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http://news.yahoo.com/obama-says-egypt-neither-ally-nor-enemy-133302861--abc-news-politics.html

 President Obama says the U.S. would no longer consider the Egyptian government an ally, "but we don't consider them an enemy."
 
In an interview with the Spanish-language network Telemundo, less than 24 hours after violent mobs stormed American diplomatic outposts in Cairo and Benghazi, Libya, Obama said the new Muslim Brotherhood leadership in Egypt was still "trying to find its way."
 
"They were democratically elected. I think we are going to have to see how they respond to this incident, to see how they respond to maintaining the peace treaty with Israel," he said.
 
Egyptian security forces were slow to respond to attacks on the U.S. embassy Tuesday night when crowds infiltrated the compound and tore down the U.S. flag. The incident occurred shortly before an attack on a U.S. consulate in Libya left four Americans dead. Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi did not offer a public response to either incident until 24 hours later.
 
"What we've seen is that in some cases, they've said the right things and taken the right steps. In others, how they've responded to other events may not be aligned with some of our interests, so I think it's still a work in progress," Obama told Telemundo. "But certainly in this situation what we're going to expect is that they are responsive to our insistence that our embassy is protected that our personnel is protected. And if they take actions that indicate they are not taking those responsibilities like all countries do where we have embassies, I think that's going to be a real big problem."
 
The White House said Obama phoned Morsi on Wednesday night to underscore "the importance of Egypt following through on its commitment to cooperate with the United States in securing U.S. diplomatic facilities and personnel" in the wake of violent anti-American protests outside the U.S. embassy in Cairo. Morsi told Obama "that Egypt would honor its obligation to ensure the safety of American personnel," according to a statement released by the administration.
 
In his interview with Telemundo, Obama stopped short of calling for a reconsideration of the more than $1 billion in U.S. aid to Egypt. "The United States doesn't have the option of withdrawing from the world. We're the one indispensable nation. Countries around the world look to us for leadership, even countries where sometimes you experience protest," he said.

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Egyptian President Tells Obama The “Prophet Mohammed Is A Red Line Nobody Can Touch”…

Obama assumed to be nodding in approval.


http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/13/egyptian-president-tells-obama-the-prophet-mohammed-is-a-red-line-nobody-can-touch


 

CAIRO, SEPTEMBER 13 – The Prophet ‘is a red line nobody can touch’,  Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi was quoted as saying by Egypt’s Mena news agency comments on protests across Egypt and Libya and a film on the Prophet slammed as blasphemous. The Prophet ‘is a red line for all Muslims and we refuse any attack’, said the president.
 
”We will sacrifice with our soul and heart” Morsi also said, citing a Muslim profession of faith. The Egyptian president, who had a phone conversation with US President Barack Obama before talks with European leaders and then a trip to Rome this afternoon, stressed his condemnation of ‘all attempts to attack the Profet and the sacred principles of Islam’. .
 
Meanwhile he also assured Egyptian security forces will do everything in their power to protect foreigners in the country.
 
Morsi asked  also his US counterpart Barack Obama to ”take dissuasive measures against those trying to demolish relations with the US”;. Morsi also expressed his condolences for the death of the US ambassador in Libya in statements to Egypt’s state television.
 
Talking about the ”dissuasive measures” requested, Morsi cited Father Terry Jones stressing that ”he is the same person who tried to burn the Koran and is now trying to offend the Prophet”.

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Obama Admits He Lost Egypt as American Ally
 
by John Nolte

13 Sep 2012, 8:30 AM
 



In a stunning admission a media currently obsessed with manufacturing a gaffe for Romney can hardly bring itself to report, President Obama made a tacit admission yesterday that he has lost Egypt as an American ally:
 
President Obama says the U.S. would no longer consider the Egyptian government an ally, “but we don’t consider them an enemy.”
 
In an interview with the Spanish-language network Telemundo, less than 24 hours after violent mobs stormed American diplomatic outposts in Cairo and Benghazi, Libya, Obama said the new Muslim Brotherhood leadership in Egypt was still “trying to find its way.”
 
“They were democratically elected. I think we are going to have to see how they respond to this incident, to see how they respond to maintaining the peace treaty with Israel,” he said.
 
