, not to mention being at the very heart of the Constitutional framework our forefathers designed. President Obama, who showed no compunction about blaming his predecessor for foreign crises that occurred before January 2009, is in no position to take the scoundrel’s refuge of patriotism by trying to muzzle those who doubt his current strategy of apology and weakness. The President’s policy, which increases the danger to American lives and sovereignty, is a vitally important question in the vote our country will be taking in a little more than 50 days. Stifling a discusssion of that policy is not something the American people want or will tolerate; indeed, stifling robust debate is, as the Democratic Party once understood in the dark days of Joe McCarthy, fundamenatally unAmerican.

The attempt to bully and intimidate Mr. Obama’s critics is not the answer. Indeed it’s not even the question. The question is what is Mr. Obama going to do about this murderous outrage — not what he’s going to say, or the protest notes he’s going to write, or the aimless “consultations” he’s going to plan, or the next hour-long speech he’s going to give.

When our Ambassador’s body is paraded through the streets, the answer is not high-minded talk followed by more high-minded talk. The answer is to act in unapologetic and unambiguous defense of American sovereignty and lives.

Mr. Obama, what are you going to do?

Or, as Sean Connery put it, “what are you prepared to do.”

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/09/what-is-chicago-way-obama-prepared-to-do.php

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #156 on: September 14, 2012, 12:56:22 PM »
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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #157 on: September 14, 2012, 02:31:37 PM »
Breaking: Libyan Official Confirms Benghazi Assault a Pre-Planned Militant Attack Timed for 9-11
 pj media ^ | 9-14-12

Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 2:19:27 PM by doug from upland

Breaking: Libyan Official Confirms Benghazi Assault a Pre-Planned Militant Attack Timed for 9-11

The film blamed for the riots: far less relevant to the attacks than the date on which they occurred.

A senior security official says the attack that killed four Americans in Libya, including the U.S. ambassador, was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on a supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces were arriving to rescue evacuated consulate staff.

Wanis al-Sharef, eastern Libya’s deputy interior minister, said on Thursday the attacks were suspected to have been timed to mark the 9/11 anniversary and that the militants used civilians protesting an anti-Islam film as cover for their action.

This confirmation puts the murder, and reported rape, of Ambassador Christopher Stevens into the category of assassination.

The Obama administration’s handling of this has played directly into the terrorists’ hands, humiliating the U.S. on the anniversary of the deadliest terror attack ever perpetrated on our soil. Instead of focusing on the timing and purpose of the attacks, the administration keeps mentioning the film.

It’s clear that the film is a pretext, and may even be another taqiyya scam similar to the Danish cartoon campaign.

The usual suspects are waging war on the United States, and our president either doesn’t realize it or is being dishonest about what is really going on

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #158 on: September 14, 2012, 02:36:13 PM »
PJ Media is a media company and operator of an eponymous conservative
opinion and commentary website.   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D   and what did rush say  :D

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #159 on: September 14, 2012, 04:41:10 PM »
State Department Denies Holding Up Blackwater Libya Contract
BuzzFeed.com ^ | September 14, 2012 | Michael Hastings
Posted on September 14, 2012 4:51:33 PM EDT by Daffynition

The State Department is denying charges it held up a security contract to protect the U.S. Ambassador in volatile post-conflict Libya.

On an appearance last night on Piers Morgan Tonight , former Romney and United Nations spokesperson Ric Grenell said he’d been told by State Department officials that Academi “was set to go in and provide security for the Ambassador in Libya.”

“They have been waiting,” Grenell said. “They've done some preliminary evaluations, but for two months, they have been waiting while the State Department decides to get the paperwork right."

A second source with ties to Foggy Bottom confirmed the substance of Grenell's account to BuzzFeed.

But State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland issued a blanket denial this morning of the claim that State Department red tape held up a contract with the firm.

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #160 on: September 15, 2012, 05:24:08 PM »
Hillary Celebrates End of Ramadan at State Department with Libyan Ambassador
CNSNews ^
Posted on September 14, 2012 8:05:19 PM EDT by Sub-Driver

Hillary Celebrates End of Ramadan at State Department with Libyan Ambassador By Penny Starr September 14, 2012

(CNSNews.com) – At an event officials say was planned before the attacks in Libya that killed four Americans on Sept. 11, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Libyan Ambassador to the U.S., Ali Aujali, celebrated the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan at the State Department on Thursday.

