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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #200 on: September 16, 2012, 06:55:07 PM »
Don't know bro.   Blacken has the hallmarks of someone at a shelter. 

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« Reply #201 on: September 16, 2012, 06:56:03 PM »
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« Reply #202 on: September 16, 2012, 06:57:39 PM »

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #203 on: September 17, 2012, 09:07:10 AM »
Mystery surrounds attack on Benghazi’s US consulate
 France24 ^ | 9/17/2012 | Leela JACINTO

Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 11:59:10 AM by 1066AD

Mystery surrounds attack on Benghazi’s US consulate By Leela JACINTO the 17/09/2012 - 15:18

New reports gleaned from Libyan officials and militia commanders suggest that contrary to earlier accounts, last week's deadly attack apparently occurred at two different Benghazi sites in two stages.

Amid contradictory accounts of whether the deadly attack on the US consulate in Benghazi was spontaneous or premeditated, alarming new details have emerged on the September 11 assault, which killed the US ambassador to Libya and three other Americans.

According to senior Libyan officials, as well as militia sources and witnesses on the ground, last week’s seemingly carefully planned assault occurred in two stages at two different sites in the eastern Libyan port city.

In an exhaustive account of the attack, the French daily Le Figaro reported Sunday that only US Ambassador Christopher Stevens perished – from smoke inhalation - inside the US consulate premises. (Click here for the report in French)

At least three other people, including two US Marines, were killed in a house – sometimes called “a farm” by Libyan sources – about a kilometre away from the US consulate premises, according to Le Figaro.

In a timeline of the sequence of events that fateful night - which Le Figaro described as “worthy of a spy novel” – a rebel commander told the French daily that hours after the attack on the US consulate began, he was ordered to go the Benghazi airport to support US Marines who had flown in from the capital of Tripoli.

The order came at around 3am on September 12, according to Imad Shaqabi, a commander of the Dernaa Brigade, one of numerous militias still operating in Libya following the 2011 uprising that ousted Muammar Gaddafi.

According to Shaqabi, they were given no details of their mission. His men assumed they were being called to provide support for the US team to reach a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens’ body.

The body of the US ambassador to Libya was extracted from the consulate around 1am and had been taken to the hospital in a private car minutes later, according to witness reports.

But when the Libyan militia fighters arrived at Benghazi airport, US Marines provided them with GPS coordinates of a second site about a kilometre from the consulate where US diplomatic staff had fled, the newspaper reported.

A secret second site?

Reports of a second site - which some Libyan officials have called a “safe house” - emerged days after the attack, which killed the first US ambassador in more than 30 years.

In an interview with Reuters last week, Libyan Deputy Interior Minister Wanis Al-Sharif said hours after the attack on the consulate started, US commando units arrived from the capital of Tripoli to evacuate the consulate staff from a Benghazi safe house.

"It was supposed to be a secret place and we were surprised the armed groups knew about it,” Sharif told Reuters.

Sharif’s account of a US commando unit arriving from Tripoli, as well as the deaths of two US personnel in a second Benghazi location, matches the sequence of events relayed by the Dernaa Brigade commander to Le Figaro.

If true, the reports suggest that the assault had been planned in advance by a group – or groups - with access to sensitive security information.

Planned or spontaneous?

Details of the September 11 attack have been sketchy, with senior US officials warning reporters against jumping to conclusions while investigations are still underway.

But over the weekend, senior US officials appeared to backtrack from earlier statements that the assault on the US consulate in Benghazi was premeditated.

"People gathered outside the embassy (consulate) and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control," US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told Fox News Sunday.

"But we don't see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, a premeditated attack,” she noted.

Her comments however were in stark contrast to the assessments of senior Libyan officials as well as militia sources in Benghazi.

"The way these perpetrators acted, and moved... leaves us with no doubt that this was pre-planned, determined, predetermined," Mohammed al-Megaryef, president of the Libyan National Congress, told CBS News.

In a phone interview with FRANCE 24 from Benghazi, a fighter with the Shuhada Libya al-Hurra brigade, who declined to be named, said he witnessed the assault on the US consulate and he was sure it was a planned attack.

“They knew the embassy (consulate) very well. They came with heavy weapons and they overtook the place very fast, it was very quick. You can’t do something like that without planning,” he said.

According to the Shuhada Libya al-Hurra brigade fighter, he was unable to get near the consulate premises due to the heavy fighting Tuesday night. Instead his group of fighters were stuck a few blocks away from the by-now burning building, vainly awaiting orders from their commanders.

“It was a mess, there was very heavy fighting. I didn’t understand what was going on. The people attacking the consulate looked like Islamists, they were not at all like the fighters from my katiba (brigade). It was obvious that they had planned this before and they now had a good pretext to attack the embassy (consulate),” he said.