This morning, on MSNBC of all places, NBC’s chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel obviously didn’t get the memo about protecting The One throughout this crisis and hammered Obama over losing one of three allies America has in the Middle East (Saudi Arabia and Israel being the other two):
 
CHUCK TODD: I just want to get your first reaction, before you give me a report, of the President saying Egypt was not an ally or an enemy.

RICAHED ENGEL: Yeah, I almost had to sit down when I heard that.  For the last forty years, the United States has had two main allies in the Middle East — Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the other ally in the Middle East being Israel.  For the President to come out and say, well, he’s not exactly sure if Egypt is an ally any more but it’s not an enemy, that is a significant change in the perspective of Washington toward this country, the biggest country in the Arab world.  It makes one wonder, well, was it worth it?  Was it worth supporting the Arab Spring, supporting the demonstrations here in Tahrir Square, when now in Tahrir Square there are clashes going on behind me right in front of the US embassy?
 
Hot Air's Ed Morrissey fills in the rest:
 
Who lost Egypt? Barack Obama.  His administration waited eight whole days when those demonstrations erupted to demand Mubarak’s ouster, and then insisted on immediate elections — even though the only opposition organized well enough at that point in time for elections was the radical Muslim Brotherhood.  In both Egypt and even more in Libya — where Obama applied military force to dislodge and topple Moammar Qaddafi — the White House left power vacuums that allowed the most radical elements to seize control.  Critics of Obama’s policies in both regards warned of this very outcome eighteen months ago, to no avail.
 
The point Morrissey makes here about the White House pushing for elections when the only possible outcome was the Muslim Brotherhood taking over is a crucial one.

This is leading from behind and refusing to get your hands dirty in the crucial role of filling a power vacuum you helped to create with American influence.

And don’t buy the spin that this wasn't an either/or proposition. We weren't boxed in by events that said we either stand by our ally Mubarak or live with the Muslim Brotherhood after democratically held elections.

We had a third option and that was to get in there, engage, and work our will to create the kind of power structure that wouldn't have allowed what happened on Tuesday to happen. What stops attacks like the one on our embassy is cooperation from the host country's government in the form of intel and muscle.

For all the hell it cost us, we we're able to foster that kind of government In Iraq and Afghanistan. The only question now is whether or not President Lead From Behind is doing the difficult work to retain those relationships.

Announcing the date of our Afghan withdrawal to our enemies surely didn't help.
 
 
 
Follow John Nolte on Twitter @NolteNC
 

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White House clarifies Obama’s statement that Egypt is not an ‘ally’
 
Posted By Josh RoginThursday, September 13, 2012 - 12:30 PM Share

 


President Barack Obama didn't intend to signal any change in the U.S.-Egypt relationship last night when he said Egypt is not an "ally," the White House told The Cable today.
 
In an interview with Telemundo Wednesday night, Obama said that the U.S. relationship with the new Egyptian government was a "work in progress," and emphasized that the United States is counting on the government of Egypt to better protect the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, which was attacked by protesters on Sept. 11.
 
"I don't think that we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy," Obama said. "They're a new government that is trying to find its way. They were democratically elected. I think that we are going to have to see how they respond to this incident."
 
That comment had Egypt watchers scratching their heads, especially since technically, Egypt was designated as a Major Non-NATO Ally in 1989 when Congress first passed the law creating that status, which gives them special privileges in cooperating with the United States, especially in the security and technology areanas.
 
White House spokesman Tommy Vietor told The Cable Thursday that the administration is not signaling a change in that status.
 
"I think folks are reading way too much into this," Vietor said. "‘Ally' is a legal term of art. We don't have a mutual defense treaty with Egypt like we do with our NATO allies. But as the president has said, Egypt is longstanding and close partner of the United States, and we have built on that foundation by supporting Egypt's transition to democracy and working with the new government."
 
Vietor referred to Obama's Wednesday phone call with Mohamed Morsy, during which Obama pressed the Egyptian president to ensure the safety and protection of U.S. personnel and facilities in Egypt. Morsy agreed to do so, according to a White House statement on the phone call.
 
"The President said that he rejects efforts to denigrate Islam, but underscored that there is never any justification for violence against innocents and acts that endanger American personnel and facilities," the statement said. "President Morsi expressed his condolences for the tragic loss of American life in Libya and emphasized that Egypt would honor its obligation to ensure the safety of American personnel."
 