The Eid ul-Fitr reception was held almost a month after the official end of the month on Aug. 19, delayed, officials say, because of Clinton’s travel schedule.

“The date [of the reception] was set purely because of scheduling considerations, especially given lengthy travel abroad recently,” a State Department spokesman told CNSNews.com via email.

The spokesman provided a copy of the Secretary’s schedule, showing that Thursday’s event was scheduled about 24 hours ahead of the attack on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi that resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

“Although I am many weeks overdue in saying it: Eid Mubarak,” Clinton said. “No matter how belated we are honoring Eid and the end of Ramadan, this is a cherished tradition here at the State Department.”

Clinton acknowledged the deaths, saying, “Tonight, our gathering is more somber than any of us would like. This comes during sad and difficult days for the State Department family.

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #161 on: September 15, 2012, 05:42:52 PM »
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Official: No Marines in Libya at time of Benghazi attack
The Washington Times ^ | September 15, 2012 | Kristina Wong
Posted on September 15, 2012 4:46:37 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet

No U.S. Marines were in Libya when protesters stormed a diplomatic mission in the eastern city of Benghazi and killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans late Tuesday, a senior Obama administration official said Saturday.

The official’s comments contradict earlier reports of a small Marine presence at State Department facilities in the North African nation.

The U.S. diplomatic compound breached Tuesday by Libyan protesters in Benghazi had a relatively light security posture compared to diplomatic facilities in other conflict zones.

Marines are guarding diplomatic facilities in Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen, Defense Press Secretary George Little told reporters Thursday.

“The State Department has the lead for embassy security around the world. Naturally, if they ask for our advice in given situations, we’ll offer it up, no question about it,” Mr. Little said in response to a question about who plans security at embassies and diplomatic facilities.

Part of the reason Marines were not stationed at the Benghazi compound is that it is not an embassy or consulate, but a “diplomatic mission,” officials said.

In some conflict zones, State Department officials work in buildings other than embassies or consulates in order to conduct “expeditionary diplomacy” — establishing an initial presence and building a relationship with locals, as in post-revolution Libya, officials said.

Senior administration officials described the facility in Benghazi as an “interim” one that the State Department had acquired before the fall of dictator Moammar Gadhafi, consisting of a main building and several ancillary buildings, as well as an annex farther away....

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #162 on: September 15, 2012, 06:13:27 PM »
White House says 'no intelligence’ could have been acted on to prevent attacks (blame the video)
The Hill ^ | 9/14/12 | Jonathan Easley
Posted on September 15, 2012 5:15:25 PM EDT by Libloather

White House says 'no intelligence’ could have been acted on to prevent attacks
By Jonathan Easley - 09/14/12 12:40 PM ET

The White House on Friday said a report stating the president failed to act on knowledge of a potential attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was “absolutely wrong.”

White House press secretary Jay Carney said there was “no actionable intelligence” ahead of the attack that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens.

“There was no intelligence that could in any way have been acted on to prevent these attacks,” he said. “The report was false.”

Embassies in Egypt, Yemen and Tunisia have been attacked by mobs protesting an anti-Islamic video circulating on the Internet.

Republican lawmakers have said the attack on the Libyan consulate, which took place on the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, looked more like a coordinated effort by militants.

But Carney on Friday said there was no evidence it was a planned terrorist assassination. He said it appeared that, like the embassy storming in Cairo, Egypt, the attack was sparked by a trailer circulating on the Internet for a supposed anti-Islam film.

“We have no information to suggest it was a pre-planned attack,” Carney said. “The unrest we’ve seen across the region was in response to a video ... not in response to a 9/11 anniversary, that we know of.”

A report in the UK newspaper The Independent on Thursday said “the U.S. State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and ‘lockdown,’ under which movement is severely restricted.”

The report cited anonymous senior diplomatic sources, and received wide attention in the United States after a link to the Drudge Report.

Carney put the full blame of the Middle East unrest on the video, saying the reason the embassies seemed unprepared to deal with the attacks was because of the unpredictable Muslim reaction to the obscure film.

“What we have seen is unrest around the region in response to a video that Muslims find offensive,” he said. “We have seen incidents like this in the past in reaction to other actions, cartoons, other actions taken that have led to protests and violence in the region and we have managed those situations and we are working to ensure that our diplomatic personnel ... are secure as we deal with response to this video.”

The administration has also been criticized by some who say Stevens, the ambassador to Libya, was not adequately protected. There are conflicting and still emerging reports about whether his security detail was sufficiently armed to deal with an attack.