An unclaimed 9/11 attack

The timing of the assault – on the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in the US – has also raised questions among security experts.

In a message posted on jihadist sites before the attack, al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri called on Libyans to target Americans in order to avenge the death of his former deputy, Abu Yahya al-Libi, who was killed on June 4 by a US drone in Pakistan”.

In a statement released over the weekend, the Yemen-based al Qaeda affiliate AQAP (Al Qaeda in the Arabic Peninsula) said al Libi’s killing “increased the enthusiasm and determination of the sons of (Libyan independence hero) Omar al-Mukhtar to take revenge upon those who attack our Prophet".

But the group has not claimed responsibility for the attack.

Libyan officials have arrested around 50 suspects in the attack and have pointed a finger at a Salafist group, Ansar al-Sharia, or “Supporters of Islamic law”.

But following the public outcry against the attack by Benghazi residents, the group’s leaders have tried to distance themselves from the assault, often in what the New York Times called “muddled or contradictory ways”.













So basically Obama lied again. 

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #204 on: September 17, 2012, 12:17:51 PM »
No demonstration before attack on US Consulate, source says
 Fox News ^ | September 17, 2012


Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 1:16:22 PM


An intelligence source on the ground in Libya told Fox News that there was no demonstration outside the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi prior to last week's attack -- challenging the Obama administration's claims that the assault grew out of a "spontaneous" protest against an anti-Islam film.


The intelligence source said no protests were happening before the attackers struck at about 9:35 p.m. local time last Tuesday. The account backs up claims by a purported Libyan security guard who told McClatchy Newspapers late last week that the area was quiet before the attack.



"There wasn't a single ant outside," the unnamed guard, who was being treated in a hospital, said in the interview.



These details appear to conflict with accounts from the Obama administration that the attack spawned from an out-of-control protest. The Libyan president also said Sunday that the strike was planned in advance



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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #205 on: September 17, 2012, 12:49:12 PM »
No demonstration before attack on US Consulate, source says
 Fox News ^ | September 17, 2012


Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 1:16:22 PM


An intelligence source on the ground in Libya told Fox News that there was no demonstration outside the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi prior to last week's attack -- challenging the Obama administration's claims that the assault grew out of a "spontaneous" protest against an anti-Islam film.


The intelligence source said no protests were happening before the attackers struck at about 9:35 p.m. local time last Tuesday. The account backs up claims by a purported Libyan security guard who told McClatchy Newspapers late last week that the area was quiet before the attack.



"There wasn't a single ant outside," the unnamed guard, who was being treated in a hospital, said in the interview.



These details appear to conflict with accounts from the Obama administration that the attack spawned from an out-of-control protest. The Libyan president also said Sunday that the strike was planned in advance



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Your jumping the gun here 333, we need to wait for Obama's statement to be clarified for us
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« Reply #206 on: September 17, 2012, 01:00:35 PM »
Your jumping the gun here 333, we need to wait for Obama's statement to be clarified for us


He too busy watching "Homeland"

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #207 on: September 17, 2012, 01:03:04 PM »

He too busy watching "Homeland"

What I fail to understand is why lie? Maybe you could get away with it 20-30 years ago, but not in this day and age.
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« Reply #208 on: September 17, 2012, 01:07:38 PM »
What I fail to understand is why lie? Maybe you could get away with it 20-30 years ago, but not in this day and age.

See Kazan - here is what you need to grasp - Obama needs the story to be about the video since if its about the video - obama can continue his policies in creating pan-islamist caliphate to take over the ME headed by the MB. 

If the issue is obama's policies, then he can not continue his policies as such.

Remember - obama's goal is to allow Iran to get a nuke and for the MB to take over the ME so that they can shift the balance of power to the ME and weaken the USA. 

Obama wants us paying drastically higher oil prices and this is one of the ways he can accomplish that.   

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« Reply #209 on: September 17, 2012, 06:27:10 PM »
U.S., Libyan officials offer vastly different version of Benghazi consulate attack that killed 4



Glass, debris and overturned furniture are strewn inside a room in the gutted U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, after an attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. | Ibrahim Alaguri/AP
 




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 By Jonathan S. Landay | McClatchy Newspapers




WASHINGTON — U.S. and Libyan officials are giving significantly different accounts of the gunfire and rocket-propelled grenade attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans.

The Obama administration says the assault was a spontaneous local reaction inspired by a demonstration that was taking place at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo against a video made in the United States slurring the Prophet Muhammad, the founder of the Islamic faith. It also contends that the attack grew out of a small protest.

A senior Libyan official says the attack was organized and planned by foreigners – some with links to al Qaida – involved a local Islamic militia, and was timed for the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States. Moreover, the Libyan official appeared to question whether there was a protest beforehand.