Administration sources told The Cable that Obama's "ally" comment was not pre-arranged or prepared by staff and that the question was not anticipated. Nevertheless, Middle East experts said Obama's word choice and tone is likely a reflection of the administration's feeling that Morsy's reaction to the attacks has not been forceful enough.
 
"I think it's a message from Obama that taking a less than assertive position on this is going to cost the [Egyptian] leadership at least rhetorically in the short term," said Andrew Tabler, senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Studies. "We heard that the Muslim Brotherhood was going to be a cooperative partner and their actions and statements yesterday were not a good example of that."
 
Pre-planned or not, the comments carry weight, Tabler said. He also noted that Obama was surely crafting his message not only for the Egyptians, but also for his American audience as well. The White House has come under fire for a press release from the Cairo embassy issued before the protest started that Republican challenger Mitt Romney slammed as an "apology for our values."
 
As The Cable reported Wednesday, State Department officials in Washington objected to that statement before it was issued -- and the White House later disavowed it -- but it has nevertheless become an issue in the presidential campaign.
 
"It's important to remember, Obama's comment happened in both a security and political context," Tabler said.
 

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Yup you lost an ally, a torture maniac that ruled with the military for 30 years and oppressed muslims for 30 years:



You want to have egypt and the muslim world as an ally? Start by not killing muslims, not slandering and desecrating that which we hold holy and sacred.

Stop funding military dictatorships and imposing puppet regimes.

Stay out of our affairs, muslims dont try to force our beliefs on you. Stop trying to shuv down our throat what you want.

Did I say stop killing Muslims around the world?

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Why would anyone want Muslims as an ally? They couldn't be any more useless.

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USA: 300 million people
Muslims: 1.5 billion and growing.

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Or you have 1 billion chinese or 1 billion Indians (who also happen to be partly Muslim in population). The prior which you have turned against you even though they manufacture your flag and who you owe a great debt to, last i checked 16 trillion dollars. The later, who are only out for their own interests and will sell you out for a few rupees given the opportunity.

You have Africans who you starve to death and you have europeans who are struggling in the same boat as you in debt and screwed from waging war on Muslims.

Then there's south america, who you constantly meddle with and hate you too.

You are left pretty alone in the world just like Israel. Time to rethink who you screw with :-/ Just because you have weapons, does not mean the answer to everything is war.

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White House: No cutting off Egyptian aid
 politico ^ | 9/13/12 | BYRON TAU

Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:12:53 PM by


Despite calls for ending foreign aid to Egypt in the wake of an attack on the U.S. embassy in Cairo, the White House is standing by funding commitments.

Asked on Air Force One Thursday if the United States would withhold aid, White House press secretary Jay Carney said simply: "No."


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well the army is still largely under israeli control.

You see, for a greater israel they were hoping to have libya and egypt on side, syria/iran on other side and iraq.

However this is not going as they planned :)

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well the army is still largely under israeli control.

You see, for a greater israel they were hoping to have libya and egypt on side, syria/iran on other side and iraq.

However this is not going as they planned :)
Your post is hard to understand.  Where the hell have you seen a map of greater israel that was to include Iran and Libya?

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To protect the mighty greater israel, led by the anti-christ/false messia/ad-dajjal of course from each side.

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Avigdor Lieberman:
Architect of Armageddon?




Powerful Israeli racist politician is an avid proponent of nuking Iran, ethnically cleansing Holy Land, expanding Israel's borders through war

By Michael Collins Piper


 .Most Americans have never heard of Avigdor Lieberman, but they need to know precisely who this dangerous and influential demagogue is, because he will be the Israeli official who defines Israel’s war-mongering policy toward Iran.

. . .As a high-level Israeli power broker, Lieberman may well be the one individual who has the very real capacity to spark the next world war. He is the Zionist state’s chief tactician in the ongoing effort by Israel and its American lobby to force mothers and fathers in the United States to dispatch their sons and daughters into a war against Israel’s perceived number one enemy: the Islamic Republic of Iran.
. . .A veteran Israeli hate-monger, known for his angry racist rhetoric aimed at Christian Arabs and their Muslim brothers, Lieberman has been a fixture in Israeli politics for more than 20 years, in spite of — or perhaps because of — his alleged ties to Russian-based Jewish organized crime elements who maintain Israeli citizenship.

