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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2012, 11:13:06 AM »
That's a total and complete admission that the economy is totally in the shitter and fucked long term.

The Fed is going to buy MBS until the job market improves? WTF? It's like saying that I'm going to keep putting gas in my car until my tires inflate.

Jesus. This is the same old shit on a different day.


And it will not work.

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 11:14:38 AM »
That's a total and complete admission that the economy is totally in the shitter and fucked long term.

The Fed is going to buy MBS until the job market improves? WTF? It's like saying that I'm going to keep putting gas in my car until my tires inflate.

Jesus. This is the same old shit on a different day.


And it will not work.

The libs on my facebook are cheering this.   

Not kidding. 


Bill Gross says its a disaster. 


http://www.cnbc.com/id/48909928



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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2012, 01:28:54 AM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/unlimted-qe-2012-9

Im no economic expert but it sounds well fishy.

Howard where are you we need your input on this!!

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2012, 05:41:53 AM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/unlimted-qe-2012-9

Im no economic expert but it sounds well fishy.

Howard where are you we need your input on this!!

It's a bailout for the banks and a way to funnel even more printed money to the stock market. The rich get richer.

Us? Well, we will have to deal with a dollar that buys less and higher gas/food/cost of living.

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2012, 05:45:27 AM »
It's a bailout for the banks and a way to funnel even more printed money to the stock market. The rich get richer.

Us? Well, we will have to deal with a dollar that buys less and higher gas/food/cost of living.

Thanks.

I get the part about the dollar but how is a bailout for the banks?

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2012, 06:46:26 AM »
This is dangerous in another way...if the Fed buys bonds paying low interest with long maturities...say ten years out...and you see a large enough uptick in interest rates a few years down the road, the value of htose bonds will plummet.  If the fed has enough of them on the balance sheet, the fed could be bankrupt in the same fashion that Wall Street firms were when the market for mirtgage backed securities completely froze.

Let us not forget the crippling effect a cheapened dollar has on the purchasing power if people on fixed incomes like the elderly.   Why is the Fed trying to kill grandma and grandpa?

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 10:31:13 AM »
Guest Post: Get Ready For An Epic Fiat Currency Avalanche
 http://www.zerohedge.com ^ | September 14 2012 | Tyler Durden

Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 1:21:03 PM by Para-Ord.45

Quantitative easing has shown itself to be impotent in the improvement of America’s economic situation. Despite four years of free reign in central banking, employment remains dismal in the U.S., the housing market continues its freefall, and, our national debt swirls like a vortex at the heart of the Bermuda Triangle. Despite this abject failure of Keynesian theory, the Federal Reserve is attempting once again to convince you, the happy-go-lucky American citizen, that somehow, this time around, everything will be “different”.

I predicted simultaneous QE programs by the two central banks because it made perfect sense, at least, for those with diabolical intentions. With engineered currency devaluation in full swing in the EU and the U.S., the implosion of both currencies, especially the dollar, will be masked. That is to say, the dollar index is measured in large part by comparison to the relative strength of the Euro. If the Euro falls through overt printing, the dollar will appear stronger than it really is, duping the general public and giving bankers more time to inflate.

I believe QE3 will be the final straw for many foreign holders of U.S. debt and dollars. The world reserve status was already under severe threat after QE1 and QE2. The MSM has virtually ignored China’s bilateral trade agreements building since 2010. In the past two to three years, China has made deals with Russia, India, Japan, South Korea, Iran, and the ASEAN trading bloc (most South-Asian nations), that remove the dollar as the world reserve currency. And, this year, China has arranged a similar bilateral deal with Germany

These countries combined offer at least 30% of global GDP, and could easily annihilate the dollar if they decide to dump the greenback completely as the world reserve. With the advent of QE3, this is now a certainty.