“The way these perpetrators acted and moved, and their choosing a specific date for this so-called demonstration, I think that this leaves us with no doubt that this was pre-planned, pre-determined,” Mohammad Magarief, the head of the Libyan National Congress, the recently elected interim government, said Sunday.

The drastically different versions come as the investigation into the assault still is in its preliminary stages. FBI agents who are to assist their Libyan counterparts have yet to arrive in the North African country, and the Libyan Interior Ministry official who was in charge of the investigation was fired Monday.

Both governments would have good reason to promote their version of the incident.

Libya’s factionalized and weak interim government is confronting growing violence by militias and Islamic extremist groups that refused to disarm after overthrowing the late dictator Moammar Gadhafi last year. The interim government would appear less ineffectual and feckless if the attack were a deep-rooted conspiracy by the world’s most feared terrorist network.

President Barack Obama’s claims that he has kept Americans safe from terrorism and dealt debilitating blows to the remnants of al Qaida have been centerpieces of his appeal for re-election in November. Those claims could be questioned by GOP candidate Mitt Romney and other Republicans if al Qaida is found to have planned a well-coordinated attack on such a significant date without being detected by U.S. intelligence.

The attack claimed the lives of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, who was visiting Benghazi from the capital of Tripoli, Sean Smith, an information technology specialist, and two security men, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, both former Navy SEALs.

Scores of attackers firing assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades charged the walled compound from two directions, swarmed inside and attacked the main building, setting it afire, witnesses have told McClatchy. Stevens and Smith apparently died from smoke inhalation. Woods and Doherty were shot dead protecting up to 30 U.S. staffers who had taken refuge in a nearby annex.

The consulate compound’s landlord, Mohammed al Bishari, and a 27-year-old guard, who was wounded and asked to remain anonymous, told McClatchy last week that no protest was taking place when the attack was launched at 9:35 p.m. local time. They described the assault as sudden and well-coordinated.

The assailants were carrying the black flag of a local Islamic extremist group, Ansar al Shariah, Bishari said.

Al Qaida is suspected of playing a role because a video posted on the Internet the evening before featured Ayman al Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden’s successor, calling for revenge for the death of his second in command, Abu Yahya al Libi, a Libyan cleric, who was killed in a June 4 CIA drone strike in Pakistan’s tribal region.

Two senior Republican lawmakers questioned the administration’s version of the attack, with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., saying it “defies common sense.” He called for a congressional investigation.

“It is imperative that Congress conduct an investigation into this matter as the two scenarios are vastly different in terms of scope and depth,” Graham said in a statement on Monday. “A planned and coordinated assault points loudly to a security lapse, and the problems associated with such a scenario are much deeper than a violent riot over a film.”



“It is my belief, as stated by the Libyan president, that this was a coordinated attack by al Qaida or like-minded groups,” said Graham, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said he was told by Pentagon and CIA officials that they were “only moderately confident that it was a spontaneous event because there are huge gaps in what we know.”

“I think it’s just too early to make that conclusion,” he told Fox News on Sunday.

Rogers, a former FBI agent, said that the attack “seemed to be military style, coordinated,” featured “indirect fire coordinated with direct-fire rocket attacks,” and took place on the 11th anniversary of al Qaida’s strikes on the United States. The assailants also “repelled a fairly significant Libyan force that came to rescue” the consulate.

“It just has all the markings of an al Qaida-style event,” he said.



Aaron Zelin, an expert on Islamic extremist groups at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said he agreed that the attack was most likely planned in advance because the assailants launched a second attack on the consulate’s safe house, which U.S. officials have been referring to as the annex.

“Not only was there the attack on the consulate, but they knew where that safe house was,” he said. “They had to have some kind of reconnaissance ahead of time.”



“I think that has more to do with the anniversary of 9/11 than anything else,” he said.

He noted that Ansar al Shariah leaders have denied ordering the attack. But they didn’t condemn it, either, he said, adding that it appeared that group members were present “in their individual capacities.”

At the same time, he said there are “no known operational links” between Ansar al Shariah and any al Qaida-affiliated groups operating in the region.

Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman, said in an email that the administration’s version is “our assessment based on the information available.”

“I can’t speak to the factual basis for statements made by Libyan officials,” he said. He declined to comment on the statements by Rogers and Graham.



Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, laid out the administration’s version on Sunday talk shows.

“Our current best assessment, based on the information we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was spontaneous – not a pre-meditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” she said on ABC News’ “This Week.” “We believe . . . that a small number of people came to the . . . consulate . . . to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons.”

A senior intelligence official who asked not to be further identified because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the subject offered a similar assessment. “Simply put, while everything is still under investigation, the available information suggests the protests in Cairo inspired what the attackers decided to do later that night in Benghazi,” the official said. “Right now, this points to a plan that was hatched opportunistically that day. Of course, if credible new information suggests otherwise, the investigation will pursue those leads.”