. . .The rising popularity and political influence of Lieberman, Israel’s new deputy prime minister, and its firstever cabinet-level “minister for strategic affairs,” is not just a reflection of what some call “Israel’s dark side,” but rather, instead, represents the reality of opinion amongst a large segment of the population in Israel today.

. . .A so-called “hard-liner” and “right winger,” Lieberman has been referred to as “the Israeli Hitler,” and, in fact, his views do reflect a form of “Jewish Fascism,” a striking mirror image of the so-called “Islamic Fascists” about whom we hear so much in the controlled media in America today.

. . .Lieberman is the key contact in Israel that Israel’s well-heeled advocates in the United States are in liaison with in the carefully orchestrated push for the Bush administration, with the support of its ostensible “critics” in Congress, to attack Iran, even using nuclear weapons.

. . .Through his influential positioning, Lieberman is coordinating Israel’s American-based lobbying and propaganda groups — such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, among others — in working to push America into more wars in the Middle East.

. . .Lieberman remains highly regarded among not only his Israeli followers, but among American partisans of Israel, who have no reservations about this no-holds-barred bigot. His harsh rhetoric against Christian Palestinians and their Muslim brothers recalls the venomous outbursts of a former Israeli cabinet minister, Rehavam Ze-evi who once called Christians and Muslims “lice” and said they were like a “cancer” destroying the Jewish state.



. .Arising from the traditional "Greater Israel" school of thought, Lieberman dreams of the day when the Jewish state stretches from “the Nile to the Euphrates.” In other words, Israel’s borders will reach from inside the current borders of Egypt and eastward, to assume command of all of not only Lebanon, Syria and Jordan but also substantial portions of Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

. . .The ongoing U.S. occupation of Iraq, following the U.S. offensive against that secular Arab republic — largely stimulated by pressure from the Israeli lobby in Washington — is perceived today by many in the Arab world (and in the Muslim world generally) to be a partial step toward fulfillment of the dream of Greater Israel. The destruction of Iran, followed by a U.S. occupation, would simply be another additional land grab on behalf of Israel’s geopolitical ambitions.

. . .Observers from all points of view on the political spectrum assert that Lieberman’s alliance with the government of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, leader of the Kadima Party, has strengthened Lieberman and his own Yisrael Beiteinu Party. Although the English translation of the party’s name — “Israel is Our Home” — sounds quaint and cozy, Lieberman’s party calls for what is no less than the “ethnic cleansing” of the Christians and Muslims living in Israel.

. . .Growing numbers of Lieberman’s countrymen hail him for his raucous demands that Christian Arabs and Muslim Arabs living inside Israel or under Israeli control be “transferred.”

. . .In truth, what Lieberman and his followers are advocating is genocide, pure and simple, precisely as defined by the international Genocide Convention. Genocide isn’t just murder, under the terms of the global convention. It also includes the forced transfer of ethnic populations. So while Lieberman and his co-religionists in Israel and around the globe are constantly bewailing genocidal policies against Jewish people, both real and imaginary, Lieberman has emerged as a much-beloved voice for many Israelis who want genocide to be practiced against the Arabs.

. . .Although there are those in both Israel and the United States who put forth the theme that Lieberman is some sort of political aberration — that he represents a loud and fanatic but relatively small body of opinion in Israel — there are informed analysts who don’t buy that theory. Instead, they say, Lieberman is simply saying loudly and without hesitation what many people in Israel and its satellite, America, and its are thinking, protests to the contrary notwithstanding. 


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Why would anyone want Muslims as an ally? They couldn't be any more useless.
Its sounds like the Republicans want them as an ally based on these articles.

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"Greater Israel"–from the Nile to the Euphrates–from the Bible, of course..

"Our task consists of preparing the Israeli army for the new war approaching in order to achieve our ultimate goal, the creation of an Israeli empire." -Moshe Dayan, 1952, Israeli Defense (War) Minister

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Hebrew scholar Levnoch Osman said when defining the aims of Zionism:

"In our eternal Book of Books (the Torah), the lofty ethical teachings of which are cherished by all mankind [give me a break-Z], the land of Israel is described not as a long, narrow strip of land with wavy, crooked borders, but as a state with broad natural borders. God has promised to Patriarch Abraham the following:

"I give unto them the land where they have sown their seed, from the river of Egypt unto the great river of Euphrates’ (Genesis 15:18). And so, in order to realize the words of this prophecy, the Israeli state had to continue, not in the borders it has today but within its broad historical boundaries."