“It was unfortunately not enough to resist the attacks that we saw,” Carney said. “And it resulted in a tragic loss of life, but there was security. It's also the case that in reaction to this, the president has ordered that we review all of our security arrangements for embassy facilities and other diplomatic facilities around the world.”

President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will make remarks at a return of remains ceremony for the Americans killed in Libya at the Joint Base Andrews this afternoon.

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
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« Reply #164 on: September 15, 2012, 07:23:06 PM »
Hardly Mentioned: 8 Americans Wounded in Benghazi - Local Security Abandoned the Property
Maggie's Notebook ^ | 9-14-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook
Posted on September 15, 2012 10:21:10 PM EDT by maggiesnotebook

The UK Independent article has been quoted many times concerning the news that the US had a 48-hour warning before the Cairo Embassy and Benghazi Consulate attacks, but little has been known about another 8 Americans wounded, some of them Military, or that the 30+ force of Libyan guards on the property abandoned it, for the most part. Also, news that the Consulate had just had a "security health check," by local sources, due to the coming day of 9/11, and apparently passed. A pressing question: how badly wounded are these 8 Americans. Other than emotional scars, will they bear life-alternating physical limitations? UPDATE: Some later reports say 14 were wounded, but I haven't found confirmation, or clarification that they were all Americans.


According to security sources the consulate had been given a "health check" in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary. In the event, the perimeter was breached within 15 minutes of an angry crowd starting to attack it at around 10pm on Tuesday night.
There was, according to witnesses, little defence put up by the 30 or more local guards meant to protect the staff. Ali Fetori, a 59-year-old accountant who lives near by, said: "The security people just all ran away and the people in charge were the young men with guns and bombs."

Maybe the State Department will try to help Mr. Ali Fetori get himself and his family out of the country. His future is grim now that his name and his story is in western news. Hopefully we learned something from the arrest of the Pakistani doctor who aided us in the bin Laden raid, but is now in prison.
Mr Stevens, it is believed, was left in the building by the rest of the staff after they failed to find him in dense smoke caused by a blaze which had engulfed the building. He was discovered lying unconscious by local people and taken to a hospital, the Benghazi Medical Centre, where, according to a doctor, Ziad Abu Ziad, he died from smoke inhalation.

An eight-strong American rescue team was sent from Tripoli and taken by troops under Captain Fathi al- Obeidi, of the February 17 Brigade, to the secret safe house to extract around 40 US staff. The building then came under fire from heavy weapons. "I don't know how they found the place to carry out the attack. It was planned, the accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any ordinary revolutionaries," said Captain Obeidi. "It began to rain down on us, about six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa." UK Independent

Libyan reinforcements eventually arrived, and the attack ended. News had arrived of Mr Stevens, and his body was picked up from the hospital and taken back to Tripoli with the other dead and the survivors.

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #165 on: September 16, 2012, 05:46:37 AM »
O the apologist
By MICHAEL GOODWIN
Last Updated: 5:05 AM, September 16, 2012
Posted: 12:40 AM, September 16, 2012
According to President Obama’s narrative, the murder of four Americans in Libya is a story of “senseless violence” provoked by an anti-Islam video. According to his Praetorian Guards in the media, the story is how Mitt Romney rudely criticized Obama’s foreign policy.

Here’s the real story: The murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others is the most important terrorist attack on American civilians since 9/11. And it happened on the 11th anniversary of that day of infamy, on Obama’s watch.

There were no Marines on guard, and there are reports that the Benghazi embassy had been warned of an al Qaeda assault, yet there were no precautions. It is likely the organized attackers, some carrying rocket-propelled grenades, had inside information about a “safe house,” where they killed two of the Americans.

Obama, after offering condolences and vowing to find those responsible, flew to a campaign event in Vegas.

If that were all, it would be reason enough to doubt his competency and character. But it’s not all.

The crisis, including riots at our embassies in 20 countries, is the full flowering of a policy predicated on appeasement and apology. To borrow a phrase, the Obama chickens are coming home to roost.

The essence of his doomed approach is revealed in Obama’s refusal to meet with the prime minister of Israel while finding time to meet with the Muslim Brotherhood president of Egypt. The choice raises a fundamental question: Whose side are you on, Mr. President?

To ask is to concede despair. Starting with his Cairo speech in 2009, Obama promised a “new beginning” in our relations with Muslims. Had the comment been a marketing tool for a new administration, it would have been understandable. But the speech was far from benign. It foretold the ruinous path he would follow.