In contrast, Magarief, the Libyan official, told CBS News’ “Face the Nation” that the attack was “planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago, and they were planning this criminal act since their arrival.”

The foreigners included people from Algeria and Mali, the North African country whose northern half has been overrun by Islamic militants linked to al Qaida and whose arms are thought to have come from looted Gadhafi storehouses.

In a related development, Wanif al Sharif, the deputy interior minister who was in charge of eastern Libya and headed the investigation, was fired, according to the Libya Herald, because of the attack. Sharif was the only Libyan official to publicly say that there had been a protest before the attack. He didn’t respond to calls Monday seeking comment.



 Even before the assault, many Libyans had complained about deteriorating security in Benghazi, where the uprising against Gadhafi first erupted. Scores of rogue militias have been drafted by the government to provide security in the absence of a regular force, and the role of extremists, including members of Ansar al Shariah, has been controversial.

 The city is divided block by block among the groups, which have kept the weapons they procured during the uprising. Many of the militias occupy bases lined with tanks and machine-gun mounted trucks and are led by self-styled colonels.

Every time there was a bombing or other attack, Sharif blamed remnants of Gadhafi’s regime, despite evidence that groups empowered by the state were behind the violence, said Michel Cousins, the editor of the Libya Herald. The attack on the compound was the last straw for Libya’s first elected government, he said.

Magarief has been a critic of the Interior Ministry before, blaming it last month for involvement in the destruction of mosques and shrines associated with the moderate Sufi strain of Islam. Interior Minister Fawzi Abdel Al handed in his resignation after Magarief’s criticism, but he rescinded it two days later, saying the threat from Islamist militants was too great for him to step down.

 Nancy A. Youssef contributed reporting from Cairo.
 


Email: jlanday@mcclatchydc.com; Twitter: @jonathanlanday

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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #210 on: September 18, 2012, 04:59:58 AM »
Ambassador Stevens Murdered By Terrorists He Helped Bring To Power

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The enthusiastic celebration of Arab Spring by the American left has at last been repudiated by the gruesome realities of Islamic Jihad. But don’t expect to hear much about this sudden intrusion of brutal fact into the left’s pathetic dabblings in American foreign policy. Politically embarrassing events such as the failure to protect American diplomats being murdered and dragged through the streets before cheering throngs rarely make for lasting headlines, especially not when a Democrat president has ignored advance warning of the threat which he more than anyone else was responsible for bringing about.
 
“Once the US successfully overthrew [Muammar] Gaddafi and began focusing on stabilizing Libya, [Ambassador Christopher] Stevens ceased to be a useful idiot and became a useless nuisance.” This assessment by Frontpage Magazine’s Daniel Greenfield goes directly to the heart of the left’s fantastic belief that becoming best buddies with Islamic terrorists renders American dhimmis immune from a murderous payoff when their services are no longer required.
 
“[Christopher Stevens] was an avid student of Islam and the Middle East, and consistently strove to build the proverbial bridge between our two cultures in the face of sometimes overwhelming antagonism and bitter misunderstanding,” said a friend of the Ambassador after his murder by the Muslim terrorists Steven’s had done so much to bring to power in Libya.
 




But Greenfield prefers to describe Stevens as “… a Middle Eastern diplomat who typified the new breed going from the University of Berkeley and the Peace Corps to desks in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Syria.” Years of self-delusion about Islam being a religion which befriends those who actively appease its most radical practitioners caused Stevens to rush back to Libya in April of 2011 when the efforts of the “formerly” Muslim President Obama to oust Muammar Gaddafi had begun to gather steam.
 
However, it seems that Stevens succeeded only in offering his diplomatic services to many of the same jihadists who later dragged his corpse through Benghazi streets, all no doubt to the cheers of those members of al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood to whom Obama himself had so thoroughly apologized for the unforgiveable religious affronts of the Islamophobic American public.
 
Many remember the extraordinarily successful appeasement by Jimmy Carter of yet another beacon of the tender mercies of Islamic refinement as the brilliant Georgia peanut farmer betrayed the Shah of Iran in favor of the merciful Ayatollah Khomeini in the Fall of 1979. Of course the American media refused to blame dhimmi Jimmy for the 444 days Americans spent as kidnap victims of the Iranian government, just as today’s mock journalists continue to claim the contents of an obscure 15 minute video to be responsible for Muslim uprisings across the globe. The fact that assaults on the American Embassy in Egypt had been planned before the video was even known to exist apparently just gets in the way of a good story.
 
Liberal, useful idiots like Stevens will continue to exist in sufficient numbers to betray both American interests and lives throughout the increasingly barbaric nations of the Middle East. But as they continue to advance the farcical notion that “Islamophobic” Americans are somehow responsible for the acts of bestial cruelty practiced for 14 centuries by the sub-human worshippers of a cult of prescribed, “religious” murder, these fools represent an ever increasing danger to the security of the United States and its citizens.