Right. Might start to have an argument if you were "Abraham's seed", if you even believe the origins of that "promise".

Who are these people that claim to be so special?



Future IDF Chief of Staff, Moshe Dayan, as a 'Noter' and wearing a metal emblem of the 'Ghaffir' (early Zionist police force) on his Slavic kolpak hat. Clear Turkish and East European derivation.

Let's look at some true history you'll never get in school today.

The vast majority of people who call themselves Jews today are Ashkenazi Jews.  Unlike the Sephardim, who are Jews descended by blood through Abraham, the Ashkenazim are actually a Turkic people descended from Khazars who had converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages, prior to their westward migrations centuries later into eastern and central Europe and eventually on to Palestine.  This, in a nutshell, is the main theme of Arthur Koestler's book The Thirteenth Tribe.

The Turkic roots of the Ashkenazim undermine their claims of entitlement in the Holy Land according to scriptures in the Holy Bible.  And so the very idea that most modern day "Israelis" are not even of the blood of Abraham is considered a national security threat to the Zionist state because their pretensions of being racial heirs of the Almighty's promises and blessings to Abraham have been annihilated by an extensive historical record.

Looks like we're back to square one, as their answer to this and any challenge on any level is always ultimately the same old accusatory mantra that's been deliberately burned into the human psyche and sends the sheeple running for cover:

"ANTI-SEMITE!"



Another problem–they're not Semites either.

In spite of all this screaming, Zionists are the true anti-semites, murdering their truly Semitic Palestinian population for decades. They even persecute their own minority of true Sephardic Jews of Israel, many of whom are anti-Zionist. Remember, there's a difference between a Jew and a Zionist. Many Zionists are not Jews, and many Jews are not Zionists. They use their "Jewishness" for a cover, to the serious detriment of the very ethnic group they supposedly champion, the sly devils.

So too, the term "anti-semitism" is rendered void of meaning and useless, at least insofar as it is employed by the Turkic Ashkenazim as propaganda.  Ironically, their Palestinian Arab victims are real Semites along with the Sephardic Jews, Arabs in general and a few other groups, all of the blood of Abraham.  At best, the Turkic Khazar-derived Ashkenazim are very long lost cousins of the Semitic folk, and have limited commonality with them in their genes along with the common house-fly and a host of other creatures of the Almighty's vast creation. (source)

Israel Born and Bathed in Blood

Israel's history, both old and new, is bathed in blood. More insidious, Zionist Talmudic teachings and doctrines tell its adherents that they are superior to all others, and that killing the inferior "goyim" is completely justified and nothing to feel any compunction about.

They will do anything, commit any atrocity, and all in the name of Zionism. But no, no. To question them is to commit the most heinous act of treason against humanity.

Talk about reversing the truth. And all this has been engineered by decades of propaganda.

“The goal of modern propaganda is no longer to transform opinion but to arouse an active and mythical belief” -Jacques Ellui

The Plot Towards 'Greater Israel'

The author of the following point wrote about these things in 1968. Since then, to make things worse, warring Israel has amassed billions of dollars of US-supplied state of the art weaponry including a huge nuclear arsenal–all while screaming about its neighbors being the threat. Typical.

By guile, treachery and bloodletting, the Zionists plot to annex all of Jordan, virtually all of Syria, half of Iraq and a large part of Saudi Arabia and all of the rich cotton lands of the Nile Valley. It would be a simpler matter then to grab Yemen, Aden, Muscat, Qatar and Oman with their rich oil development. Israel is already well advanced in the development of its first nuclear warhead. Source



Enter Egypt and Libya

Let's look at this map of "greater Israel". Remember, Libya just west of Egypt is considered the gateway to Egypt throughout history, while Egypt is considered the heart of the Arab world.

Here's Libya's very strategic position. I wonder why the NWO is invading? Gain, or neutralize with "friendly governments", these territories and the rest will follow.