In Cairo, Obama insisted that, after 9/11, America “acted contrary to our ideals,” by using torture — a libel against his own country and the warriors who defend it. Under the Obama “ideals,” we follow a “kill or release” protocol, blasting terrorist leaders with drones while freeing all others without interrogation. So death is now more humane than waterboarding.

He suggested in Cairo that Americans harbor bigotry against Muslims, saying, “We cannot disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretense of liberalism.” That, too, was a slander, and the policy corollary is that he says nothing about the slaughter of Christians in Arab lands.

He misstated Mideast history to draw a moral equivalency between Israelis and Palestinians. His portrayal of a “humanitarian crisis” in Gaza was spun of whole cloth, as was his claim that Israeli settlement activity “violates previous agreements and undermines efforts to achieve peace.” As a result, there have been no direct negotiations during his term.

On Iran, he talked as if the mad mullahs and the US are equally responsible for the 30-year rupture, even though Iran was at that moment helping to kill our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. He said, “No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear weapons,” a tip-off to his feckless policy.

The central idea of that speech is that America and Israel are largely to blame for radical Islam. The same instinct drips from the statement issued by Obama’s Cairo representative last Tuesday.

Utterly craven, the statement “condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions . . . we firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”

Deciphering the childish gibberish leads to the conclusion that free speech is OK only until Muslim feelings are hurt. Then we surrender our values to the mob.

In its cockeyed defense, the White House offered conflicting claims: one, that the statement came before the riots began; two, that we should, Obama said, “cut folks a little bit of slack” when they fear for their lives.

Let’s see — there was no riot, but they feared for their lives?

In fact, the embassy reaffirmed the apology twice while the riots raged.

After the statement was online for nearly 10 hours, Mitt Romney called it disgraceful and the White House quickly disavowed it. Until then, the apology for free speech was the sole response from the White House to the day’s events.

And why not? It is perfectly consistent with the last four years.

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #166 on: September 16, 2012, 06:06:42 AM »
You believe that Obama was?

Based on some dude on frontpagemag.com?

Hahaha... man... I like you, but you hate Obama sooooo much that you are willing to believe any kind of nonsense that's thrown around.

I have no doubt in my mind that NO President of the United States would let something like these things happen if they had advanced knowledge of what was going on.

You believe that Obama was?

Based on some dude on frontpagemag.com?

Hahaha... man... I like you, but you hate Obama sooooo much that you are willing to believe any kind of nonsense that's thrown around.

I have no doubt in my mind that NO President of the United States would let something like these things happen if they had advanced knowledge of what was going on.

he believes any one that follows his agenda

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #167 on: September 16, 2012, 06:10:53 AM »
he believes any one that follows his agenda

STFu you piece of garbage.  Obamadinajad handed the ME over to crazies you stupid fuck.

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #168 on: September 16, 2012, 08:39:02 AM »
This is the result of a power vacuum and a fucked up ME policy. Another prime of example of government acting before it considers to consequence. The media blitz and all the other crap is cover, trying to shut the barn door long after the horse left. The whole Obama presidency is smoke and mirrors, with media compliance. Every American should not only be embarrassed, but outraged by the sheer incompetence of this administration and the so called journalist.
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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #169 on: September 16, 2012, 01:49:08 PM »
State Dept. Rules of Engagement Kept Marines out of Tripoli, Benghazi in Libya
Breitbart ^ | September 14, 2012 | Michael Patrick Leahy
Posted on September 16, 2012 2:55:51 PM EDT by yoe

Paul Mirengoff at Powerline (reported) that the Marine Corps issued a statement on Thursday confirming that prior to the September 11 murder of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya, no Marines were stationed in Libya, either at the United States mission in Benghazi or the United States embassy in Tripoli.

The Marine Corps has issued a statement regarding its involvement in the recent actions in Egypt and Libya. ..

In Libya, the Corps says that no Marines are stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli or the Consulate in Benghazi. Security in Libya, such as it existed, apparently was provided by contractors. The Rules of Engagement under which they operated are unclear.

Decisions regarding whether to have Marines at particular U.S. embassies and consulates fall to the State Department, according to the Marine Corps statement. In the case of Tripoli, the Corps says there were discussions with the State Department about establishing a detachment at the embasssy in Tripoli, a new embassy, some time in the next five years. That may seem like a long time, but for bureaucrats it is often considered ASAP.