Making foolish gambles with their own lives is one thing. Demanding Americans eventually share their fate by ignoring the evidence of our own eyes is something else. It’s time American’s stop following the march of the radical left to Sharia-mandated extermination.


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Re: Lybian Militias attack U.S. embassy in Benghazi
« Reply #211 on: September 18, 2012, 01:31:01 PM »
NBC News: Obama Administration Not Telling the Truth on Benghazi Security Lapses
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I'm somewhat mystified by the Obama administration and campaign's continued attempts to convince Americans that the deadly raid on our consulate in Benghazi was not premeditated.  They're obviously trying to shield the president from political fallout for the horrifically inadequate security measures at our outpost there, but contradictory evidence is mounting.  Libyan officials and eyewitnesses have described the nature of the attack as clearly pre-planned, and US Senators briefed on the matter have drawn similar conclusions.  The president has fielded precisely zero questions on this matter (one wonders if he's eager to respond to inquiries about how often he does or does not read the intelligence memos about which he's rarely briefed).  He has outsourced the whole Q&A annoyance to various underlings, including UN Ambassador Susan Rice -- who ironically once admitted that her boss was "not ready" for a proverbial 3 am phone call on a pressing international crisis.  Appearing on Sunday's Meet the Press, Rice claimed that two of the four American diplomatic staff murdered in Benghazi were security personnel; evidence, she said, that the diplomatic outpost was not unprotected.  NBC Nightly News now reports that her assertion was untrue: 


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« Reply #212 on: September 18, 2012, 06:23:43 PM »
New information suggests White House knew about pending attack on U.S. consulate in Libya





 
As information on last week’s attack on the U.S. embassy in Libya continues to be released, questions about how much the Obama administration knew and when officials knew it are piling up.
 
On Friday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters the raid that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and two other Americans was “in response not to United States policy, and not to, obviously, the administration, or the American people, but it is in response to a video, a film that we have judged to be be reprehensible and disgusting.”
 
U.S. ambassador to the UN Susan Rice said echoed Carney’s explanation on Sunday, claiming that the attacks in Libya were a “spontaneous” response to a “reprehensible” video about the Prophet Muhammed released by an American filmaker, and were not a reflection of anti-American sentiment abroad.
 
The administration official described the incident as one in which “a mob was ultimately hijacked by a handful of extremists” on CNN’s ”State of the Union.”
 
“People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent. Those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post revolutionary Libya, and that then spun out of control,” she said on “FOX New Sunday.”
 
However, Rice was almost immediately contradicted by interim Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif who said that the attack was in fact premeditated.
 
“The way these perpetrators acted and moved, and their choosing a specific date for this so-called demonstration, I think that this leaves us with no doubt that this was pre-planned, pre-determined,” he said Sunday.
 
Now, news outlets are reporting that the United States did in fact know about the imminent assault three days before it occurred, giving the U.S. an adequate amount of time to secure the consulate ahead of the terrorist threat. Other details of the attacks have also lead those familiar with the situation to believe that the strike was unarguably pre-planned.
 
Furthermore, respected media company McClatchy is reporting that even the reports about the protest itself are false and no protest was occurring outside the consulate ahead of the attack as the U.S. and Libyan governments are claiming.
 
And Wired magazine’s “Danger Room” blog reports that contrary to the State Department’s initial claims, a foreign security company named Blue Mountain had been contracted to help protect the United States Embassy in Libya ahead of U.S. officials’ return to the country in the way of the recent Libyan revolution.
 
White House spokesman Tommy Vietor reportedly told McClatchy in an email that the Obama administration’s version of events is “our assessment based on the information available.”
 
When asked by ABC’s Jake Tapper on“This Week” why more troops were not stationed at the Libyan embassy, Rice said Sunday that, ”Our presence in Tripoli, as in Benghazi is relatively new, as you’ll recall. We have been back post-revolution, only for a matter of months,” noting that for this reason, the amount of security the U.S. thought was needed was in place at the time.
 
But with the attack occurring late Tuesday EST, it’s not clear why the White House wouldn’t have been fully briefed on the timeline of events by  Sunday morning or why the White House and the State Department still maintain that the attack was not pre-planned nearly a week after it occurred.
 
Update: During the White House press briefing Tuesday Carney told reporters that the Obama administration has ”provided information about what we believe was the precipitating cause of the protest and the violence, based on the information that we have had available.”
 
Carney also accused a reporter of “conveniently conflating” the anniversary of the bombing of the World Trade Center and the attack in Libya and said that to his knowledge, the U.S. was not made aware that an attack was in the works in Libya before it occurred, despite what news outlets and the Libyan government are reporting.
 