The U.S. is already occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, and Saudi Arabia is an American/Zionist puppet, as is Jordan. Lebanon's been neutered and Syria surrounded.

All while well-armed, American-backed and UN sanctioned Israel is smack in the middle causing all the problems.

Now let's see where the U.S. air and military bases are…



Looks like their imaginary boundaries are moving even farther east…

Over 50 U.S. airbases…insane…and this was in 2008! Remember, the U.S. is Israeli Zionism's puppet so you can pretty much count that Israeli territory in the making in a sense. The US and Israel have become one and the same. Just ask a fundamentalist Zionist Christian who's proud to send American youth to die for this mythical cause.

How bamboozled can you get.

Iran clearly in the way

Let's see how the U.S. was positioned even then to wage war on Iran. The days are counting down.



U.S. military bases circa 2008. Imagine now, plus the US Fleet

Is "Greater Israel" just another smokescreen justification?

Perhaps the Zionists are using this "Greater Israel" concept as an interim step of some sort. It certainly works the same old religious guilt justification synapses that rallies Zionist Jews and brain-washed conservative Christians alike.  Hell, "God told me do it. Expand, dammit!" (Isn't that was mass murderers often say? Just ask the Jesuits–same wicked credo as Mossad.)

Nothing like a "Holy Crusade" to get the blood flowing.

As is the case with all of these manufactured myths and ideologies such as the "chosen people", the idea of a "greater Israel" is in effect nothing new. It's really just another excuse to keep striking out, another Zionist religious smokescreen to justify anything and everything Zionist.

And they'll stop at nothing, including staged terrorist events which they've done for decades, their greatest feat to date being 9/11. But we're not done yet.

(And no, they don't need to inhabit these lands for them to be Israeli, any more than Romans had to populate the lands ruled by Caesar.)



But it does add to the justification to keep arming themselves to the teeth. Much like the U.S. fake "cold war" threat to arm themselves for this world-wide takeover, and now the phony war on terror to justify the NWO militarization and clampdown on their real enemy–the world population.

Epilogue

The U.S. is the main military arm of the NWO, at least for now. They answer to the globalist cabal of which Zionism is an integral part, for occult, satanic reasons. A nasty bloodline runs strong among the Khazarian Ashkenazis, but it is not the only powerful bloodline lineage, such as that of the European so-called royals running through history right on down to today's monarchies, premiers and American presidents.

The march towards global domination by these elites is on. It is accelerating, and we're seeing the outcropping of these powerful forces at work in the Middle East, concurrent to a manipulated global financial meltdown, drastic earth changes, and a worldwide societal awakening happening in parallel.

But don't hand me this BS that these are God's Chosen people. These wicked Zionists don't even believe in a true creator God…they believe in lust, power, hate and greed. Many well intentioned people, Jews and non-Jews, are deceived by this ploy.

But don't you be deceived– these full blown Zionist manipulators advancing this phony cause are Satan's own spawn with nothing but the worst of intentions for humanity.

"By their fruits shall you know them." – Jesus



Case in point: Horrific "anti-personnel" weapons being unleashed on defenseless Palestinians

They will reap what they sow. The law of karma cannot be escaped.

Please do your part to help expose them and the NWO agenda and bring the light of Truth to the world.

-Zen

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Inside the public relations disaster at the Cairo embassy
 
Posted By Josh Rogin


http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/12/inside_the_public_relations_disaster_at_the_cairo_embassy

Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 8:48 PM Share

 


One staffer at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo was responsible for the statement and tweets Tuesday that have become grist for the presidential campaign, and that staffer ignored explicit State Department instructions not to issue the statement, one U.S. official close to the issue told The Cable.
 
Two additional administration officials confirmed the details of this account when contacted late Wednesday by The Cable.
 
The statement, issued as a press release on the U.S. Embassy website, has been attacked by Republican challenger Mitt Romney, lawmakers, and conservatives around the country as an inappropriate "apology" and a failure to stand up for American principles such as freedom of speech.
 
The White House distanced itself from the statement Tuesday, and Romney criticized it directly in his initial reaction to the attacks in Egypt and Libya shortly thereafter, accusing President Barack Obama of evicing sympathy for the attackers.
 
On Wednesday, Romney doubled down on that criticism, saying, "I think it's a terrible course for America to apologize for our values."
 