Open ended inflation is exactly what destroyed Wiemar Germany, and more recently Zimbabwe. The central banks and their lackeys will claim there is no comparison. I beg to differ. When a nation expands debt spending instead of cutting it, and then monetizes that debt through fiat printing in order to allow even more debt to accumulate, that nation is not going to survive. That nation will eventually hyperinflate, then default, then collapse, either turning into something entirely alien, or fading from history altogether. This is what we have to look forward to in light of QE3, the final and infinite stimulus adventure. Something has to give, and it has to give soon. My bet is on the dollar…

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2012, 09:30:55 PM »
Thanks.

I get the part about the dollar but how is a bailout for the banks?

Whork, it's a bailout for the banks because the fed is buying "Mortgage Backed Securities".
Banks are the ones that have these mortgages. They can no longer sell these toxic assets abroad. No one wants them, so the Fed is buying them from the banks, using money printed out of thin air, and sticking YOU, the American tax payer with the bill. If the Fed did not do this, the banks would collapse under the weight of these mortgages that are defaulting, and or associated with properties that cannot be sold at their current valuations. The banks are holding paper ( a $450K mortgage) on a property valuated on paper at $500K ...but in reality, if sold on the open market would only fetch maybe $250K if that. The banks have no income, and they aree broker than broke.

When the banks get this new cash, ...they won't be lending it to those on Main Street. They will more than likely be using it to acquire more Tier 1 Assets aka GOLD.

Basel III a recent accord in Switzerland has reclassified Gold as a zero risk weighted asset, and Banks are required to have so much Tier 1 Assets on their books. This re-classification came about at the request of the banks themselves. The US agreed to harmonize their bank policies with the rest of the world, and this is et to go into effect in the USA Jan 2013.

This latest round of QE is all about what the previous two rounds were all about.... bailing out the banks.
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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2012, 09:37:38 PM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/unlimted-qe-2012-9

Im no economic expert but it sounds well fishy.

Howard where are you we need your input on this!!

The last few days have been pretty crazy, but my instincts were correct... 333 announced the news in here.  :D

Whork, hope this helps you make some sense of this. yes, it stinks like the rotten fish it is...
...infact, Bernanke's Fed policies leave a taste in your mouth that's worse than l-arginine.  ;D


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=438958.msg6309816#msg6309816
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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2012, 09:56:01 PM »
(blah blah blah)

Hey there! Your financial knowledge is impressive; why, you're positively silly to be offering it gratis on some Internet forum instead of charging a lot of money for it. You could be like the new Suze Orman. By the way are you still on a gold-buying binge, buying that 999.9% pure stuff by the gram? I've always been amazed by that. Buying 9.99 units of weight of pure gold that somehow only weigh 1 unit of weight! I don't know how you do that. I guess it's the magic of gold baby!

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2012, 10:08:39 PM »
Hey there! Your financial knowledge is impressive; why, you're positively silly to be offering it gratis on some Internet forum instead of charging a lot of money for it. You could be like the new Suze Orman. By the way are you still on a gold-buying binge, buying that 999.9% pure stuff by the gram? I've always been amazed by that. Buying 9.99 units of weight of pure gold that somehow only weigh 1 unit of weight! I don't know how you do that. I guess it's the magic of gold baby!

Nah... not buying gold at all, unless you call buying 1 measly gram a month as buying gold.
The rest, ...I'm getting for free. You should check out our gold fund where we're paid in actual gold in addition to cash.
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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2012, 10:46:38 PM »
Nah... not buying gold at all, unless you call buying 1 measly gram a month as buying gold.
The rest, ...I'm getting for free. You should check out our gold fund where we're paid in actual gold in addition to cash.

So when you buy your measly gram you get 9.99 grams in the mail right? After all you've said the stuff you buy is 999.9% pure...  ;D

As for getting gold for free, if you really are getting it for free, that only proves one thing: that the people giving you the gold don't think it's worth very much. Because nobody gives away something for value for free.

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2012, 12:12:51 PM »
Thanks.

I get the part about the dollar but how is a bailout for the banks?

Hope this video helps to clarify further for you.