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #170 on: September 16, 2012, 05:00:47 PM »
State Department Denies Holding Up Blackwater Libya Contract
BuzzFeed.com ^ | September 14, 2012 | Michael Hastings
Posted on September 14, 2012 4:51:33 PM EDT by Daffynition

The State Department is denying charges it held up a security contract to protect the U.S. Ambassador in volatile post-conflict Libya.

On an appearance last night on Piers Morgan Tonight , former Romney and United Nations spokesperson Ric Grenell said he’d been told by State Department officials that Academi “was set to go in and provide security for the Ambassador in Libya.”

“They have been waiting,” Grenell said. “They've done some preliminary evaluations, but for two months, they have been waiting while the State Department decides to get the paperwork right."

A second source with ties to Foggy Bottom confirmed the substance of Grenell's account to BuzzFeed.

But State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland issued a blanket denial this morning of the claim that State Department red tape held up a contract with the firm.

These sources can produce their evidence, and destory Obama.   But they can't make accusations like this without proof. 

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« Reply #171 on: September 16, 2012, 05:08:29 PM »
State Dept. Rules of Engagement Kept Marines out of Tripoli, Benghazi in Libya
Breitbart ^ | September 14, 2012 | Michael Patrick Leahy
Posted on September 16, 2012 2:55:51 PM EDT by yoe

Paul Mirengoff at Powerline (reported) that the Marine Corps issued a statement on Thursday confirming that prior to the September 11 murder of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya, no Marines were stationed in Libya, either at the United States mission in Benghazi or the United States embassy in Tripoli.

The Marine Corps has issued a statement regarding its involvement in the recent actions in Egypt and Libya. ..

In Libya, the Corps says that no Marines are stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli or the Consulate in Benghazi. Security in Libya, such as it existed, apparently was provided by contractors. The Rules of Engagement under which they operated are unclear.

Decisions regarding whether to have Marines at particular U.S. embassies and consulates fall to the State Department, according to the Marine Corps statement. In the case of Tripoli, the Corps says there were discussions with the State Department about establishing a detachment at the embasssy in Tripoli, a new embassy, some time in the next five years. That may seem like a long time, but for bureaucrats it is often considered ASAP.

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #172 on: September 16, 2012, 05:19:20 PM »
Security in Libya, such as it existed, apparently was provided by contractors. The Rules of Engagement under which they operated are unclear

If there had been contractors there, you can bet they sure would have kept the Americans safe.  They have a very high success rate precisely because they aren't limited by the same rules of engagement, as you point out.

They would have firebombed a crowd threatening the embassy, had they been there.  Without a doubt.  No way you'd have 3 guys shooting it out in 3 directions, then the ambassador dying of smoke inhalation. 

You would have had 6 'operators' firing RPGs into the crowd and things getting very safe very fast :) 

Now, 33, get on record... Do you have a CT as to Obama purposely keeping security ouft of there - to create a 911 attack - to give him that support in polls which usually follows terror attacks?  DOn't be coy.  Get off the fence.  Did Obama purposely have limited security and ignore warnings because he wanted an 'incident'? 

He's skyrocketed in polls since the attack, which he knew would happen.

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« Reply #173 on: September 16, 2012, 05:21:01 PM »

Bro - really?   My track record on Lybia and Egypt w Obama is 10000% right now.


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If there had been contractors there, you can bet they sure would have kept the Americans safe.  They have a very high success rate precisely because they aren't limited by the same rules of engagement, as you point out.

They would have firebombed a crowd threatening the embassy, had they been there.  Without a doubt.  No way you'd have 3 guys shooting it out in 3 directions, then the ambassador dying of smoke inhalation. 

You would have had 6 'operators' firing RPGs into the crowd and things getting very safe very fast :) 

Now, 33, get on record... Do you have a CT as to Obama purposely keeping security ouft of there - to create a 911 attack - to give him that support in polls which usually follows terror attacks?  DOn't be coy.  Get off the fence.  Did Obama purposely have limited security and ignore warnings because he wanted an 'incident'? 

He's skyrocketed in polls since the attack, which he knew would happen.

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« Reply #174 on: September 16, 2012, 05:23:00 PM »
great article - but it's all "IF", IF", "IF".

33, straight up... Do you believer the US President allowed the embassy to be very very lightly guarded in order to let an attack happen (that he believed was about to happen), to benefit him politically?

Yes or No?