President Obama commented on the controversy in an interview to be aired Wednesday evening on 60 Minutes.
 
"In an effort to cool the situation down, it didn't come from me, it didn't come from Secretary Clinton. It came from people on the ground who are potentially in danger," Obama said. "And my tendency is to cut folks a little bit of slack when they're in that circumstance, rather than try to question their judgment from the comfort of a campaign office."
 
But Obama's remarks belie the enormous frustration of top officials at the State Department and White House with the actions of the man behind the statement, Cairo senior public affairs officer Larry Schwartz, who wrote the release and oversees the embassy's Twitter feed, according to a detailed account of the Tuesday's events.
 
The official noted that the statement was posted at exactly 12:18 p.m. Cairo time -- 6:18 a.m. Washington time -- well before the protests began. Romney has said, wrongly, that the statement was the administration's first response to the protests, but the official said that the demonstrations did not begin until 4 p.m. Cairo time and protesters breached the wall about 2 hours later.
 
After the breach, as public criticism of the statement grew, the Cairo Embassy Twitter account continued to send out tweets defending it, some of which were later deleted. One deleted tweet, originally posted at 12:30 a.m. Cairo time, said, "This morning's condemnation (issued before protests began) still stands. As does condemnation of unjustified breach of the Embassy."
 
Before issuing the press release, Schwartz cleared it with just one person senior to himself, Deputy Chief of Mission Marc Sievers, who was the charge d'affaires at the embassy on Tuesday because Ambassador Anne Patterson was in Washington at the time, the official said.
 
Schwartz sent the statement to the State Department in Washington before publishing and the State Department directed him not to post it without changes, but Schwartz posted it anyway.
 
"The statement was not cleared with anyone in Washington. It was sent as ‘This is what we are putting out,'" the official said. "We replied and said this was not a good statement and that it needed major revisions. The next email we received from Embassy Cairo was ‘We just put this out.'"
 
A heated discussion ensued among State Department and White House officials over e-mail as the controversy over the statement grew Tuesday evening, even grabbing the attention of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Meanwhile, those same officials were dealing with a more serious attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that resulted in the death of four American officials, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.
 
"People at the highest levels both at the State Department and at the White House were not happy with the way the statement went down. There was a lot of anger both about the process and the content," the official said. "Frankly, people here did not understand it. The statement was just tone deaf. It didn't provide adequate balance. We thought the references to the 9/11 attacks were inappropriate, and we strongly advised against the kind of language that talked about ‘continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.'"
 
Despite being aware of Washington's objections, the embassy continued to defend the statement for several hours, fueling the controversy over it, a decision the official again attributed to Schwartz.
 
"Not only did they push out the statement but they continued to engage on Twitter and retweet it," the official said. "[Schwartz] would have been the one directing folks to engage on Twitter on this."
 
At approximately 10:30 p.m. Washington time, Clinton issued a statement on both the Libya and Egypt attacks that included a reference to religious tolerance as well as an emphasis on the administration's condemnation of the embassy attack.
 
"The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others," she said. "Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."
 
Despite his disregard of Washington's instructions and his actions throughout the day Tuesday, Schwartz has not yet been disciplined in any way and is still the lead public affairs officer at the embassy.
 
"He remains at post at the same capacity as he was," the official said.

The State Department declined to comment and a request sent to the U.S. Embassy in Cairo for comment was not immediately returned.
 

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Here is the deal:

1. Radical Muslims are worthless and stupid and deserve zero respect.

2. Obama and the embassies had the correct statement-Egypt is neither an ally nor an enemy at this point. 

3. Romney severely embarrassed himself with his "press conference" and his comments which are not hinged on any facts.



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Here is the deal:

1. Radical Muslims are worthless and stupid and deserve zero respect.

2. Obama and the embassies had the correct statement-Egypt is neither an ally nor an enemy at this point. 

3. Romney severely embarrassed himself with his "press conference" and his comments which are not hinged on any facts.



romney has to be a getbigger ;D

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Here is the deal:

1. Radical Muslims are worthless and stupid and deserve zero respect.

2. Obama and the embassies had the correct statement-Egypt is neither an ally nor an enemy at this point. 

3. Romney severely embarrassed himself with his "press conference" and his comments which are not hinged on any facts.





LOL!!!!!