“Based on information that we — our initial information, and that includes all information — we saw no evidence to back up claims by others that this was a preplanned or premeditated attack; that we saw evidence that it was sparked by the reaction to this video,” Carney said in the briefing.
 
He refused to comment on the Libyan President’s contradictory statement that the attack was pre-planned and doubled down on Ambassador Rice’s previous statements on the incident, saying, “ I would point you to what Ambassador Rice said and others have said about what we know thus far about the video and its influence on the protests that occurred in Cairo, in Benghazi and elsewhere.
 
“And all I can tell you is that steps are taken, both seen and unseen, in advance of and in preparation for times like the anniversary of 9/11 when it is judged that there might be greater threats.  And those steps are based on the threat assessments that we have at the time.  But I would refer you in terms of specific security for specific facilities to the State Department,” he said.
 
By Francesca Chambers /// September 18, 2012

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« Reply #213 on: September 19, 2012, 03:09:01 AM »
OBAMA ADMIN SENT UNARMED BRITISH FIRM TO PROTECT U.S. MISSION IN BENGHAZI "No Bullets" ROE
Breitbart ^ | 091812 | Michael Patrick Leahy
Posted on September 19, 2012 1:05:42 AM EDT by Fred

EDITORS' NOTE: According to a source close to Breitbart News and high up in the intelligence community, the Obama administration's policy following Muammar Gaddafi's death has been to keep a "low profile" during a chaotic time.

For this reason, according to the source, American Marines were not stationed at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli or the American mission in Benghazi, as would typically have been the case. In the spirit of a "low profile," the administration didn't even want an American company in charge of private security. Blue Mountain, the British firm the State Department hired, was willing to abide by the "no bullets" Rules of Engagement (ROE), so were a logical fit for the contract. These sub-standard protections for American diplomats were signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the ROE.

In essence, the Obama Administration tasked an unarmed British firm with security responsibilities that should have been handled by armed American servicemen, and it was all approved by the Secretary of State. Needless to say, the plan failed and an Ambassador was murdered, along with several others.

As of now, the State Department has not disclosed the full State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya.

Here is the full story.

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« Reply #214 on: September 19, 2012, 03:37:23 AM »
OBAMA ADMIN SENT UNARMED BRITISH FIRM TO PROTECT U.S. MISSION IN BENGHAZI "No Bullets" ROE
Breitbart ^ | 091812 | Michael Patrick Leahy
Posted on September 19, 2012 1:05:42 AM EDT by Fred

EDITORS' NOTE: According to a source close to Breitbart News and high up in the intelligence community, the Obama administration's policy following Muammar Gaddafi's death has been to keep a "low profile" during a chaotic time.

For this reason, according to the source, American Marines were not stationed at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli or the American mission in Benghazi, as would typically have been the case. In the spirit of a "low profile," the administration didn't even want an American company in charge of private security. Blue Mountain, the British firm the State Department hired, was willing to abide by the "no bullets" Rules of Engagement (ROE), so were a logical fit for the contract. These sub-standard protections for American diplomats were signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the ROE.

In essence, the Obama Administration tasked an unarmed British firm with security responsibilities that should have been handled by armed American servicemen, and it was all approved by the Secretary of State. Needless to say, the plan failed and an Ambassador was murdered, along with several others.

As of now, the State Department has not disclosed the full State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya.

Here is the full story.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

LOL @ Sources close to Breitbart high in the intel community... probably bullshit,.. but anyway the story looks spot on in my opinion.  The attempt at a low profile agenda has also extended well past Libya. I think 3333 knows what's going on with this but he's happy to use the news for his goals.  forbid there might be a bigger story to tell, lets just go with the angle that gets my man elected.....

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« Reply #215 on: September 19, 2012, 04:19:55 AM »
LOL @ Sources close to Breitbart high in the intel community... probably bullshit,.. but anyway the story looks spot on in my opinion.  The attempt at a low profile agenda has also extended well past Libya. I think 3333 knows what's going on with this but he's happy to use the news for his goals.  forbid there might be a bigger story to tell, lets just go with the angle that gets my man elected.....

No, I'm just smitten with being proven right on this mess from Day 1. 

I took a ton of shit for saying I preferred Gadaffi in power at the time because obama was supporting the jihadis and it looks i was right. 


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« Reply #216 on: September 19, 2012, 04:53:34 AM »
No, I'm just smitten with being proven right on this mess from Day 1.  

I took a ton of shit for saying I preferred Gadaffi in power at the time because obama was supporting the jihadis and it looks i was right.  


I think that's a good call on keeping Gaddafi in power and there are plenty on the right and left that would flip over that but you're right imo--same thing with Saddam.  Kinda starting to look like a pattern of going after dictators that we previously supported.  Wonder why?  

But that's not what I was talking about in my post.  You know there's something else going on concerning your post I replied to above.  Post it!