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2012, 12:34:04 PM »
So when you buy your measly gram you get 9.99 grams in the mail right? After all you've said the stuff you buy is 999.9% pure...  ;D


No, when I buy my measly 1 gram, I get 1.01 grams that are held in storage and accumulated along with all the other gold I get for free, until such time as I decide to take delivery on them. I could take immediate delivery on each gram if I chose, but I'm not fond of paying delivery charges, so I let it accumulate and then take delivery periodically.

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As for getting gold for free, if you really are getting it for free, that only proves one thing: that the people giving you the gold don't think it's worth very much. Because nobody gives away something for value for free.

Or perhaps it means that the people giving me the gold for free consider me far more valuable to them than the gold they are giving me? ...just a thought for the thinking to  ponder. You need not even attempt to consider it.

This thread is about Bernanke's assault on you and your money, not the solution to that assault. Readers can find further information about that on the business board. Therefore, ...in the interest of NOT derailing this thread, I will cease responding to the trolls.

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2012, 04:42:46 PM »
Im gonna take a stab at BOHICA....

Barack Obama Hates and is Intentionally Collapsing America?

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2012, 05:56:40 PM »
No, when I buy my measly 1 gram, I get 1.01 grams that are held in storage and accumulated along with all the other gold I get for free, until such time as I decide to take delivery on them. I could take immediate delivery on each gram if I chose, but I'm not fond of paying delivery charges, so I let it accumulate and then take delivery periodically.

1.01 grams? How do you figure? Why would anyone give you 0.01 grams of something that is supposedly valuable for free? Or is that some kind of magical gram that holds more than one gram?



Or perhaps it means that the people giving me the gold for free consider me far more valuable to them than the gold they are giving me?

I find that very hard to believe - you seem to know little if anything about gold and the gold market at large; hell, you didn't even know what "millesimal fineness" is until I explained it to you, and kept insisting that there's such a thing as 999.9% purity and that you regularly buy gold of such purity. Frankly, the only "service" you render (and I use the term loosely) seems to be to copy-paste articles and repeating the same nonsense again and again, and that's hardly worth a troy ounce of pig shit.


...just a thought for the thinking to  ponder. You need not even attempt to consider it.

So I must ponder it but not consider it? ???


This thread is about Bernanke's assault on you and your money, not the solution to that assault. Readers can find further information about that on the business board. Therefore, ...in the interest of NOT derailing this thread, I will cease responding to the trolls.

The Fed's moves aren't surpising - they're using the means available to them towards an end. I think their moves are destined to fail, if not immediately, then certainly down the line. But what you call a solution isn't a solution unless the problem is: "how do I dramatically overpay and make poor investment decisions?" Frankly, with the overhead of the scheme you're shilling for, you're better off "investing" in Bitcoins.

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2012, 08:26:02 PM »
I lol'd

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2012, 09:52:21 PM »
there are profits afoot

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2012, 07:07:16 AM »
Excellent. Let's see if there are any plausible alternatives.

Barack Obama Has Incited Caucasian Assault

Bernanke Offers Hope In Credit Arrangement

Banks Offered Historical Inroad to Cock-ramming America

Bubble Of Housing Is Coming Again

Blumpkins Or Handjobs Initiated for Corporate America

On another note, did you not hear the expression BOHICA during your time in the military?
Not that I can remember. 333 usually has his own meanings for everything, I just figured it was another one of his things like "FUBOJB"

BTW, I think we have a winner.

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2012, 07:24:32 AM »
Not that I can remember. 333 usually has his own meanings for everything, I just figured it was another one of his things like "FUBOJB"

BTW, I think we have a winner.


BEND
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AGAIN 

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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2012, 08:32:51 AM »
BEND
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AGAIN 

QFT

...only this time, ...they're not going to use any KY  ;D
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Re: B O H I C A - Bernake announces unlimited QE
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2012, 09:46:24 AM »
QFT

...only this time, ...they're not going to use any KY  ;D

KY? I would have imagined you prefer gold-based lubes for your sexholes.