So you admit obama has lost a 30 year ally ? 


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STUDENT SUSPENDED FOR WIPING HIS HANDS ON AMERICAN FLAG…BUT HIS FAMILY SAYS IT‘S BECAUSE HE’S BLACK



A 13-year-old Virginia Beach, Va. boy received an in-school suspension after a teacher reported he wiped his hands on an American flag, WKTR-TV reported.

Moses Hinton’s family, however, claims he was unfairly targeted because he’s black.

“A teacher observed a student who recently returned from the restroom using the American flag as a hand towel. The student indicated to the teacher that there were no paper towels in the restroom,” Plaza Middle School spokeswoman Eileen Cox told WAVY-TV.

But the family’s attorney, Wayne Scriven, said that’s not what happened. He told the station he asked the student, “Did you wash your hands when you went to the restroom? He said I did. He said there weren’t any paper towels, so I dried them on my pants before I started walking back.”

His mother, Victoria Hinton, said her son told her what happened next: “Mommy, I was coming up the stairs and I lost my balance and I touched the flag.”

Hinton told WAVY the flag didn’t fall over or sustain any damage. She said her son is the only black student in his 7th grade honors class and believes he was singled out.

“[This has been] very traumatic,” Hinton told WKTR.  “It has had an emotional impact on my son’s education.”

She said she believes officials overreacted: “Why didn’t you just take him aside and first ask him, ‘Hey, is everything okay?’ and then proceed by saying, ‘well, you know, the American Flag is something we respect and we hold very high in our country, so you know, just keep that in mind.’”

School officials are standing by their punishment, saying Hinton “was disciplined in accordance with the Code of Student Conduct.”


Bahaha.. the american flag..

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LOL!!!!!

So you admit obama has lost a 30 year ally ? 


They never were an ally.

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I'm all for that stop ALL foreign aid. Including Israel.

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They never were an ally.


Asked if he considered the current Egyptian government an ally of the United States, President Obama Wednesday balked.
 
“You know, I don’t think that we would consider them an ally but we don’t consider them an enemy,” he said in an interview with Telemundo. “They are a new government trying to find its way, they were democratically elected. I think we are going to have to see how they respond to this incident, to see how they respond to maintaining the peace treaty with Israel.”
 
As The Cable’s Josh Rogin points out, in 1989 Egypt was designated by Congress to be a Major Non-NATO Ally along with Australia, Israel, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and New Zealand.) Today the U.S. State department, somewhat awkwardly, re-affirmed that Egypt is an ally.
 
Asked about the president’s comment, White House National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said: “‘Ally’ is a legal term of art. We don’t have a mutual defense treaty with Egypt like we do with our NATO allies. But as the President has said, Egypt is long-standing and close partner of the United States, and we have built on that foundation by supporting Egypt’s transition to democracy and working with the new government.”
 
Vietor noted that last night President Obama spoke with Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, “to review the strategic partnership between the Unites States and Egypt, while making clear our mutual obligations – including the protection of diplomats and diplomatic facilities.”
 
After that call, Morsi condemned the attacks on the U.S. diplomatic posts in Egypt and Libya at a press conference in Brussels. Quoting the Quran, Morsi said, “whoever kills a soul, it is as if he had slain mankind entirely.”
 
President Obama in his Telemundo interview said that, “So far at least, what we’ve seen is that in some cases, they’ve said the right things and taken the right steps – in others, how they’ve responded to other events may not be aligned with some of our interests so I think it’s still a work in progress. But certainly in this situation what we’re going to expect is that they are responsive to our insistence that our embassy is protected that our personnel is protected – and if they take actions that indicate they are not taking those responsibilities like all countries do where we have embassies, I think that’s going to be a real big problem.”
 
Speaking of work in progress, the U.S. Embassy in Cairo tweeted the Muslim Brotherhood twitter feed, alerting the Egyptians that the U.S. was aware that the expressions the Egyptian political party was making in support of the U.S. and against violence were not being matched by the Muslim Brotherhood’s twitter feed in Arabic, which was focused on decrying the anti-Muslim “film” that many in the Arab world are using to whip up anti-U.S. sentiment.
 
Tweeted @USEmbassyCairo: “have you checked out your own Arabic feeds? I hope you know we read those too.”
 
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