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« Reply #217 on: September 19, 2012, 04:59:38 AM »
I think that's a good call on keeping Gadaffi in power and there are plenty on the right and left that would flip over that but you're right imo--same thing with Saddam.  Kinda starting to look like a pattern of going after dictators that we previously supported.  Wonder why? 

But that's not what I was talking about in my post.  You know there's something else going on concerning your original post.  Post it!

I believe that Hillary and the commies in the State Department are appeazing the jihadis and not putting a military presence at these embassies so as to not hurt the sensitivities of the muslim sand rats. 

As a result - bad shit happens and people die.

again - its very easy to predict the future w obama. 


Step 1.  Believe the opposite of anything he ever says or proclaims. 

Step 2.  Understand that everything he does is meant to destroy or collapse this country and its institutions, reputation, and traditions.

Step 3.  Look at his probably long term aim in trying to implement a policy with step 2 in mind. 

Step 4.  Try to warn people of said plans by obama and get called a nut job. 

Step 5.  Watch it unfold in front of your eyes

Step 6.  Remind obama drones of Step 4. 

Step 7.  Say 'I told you so" and move on. 

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« Reply #218 on: September 19, 2012, 05:06:53 AM »
I believe that Hillary and the commies in the State Department are appeazing the jihadis and not putting a military presence at these embassies so as to not hurt the sensitivities of the muslim sand rats.  

As a result - bad shit happens and people die.

again - its very easy to predict the future w obama.  


Step 1.  Believe the opposite of anything he ever says or proclaims.  

Step 2.  Understand that everything he does is meant to destroy or collapse this country and its institutions, reputation, and traditions.

Step 3.  Look at his probably long term aim in trying to implement a policy with step 2 in mind.  

Step 4.  Try to warn people of said plans by obama and get called a nut job.  

Step 5.  Watch it unfold in front of your eyes

Step 6.  Remind obama drones of Step 4.  

Step 7.  Say 'I told you so" and move on.  
I'm pretty sure I'm absolutely done talking to you ever again.  If I wanted this level of pure crap, I would tune into hannity and drop kick the fucking radio out of sight.  You know there's something else here and you puke this reply? GFYS YSOS.

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« Reply #219 on: September 19, 2012, 05:10:34 AM »
I'm pretty sure I'm absolutely done talking to you ever again.  If I wanted this level of pure crap, I would tune into hannity and drop kick the fucking radio out of sight.  You know there's something else here and you puke this reply? GFYS YSOS.


LOL - I have said from Day 1 what obama is doing.


He is collapsing the Middle East intentionally in order to create a pan-arab islamist superstate that can balance the power w the EU, USA, Asia, etc. 

He wants Iran to be the head of this superstate and get nukes and the rest of the middle east states will be under the umbrella. 

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« Reply #220 on: September 19, 2012, 05:36:00 AM »

LOL - I have said from Day 1 what obama is doing.


He is collapsing the Middle East intentionally in order to create a pan-arab islamist superstate that can balance the power w the EU, USA, Asia, etc. 

He wants Iran to be the head of this superstate and get nukes and the rest of the middle east states will be under the umbrella. 

I think you should lay down the crack pipe for a while

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« Reply #221 on: September 19, 2012, 07:29:42 AM »
I think that's a good call on keeping Gaddafi in power and there are plenty on the right and left that would flip over that but you're right imo--same thing with Saddam.  Kinda starting to look like a pattern of going after dictators that we previously supported.  Wonder why? 

But that's not what I was talking about in my post.  You know there's something else going on concerning your post I replied to above.  Post it!

A shit ton of people said to leave both of those clowns alone and let them run their own countries... But what's done is done you know.

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« Reply #222 on: September 19, 2012, 07:52:38 AM »
Benghazi Friday Sermon Preacher, "Stab Them in Their Main Artery"
 Middle East Media Research Institute ^ | September 14, 2012 | MEMRI

Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:12:01 AM by CaptainKrunch

Full title:

Benghazi Friday Sermon Preacher, in Wake of Killing of US Ambassador, Calls to "Detonate Our Wrath upon Them" and "Stab Them in Their Main Artery" - the Economy

Following are excerpts from a Friday sermon in Benghazi, Libya, which aired on Libya Al-Hurra TV on September 14, 2012.

Preacher: Oh nation of Islam, I was so overwhelmed with grief that I could not express it. How could I possibly depict the tragedy that had happened? We remained quiet when they butchered the elderly. We remained quiet when they slaughtered the children. We were restrained when they violated the honor of women. All that is left is the mocking of our Prophet. No, a thousand times no.

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Oh nation of Islam, who will come to the aid of the Messenger of Allah? Who will come to the aid of Muhammad, who sacrificed everything he had in order to deliver us this religion?

Oh, how he suffered for our sake! Oh, how often his honorable face was spat upon for our sake! Oh, how many times he was banished from his land for our sake! After all this, how can we not boycott anyone who attacks our beloved Prophet?

Indeed, oh Muslims, the time has come for us to adopt a firm stance, and to detonate our wrath upon them, with deeds they will not be able to ignore. Let us stab them in their main artery, the secret behind their power. Let us stab them in their economy. The Prophet Muhammad said: "Wage Jihad against the polytheists, using your wealth, your hands, and you tongues."

Oh Allah, destroy the rancorous Christians. Oh Allah, destroy the rancorous Christians and the corrupting Jews. Oh Allah, destroy them for they cannot withstand you.

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« Reply #223 on: September 19, 2012, 05:11:05 PM »














Al Qaeda, ex-Gitmo detainee involved in consulate attack, intelligence sources say
 

Published September 19, 2012
 
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Intelligence sources tell Fox News they are convinced the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was directly tied to Al Qaeda -- with a former Guantanamo detainee involved.
 
That revelation comes on the same day a top Obama administration official called last week's deadly assault a "terrorist attack" -- the first time the attack has been described that way by the administration after claims it had been a "spontaneous" act.
 
"Yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy," Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said during a Senate hearing Wednesday.
 
Olsen echoed administration colleagues in saying U.S. officials have no specific intelligence about "significant advanced planning or coordination" for the attack.
 
However, his statement goes beyond White House Press Secretary Jay Carney and Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, saying the Sept. 11 attack on the consulate was spontaneous. He is the first top administration official to call the strike an act of terrorism.
 
Sufyan Ben Qumu is thought to have been involved and even may have led the attack, Fox News' intelligence sources said. Qumu, a Libyan, was released from the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2007 and transferred into Libyan custody on the condition he be kept in jail. His Guantanamo files also show he has ties to the financiers behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
 
Olson, repeating Wednesday that the FBI is handling the Benghazi investigation, also acknowledged the attack could lead back to Al Qaeda and its affiliates.
 
"We are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda's affiliates, in particular Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb," he said at the Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing.
 
Still, Olsen said "the facts that we have now indicate that this was an opportunistic attack on our embassy, the attack began and evolved and escalated over several hours," Olson said.
 
Carney said hours earlier that there still is "no evidence of a preplanned or pre-meditated attack," which occurred on the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks.
 
"I made that clear last week, Ambassador Rice made that clear Sunday," Carney said at the daily White House press briefing.
 
Rice appeared on "Fox News Sunday" and four other morning talk shows to say the attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans was "spontaneous" and sparked by an early protest that day outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt, over an anti-Islamic video.
 
"It was a reaction to a video that had nothing to do with the United States," Rice told Fox News. "The best information and the best assessment we have today is that this was not a pre-planned, pre-meditated attack. What happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo."
 
However, that account clashed with claims by the Libyan president that the attack was in fact premeditated. Other sources, including an intelligence source in Libya who spoke to Fox News, have echoed those claims. The intelligence source even said that, contrary to the suggestion by the Obama administration, there was no major protest in Benghazi before the deadly attack which killed four Americans. A U.S. official did not dispute the claim.
 
In the face of these conflicting accounts, Carney on Tuesday deferred to the ongoing investigation and opened the door to the possibility of other explanations.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19/top-administration-official-says-strike-in-libya-was-terror-attack/#ixzz26xoefsdq





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« Reply #224 on: September 19, 2012, 05:34:13 PM »

Al Qaeda Suspected of Killing U.S. Ambassador


6:05 PM, Sep 19, 2012 • By THOMAS JOSCELYN



The Obama administration has conceded that the attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans in Libya on September 11 was, in fact, an act of terrorism. And intelligence officials suspect that al Qaeda’s affiliate, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), orchestrated the raid.




Matthew Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), said there were “indications” that al Qaeda was responsible during testimony before the Senate Homeland Security Committee today. According to Foreign Policy’s Josh Rogin, Senator Joseph Lieberman asked Olsen about the Benghazi attack. During one of his answers Olsen replied, “I would say yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy.”
 
“We are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to al Qaeda or al Qaeda's affiliates; in particular, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb,” Olsen elaborated.

Olsen could not say whether the attack was pre-planned, or if the terrorists simply took advantage of a supposedly spontaneous protest.

During testimony before the House Intelligence Committee on Friday, CIA director David Petraeus also reportedly pointed the finger at al Qaeda. Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, the ranking Democrat on the House Intel Committee, summarized Petraeus’s briefing during an interview with ABC News.



“At this point it looks as if there was a spontaneous situation that occurred and that as a result of that, the extreme groups that were probably connected to al Qaeda took advantage of that situation and then the attack started,” Ruppersberger said.
 
The role of protesters angered by an anti-Islam film remains in dispute, however.

Thomas Joscelyn is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies