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« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2012, 09:10:41 AM »

Can't stand religious zealots, they will kill you before they see reason, it's either you believe what they do or your a fucking satan worshipper who doesn't know anything about anything.  No wonder religion is hated.

Ask the resident atheists Smiley They think they are superior in knowledge to all, the super scientificos Smiley

They think no one knows anything about anything if they reject darwinism Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2012, 09:43:23 AM »

Coming from the guy who thinks Nasser was the greatest bodybuilder ever.... Grin



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« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2012, 10:19:50 AM »

a_ahmed single-handedly destroying Griffith, Thick Nick, E-Kul, and Avxo!  His debating skills, knowledge, and logic are second to none.  I enjoy coming on this forum since I noticed his posts, previously I'd spend all of my time on the G&O. 

Lol yes I feel owned even as his last post did exactly what I said... Justified every single thing I said at the start of this thread by blaming it all on others. It's actually perfect. If you have debating skills, you are supposed to counter point you don't make the point for them. So your comments are the best ever. Lol.
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« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2012, 10:42:11 AM »

Ultimately, people are usually whatever religion they were taught to be or what their community believes in.

Their are exceptions, but like most things we believe what we were taught as children and it plays a huge role in how our minds and attitudes develop.

Someone born in North Korea and indoctrinated from a young age to be a die-hard Communist probably will be.
A kid growing up around a bunch of Moslems whose family are also Moslems will usually also be a Moslem oneday.

The same goes for a Buddhist, Christian, Hindu etc.
These religions are also often tied in with a part of their culture and national heritage so are to an extent a part of who they are.

Someone brought up as a Buddhist will believe they are right, the same for a Moslem, Christian etc.

Do people who blindly follow their faith not see how stupid this is...?
It's like a lottery, depending on where you were born will usually decide your religion.
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« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2012, 11:21:01 AM »

Ultimately, people are usually whatever religion they were taught to be or what their community believes in.

Their are exceptions, but like most things we believe what we were taught as children and it plays a huge role in how our minds and attitudes develop.

Someone born in North Korea and indoctrinated from a young age to be a die-hard Communist probably will be.
A kid growing up around a bunch of Moslems whose family are also Moslems will usually also be a Moslem oneday. Mate....  AAAA.....med   is Brain Dead

The same goes for a Buddhist, Christian, Hindu etc.
These religions are also often tied in with a part of their culture and national heritage so are to an extent a part of who they are.

Someone brought up as a Buddhist will believe they are right, the same for a Moslem, Christian etc.

Do people who blindly follow their faith not see how stupid this is...?
It's like a lottery, depending on where you were born will usually decide your religion.
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« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2012, 12:18:16 PM »

Ultimately, people are usually whatever religion they were taught to be or what their community believes in.

Their are exceptions, but like most things we believe what we were taught as children and it plays a huge role in how our minds and attitudes develop.

Someone born in North Korea and indoctrinated from a young age to be a die-hard Communist probably will be.
A kid growing up around a bunch of Moslems whose family are also Moslems will usually also be a Moslem oneday.

The same goes for a Buddhist, Christian, Hindu etc.
These religions are also often tied in with a part of their culture and national heritage so are to an extent a part of who they are.

Someone brought up as a Buddhist will believe they are right, the same for a Moslem, Christian etc.

Do people who blindly follow their faith not see how stupid this is...?
It's like a lottery, depending on where you were born will usually decide your religion.

Sure except I wasn't born into Muslim culture or a muslim family

When it is said to them, “Follow the Commands that Allah has sent down”, they reply, “We will follow only what we found our forefathers practising.”  Well, will they go on following their forefathers even though they did not use common sense and did not find the Right Way!  The mental condition of those who rejected the way of Allah may be likened to that of the cattle whom the shepherd calls but they hear nothing except the sound of shouts and cries. They are deaf, they are dumb, they are blind; therefore they do not understand anything. 2:170-171

Nay!  But they say, “We found our forefathers on a way and we are only walking in their footsteps.” Even so, whenever before you We sent a warner to a habitation, its people of means said, “We have found our forefathers on a way and we are only following in their footsteps.”   Every Prophet asked them, “Will you still go on following the same old way even if I guide you to a more right way than that you found your forefathers following?”   They replied, “We disbelieve the religion with which you have been sent.”  Consequently, We took vengeance on them.  Just consider what was the end of those who denied. 43:22-25
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« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2012, 12:31:35 PM »

Sure except I wasn't born into Muslim culture or a muslim family

When it is said to them, “Follow the Commands that Allah has sent down”, they reply, “We will follow only what we found our forefathers practising.”  Well, will they go on following their forefathers even though they did not use common sense and did not find the Right Way!  The mental condition of those who rejected the way of Allah may be likened to that of the cattle whom the shepherd calls but they hear nothing except the sound of shouts and cries. They are deaf, they are dumb, they are blind; therefore they do not understand anything. 2:170-171

Nay!  But they say, “We found our forefathers on a way and we are only walking in their footsteps.” Even so, whenever before you We sent a warner to a habitation, its people of means said, “We have found our forefathers on a way and we are only following in their footsteps.”   Every Prophet asked them, “Will you still go on following the same old way even if I guide you to a more right way than that you found your forefathers following?”   They replied, “We disbelieve the religion with which you have been sent.”  Consequently, We took vengeance on them.  Just consider what was the end of those who denied. 43:22-25

By resorting to quotes from a religious text you are only showing a lack of scientific logic and reasoning and this is precisely what makes religious people appear primitive and ultimately incapable of rational debate.

Such a mentality retards the development of the human race.

Those texts mean nothing to me?
Why?
Because it was written by some guy in cave for the consumption of desert people and ultimately lead to a war of aggression against the Eastern Roman Empire.

This 'prophet' lead armies and slaughtered people, he caused wars in the same of spreading what started as a cult and eventually forcefully converted their conquered lands.

They then waged a war against the heartland of the Eastern Roman Empire and Europe.

Thankfully, they were repelled or the entire world would still be living in the Dark Ages.
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« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2012, 12:49:46 PM »

By resorting to quotes from a religious text you are only showing a lack of scientific logic and reasoning and this is precisely what makes religious people appear primitive and ultimately incapable of rational debate.

Such a mentality retards the development of the human race.

Those texts mean nothing to me?
Why?
Because it was written by some guy in cave for the consumption of desert people and ultimately lead to a war of aggression against the Eastern Roman Empire.
Sorry but unlike europe and christendom, islam had no problem with progress or science. This is historical fact. The dark ages lasted over a thousand years in europe, while the 'golden age of enlightment' as dubbed by even jews was under muslim rule for over a thousand years.

When the crusades started happening is when humanity retarded

What 'retards' the human race is the constant wars being waged by europeans and now americans.

Europeans who didn't know how to shower? Yeah... in the 1800s the british royals appointed a shower surgeon a muslim LMAO.. to teach the royals how to shower. Cleanliness and hygene is a part of Islam.

The amount of inventions Muslims came up with are COUNTLESS and they do not get the credit for it as europeans claim thta they invented or discovered x amount of things. A little bit of historical reading and you get enlightened to realize the truth.

The message of islam is universal. The message of christinaity was pretty much for whites. It is only a modern phenomena that christians have a 'black jesus' and 'asian jesus' and all that other invention non-sense

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This 'prophet' lead armies and slaughtered people, he caused wars in the same of spreading what started as a cult and eventually forcefully converted their conquered lands.

They then waged a war against the heartland of the Eastern Roman Empire and Europe.
The funny thing is the christians of that time prefered being ruled by Muslims than by their fellow roman christians who were oppressors and hypocrites bent on only personal power

The prophet (pbuh) didn't 'slaughter people' armies fought armies. Unlike the crusades, Muslims would not attack civillians that was on the order of the prophet (pbuh).

The thing is when the 'awesome' europeans came they didn't even spare the christians they slaughtered the christians living in peace with muslims.

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Thankfully, they were repelled or the entire world would still be living in the Dark Ages.
You would still be in the dark ages if it weren't for Muslims.
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« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2012, 04:08:05 AM »

Sorry but unlike europe and christendom, islam had no problem with progress or science. This is historical fact. The dark ages lasted over a thousand years in europe, while the 'golden age of enlightment' as dubbed by even jews was under muslim rule for over a thousand years.

When the crusades started happening is when humanity retarded

What 'retards' the human race is the constant wars being waged by europeans and now americans.

Europeans who didn't know how to shower? Yeah... in the 1800s the british royals appointed a shower surgeon a muslim LMAO.. to teach the royals how to shower. Cleanliness and hygene is a part of Islam.

The amount of inventions Muslims came up with are COUNTLESS and they do not get the credit for it as europeans claim thta they invented or discovered x amount of things. A little bit of historical reading and you get enlightened to realize the truth.

The message of islam is universal. The message of christinaity was pretty much for whites. It is only a modern phenomena that christians have a 'black jesus' and 'asian jesus' and all that other invention non-sense
The funny thing is the christians of that time prefered being ruled by Muslims than by their fellow roman christians who were oppressors and hypocrites bent on only personal power

The prophet (pbuh) didn't 'slaughter people' armies fought armies. Unlike the crusades, Muslims would not attack civillians that was on the order of the prophet (pbuh).

The thing is when the 'awesome' europeans came they didn't even spare the christians they slaughtered the christians living in peace with muslims.
You would still be in the dark ages if it weren't for Muslims.

The reason Europe fell into the Dark Ages was because the Western Roman Empire fell to Barbarians.
As a result it took about a 1000 years to recover back to the standard of civilization the Romans had.
Religious mysticism had replaced scientific reason and logic....much like some religious societies today.

The Pagans were at least able to keep their religion somewhat separate from how they believed the world worked and educated Pagans were smart enough to see them more as stories which were part of tradition.

The reason why the Arabs were in there 'Golden Age' was because of their access to Greek texts and philosophers which they translated....and often got from the Eastern Romans.

Of course, only the Western Roman Empire had fallen to Barbarians.
The Eastern Roman Empire existed till 1453 until the Turks eventually took their capital Constantinople.

The Eastern Romans (Or 'Byzantines', a modern term) carried on many of the traditions of the Romans and saw themselves as still representing the Roman Empire.
They had public baths, ate with a knife and fork and were generally quite literate and looked down on the Latins/Franks of Western Europe as well as the Moslems as both being barbarians.

The invasion of the Arabs brought with it forced conversions and enslavement.
The rule under the Eastern Romans was one of prosperity and relative safety.

The highlighted statement applies to all humans, just look at the 'benevolent' rule of Moslems today....

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« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2012, 06:58:46 AM »

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« Reply #60 on: September 22, 2012, 09:33:49 AM »

That guy is a redneck tool, been watching his videos. He talks out of his ass and has the education of a typical abcbcnbcfoxcnner
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« Reply #61 on: September 22, 2012, 09:51:22 AM »

That guy is a redneck tool, been watching his videos. He talks out of his ass and has the education of a typical abcbcnbcfoxcnner
well he uses words...your sadistic scum use swords to cut heads off
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« Reply #62 on: September 22, 2012, 09:56:14 AM »

Kick Islam out of Europe...Kick them out the US.
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« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2012, 10:34:27 PM »

That guy is a redneck tool, been watching his videos. He talks out of his ass and has the education of a typical abcbcnbcfoxcnner
Translation - He speaks the Truth about Islam and it's practice of Violence and our sick worshipping of a homo/pedo/murderer.  I will add him to my Jihad hit list and in the meantime I will insult him, as only us Muslims are allowed to be intolerant and disrespectful towards others.
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« Reply #64 on: September 22, 2012, 10:57:07 PM »

a_ahmed single-handedly destroying Griffith, Thick Nick, E-Kul, and Avxo!  His debating skills, knowledge, and logic are second to none.

If by "destroy" you mean he continuously posts non-sequiturs, makes blatantly false statements, misrepresents (and misunderstands) scientific theories he denounces and repeats the same nonsense over and over, hoping that repetition will, magically, make them true, then yes he "destroys" us.

Of course, since that's not what "destroy" actually means, your statement serves only one purpose: to indicate just how big an idiot you are since you consider a_ahmed to have a towering intellect.
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« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2012, 01:25:48 AM »

The reason why the Arabs were in there 'Golden Age' was because of their access to Greek texts and philosophers which they translated....and often got from the Eastern Romans.

Of course, only the Western Roman Empire had fallen to Barbarians.
The Eastern Roman Empire existed till 1453 until the Turks eventually took their capital Constantinople.

The Eastern Romans (Or 'Byzantines', a modern term) carried on many of the traditions of the Romans and saw themselves as still representing the Roman Empire.
They had public baths, ate with a knife and fork and were generally quite literate and looked down on the Latins/Franks of Western Europe as well as the Moslems as both being barbarians.

The invasion of the Arabs brought with it forced conversions and enslavement.
The rule under the Eastern Romans was one of prosperity and relative safety.

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« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2012, 05:01:57 AM »

The reason Europe fell into the Dark Ages was because the Western Roman Empire fell to Barbarians.
As a result it took about a 1000 years to recover back to the standard of civilization the Romans had.
Religious mysticism had replaced scientific reason and logic....much like some religious societies today.

The Pagans were at least able to keep their religion somewhat separate from how they believed the world worked and educated Pagans were smart enough to see them more as stories which were part of tradition.

The reason why the Arabs were in there 'Golden Age' was because of their access to Greek texts and philosophers which they translated....and often got from the Eastern Romans.

Of course, only the Western Roman Empire had fallen to Barbarians.
The Eastern Roman Empire existed till 1453 until the Turks eventually took their capital Constantinople.

The Eastern Romans (Or 'Byzantines', a modern term) carried on many of the traditions of the Romans and saw themselves as still representing the Roman Empire.
They had public baths, ate with a knife and fork and were generally quite literate and looked down on the Latins/Franks of Western Europe as well as the Moslems as both being barbarians.

The invasion of the Arabs brought with it forced conversions and enslavement.
The rule under the Eastern Romans was one of prosperity and relative safety.

The highlighted statement applies to all humans, just look at the 'benevolent' rule of Moslems today....



I'll a also add that during the Ottoman Empire's occupation of Greece, priceless treasures were lost - from manuscripts to entire temples and it's amazing that anything survived. Indeed the Ottomans, used the Parthenon to store massive amounts of gunpowder which ultimately exploded. The building suffered massive damage by the explosion and the subsequent and uncontrolled fire which raged afterwards. As a result it was reduced to the state that we see it in today.

Uncivilized fucking barbarians... Bleh.
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« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2012, 08:27:24 AM »

What a moron. Europeans were burning books and libraries muslim and otherwise.

If it weren't for muslims you wouldnt have any greek works preserved. As if Greek works are 'amazing'. Muslims give credit where its due, europeans gave no credit to muslims who preserved these works AND improved upon them and used the scientific method to refute alot of the nonsense of greeks such as that the eyes shoot out rays, when a muslim scientist proved that light goes into the eyes instead. The father of optics and the camera (which is an arabic word mind you).

You're a bunch of clowns Smiley
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« Reply #68 on: September 23, 2012, 11:20:10 AM »

What a moron. Europeans were burning books and libraries muslim and otherwise.

If it weren't for muslims you wouldnt have any greek works preserved. As if Greek works are 'amazing'. Muslims give credit where its due, europeans gave no credit to muslims who preserved these works AND improved upon them and used the scientific method to refute alot of the nonsense of greeks such as that the eyes shoot out rays, when a muslim scientist proved that light goes into the eyes instead. The father of optics and the camera (which is an arabic word mind you).

You're a bunch of clowns Smiley

I don't dispute that some scientific advances came from Muslims. But your blinders are blatantly showing in the statements you make. As for the laughable claims that we have Muslims to thank for the preservation of Greek manuscripts... well, again one only needs to look at the destruction that Muslims perpetrated during the Ottoman Empire.
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« Reply #69 on: September 23, 2012, 12:02:22 PM »

You are the one that's delusinal and blind yet unmoving as a brick wall. I am unmoving as a brick wall because I know what I utter is true, while you are an unmoving as a brick wall because of your arrogance.

The muslims indeed preserved and bettered the greek works. While greeks came to their conclusions and 'sciences' through mere talk and philosophy, the muslims implemented the scientific method and deductive reasoning, experimentation which is ultimately what the west relied upon.

I know having been educated in the western education system that there is NO mention of islam or muslims in history, sciences, etc... I on my own however studied history to find out about all this.

The best mention of 'muslims' in schools has been that of 'moors' in plays like shakespear, nothing concrete just fictional characters.

It's indeed another great injustice against the rich history of Islam and Muslims.

There would be no renessaince without Muslims.
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You are the one that's delusinal and blind yet unmoving as a brick wall. I am unmoving as a brick wall because I know what I utter is true, while you are an unmoving as a brick wall because of your arrogance.

The muslims indeed preserved and bettered the greek works. While greeks came to their conclusions and 'sciences' through mere talk and philosophy, the muslims implemented the scientific method and deductive reasoning, experimentation which is ultimately what the west relied upon.

I know having been educated in the western education system that there is NO mention of islam or muslims in history, sciences, etc... I on my own however studied history to find out about all this.

The best mention of 'muslims' in schools has been that of 'moors' in plays like shakespear, nothing concrete just fictional characters.

It's indeed another great injustice against the rich history of Islam and Muslims.

There would be no renessaince without Muslims.

If the Muslims had not been repelled in Spain and the Turks weren't beaten back then there definitely would have not been a Renaissance or an Age of Enlightenment for Europeans.

Europe and the Middle East would probably still be living in the Middle Ages under Moslem rule and China and the Far East would be the last bastions of human civilization.
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« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2012, 06:15:57 PM »

If Muslims took over there would have been an enlightment of europe as there was wherever muslims went
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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2012, 05:39:53 PM »

You are the one that's delusinal and blind yet unmoving as a brick wall. I am unmoving as a brick wall because I know what I utter is true, while you are an unmoving as a brick wall because of your arrogance.

You don't KNOW it. You BELIEVE it. There is a difference.


The muslims indeed preserved and bettered the greek works. While greeks came to their conclusions and 'sciences' through mere talk and philosophy, the muslims implemented the scientific method and deductive reasoning, experimentation which is ultimately what the west relied upon.

I know having been educated in the western education system that there is NO mention of islam or muslims in history, sciences, etc... I on my own however studied history to find out about all this.

The best mention of 'muslims' in schools has been that of 'moors' in plays like shakespear, nothing concrete just fictional characters.

It's indeed another great injustice against the rich history of Islam and Muslims.

There would be no renessaince without Muslims.

I don't know where (and in what) you were educated, but in Mathematics, a number of prominent Muslim mathematicians are mentioned when studying the history of the field, especially about their work on the unification of rational and irrational numbers, towards migrating mathematics from a geometric to an abstract interpretation and on solving certain types of cubic equations and conics. al-Khwarizmi also introduced the numbering system we use today, another fact that is prominently presented. The word "algorithm" is used in his honor.

As for whether "there would be no renessaince without Muslims", that's an impossible question to answer.
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« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2012, 08:17:34 PM »

There wouldn't be, because you got the knowledge even the number system through muslims.

You had nothing, you didn't even know how to wash yourself. I guess my european ancestors didn't either lol but that's the point. You inherited from Muslims that is all.
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« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2012, 08:23:58 PM »

Let me open first and foremost by saying this: Islam did not come for 'killing people' nor did Islam get revealed for 23 years so that the whole religion is about 'punishments' What you are doing is focusing on about the 0.01% while ignoring everything else. Why is it you never ask about the message of mercy in islam. How to treat your parents. How to treat the elderly. How to help the poor? How to help the orphans? Just a few things to think of. How to have a healthy marriage? How to treat each other husband and wife? How to treat children, raise children?

Islam came to GUIDE people to the true and straight path. A complete way of life, bringing guidance from God in all matters of our lives. To be righteous, to do away with corruption and bring justice and peace to the whole earth. It came to guide people away from ignorance. It came to reaffirm that which was before what all the prophets and messengers of God came to mankind for. To do good, avoid evil, and to recognize and worship our creator, the one and only everlasting God. To not worship false deities, to not follow vain desires, to bring justice and ultimately peace to all mankind. United under God.

It's not okay to kill at any time, as you make it seem ‘randomly’. Except for injustice and in war. The third are hudud punishments/capital punishments and there is due process it does not just happen and then the next second someone gets killed.



29. O you who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves unjustly except it be a trade amongst you, by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another). Surely, Allah is Most Merciful to you.

As far as suicide bombings, this is an invented tactic of tamil tigers who are not Muslim. Where it started from with Muslims was in Palestine. Their psychological and physical condition is unique. In the sense that they've been occupied for generations and oppressed for generations. Powerless, no weapons to defend themselves. As such they resorted in desperation with this tactic. It's really something out of desperation and it has been justified in the same way wwii soldiers would blow themselves up with a grenade when surrounded by nazis to take them out and themselves as they knew they would die already.

Outside of Palestine it has happened with Muslims, however as of late it seems to happen wherever the US invades. Some have including the president karzai of Afghanistan claimed this is the work of private secuirty firms such as blackwater to instigate chaos to further their goal, the cia, etc... afterall the CIA invented car bombs.

There was even two incidents of foreign troops being caught planting bombs on a bridge dressed as arabs. Or one incident in particular where British soldiers dressed as arabs were setting up a car bomb. They were arrested by iraqi police. The British army broke them out and there was a brief mention of it in the news, a contreversey and then it was shoved under the rug.

God tells us to not kill ourselves. This pretty much sums it up. Suicide is not allowed in islam.

Historically there were certain incidents of people who deliberately plotted to cause chaos in society, amongst Muslims and non Muslims. Just like this idiot who made 'innoscence of muslims' basically a gay porn... or Salman Rushdie who not only blasphemed against Islam but Christianity and Judaism and other faiths. Some very vile things. But again, Christians seem to not have a problem if marry is called a whore, or if Jesus is put in urine and blood.

If I recall there was a group of monks at a time when there was a caliph and these monks were spreading lies, rumors and vile things about Islam and Muslims. They were a small independent group. I would have to find the exact case, but in a nutshell, they were told to stop and told to repent several times. They were brought in the court of the caliph and talked to. There was more to the story but I cannot recollect it now. Ultimately most repented and stopped this as it was causing mischief. The few that didn't and persisted were executed. You have to look at it as a larger picture. They were instigating lies, and had evil intentions to cause mischief in the whole of society not only affecting muslims but non muslims as well. People were indeed alot more firm and strict in matters in the past.

Infidels is a christian term. There is no such word in Islam. The word kafir is used for disbelievers and it actually literally means 'those who cover up the truth'

Absolutely not. There is no justification of killing of non-muslims in muslim lands.

A muslim who would harm a Christian for being christian would be punished for this act. As is the case around one of the caliph's times... a governor's son pushed a christian man out of the way and hurt the man, the christian man complained to the caliph and the caliph ordered the muslim boy to be punished. He asked the Christian man to do the exact same to the Muslim man. The muslim did this because he said "i am muslim". Such arrogance. The Christians and Jews are told to complain to muslims for all their problems and calamities. They are under the protection of muslims.

The verses that refer to fighting and killing in the qur'an refer to actual battles. If you read the qur'an you will see that it says quite clearly. No where does it advocate random killing as non muslims seem to think.

The role of islam is to bring justice to all mankind and peace. It's not to randomly kill people.

The ruling for apostasy came about when there was a group of disbelievers who plotted to undermine the moral of Muslims.

They secretly plotted to deliberately claim to join islam then overnight leave, then join, then leave, then join, then leave all one by one. The ruling came to put a stop to this and they of course stopped as they were cowardly people with only the intent of harming Islam.

The other time something of this nature occurred was when after Muhammad (pbuh) left us, a group of people started arising, certain tribes that chose not to pay zakat, and started deliberately leaving portions of islam while still claiming to be muslim. Even certain tribes claiming they each had a 'prophet' and they plotted to take over the muslims and fighting ensued as they were told to desist and repent. To follow islam in its entirety and repent or be fought. It was the leaders that were executed in these battles. After fighting the people returned back to paying zakat and fulfilling their duties as muslims.

Allowing such a group of people to exist they would spread mischief in the ummah and ultimately mischief on the earth. All the effort would have been in vain as to what Muhammad (pbuh) came to reveal to all mankind.
In the west refusing to pay taxes you serve prison time.

Civillians who refuse to pay the jizya lose their rights as citizens under Muslims. The jizya only applies to able non muslims. It does not apply to children, women, or elderly. Even men who are poor they do not have to pay jizya. Basically able men who work only. If you are to live under Muslims you have to pay it. It is a miserly 2%. Compared to 40% that alot of us pay in the west it is a joke. Imagine yourself arrogantly refusing to give over 10$ while you make 500$?

There is one example of Khalid Bin Walid, who was a muslim general. When he had to leave a certain region, he paid back the jizya to the non muslims as he said I will be no longer able to protect you so I give you this back.

Those who arrogantly want to live in muslim lands and start fighting muslims to avoid paying jizya will be fought back and subverted until they do or leave.

On the other hand, muslims also pay zakat, which is charity so we don't see it truly as a tax. In either case all this income from muslims and non muslims is to serve the society. It is not to be consummed by leaders.

In war only. And even in war, if they are captured alive, they are to be treated well and fed, taken care of, etc... and told what islam is, and it is their choice if they embrace islam or not.

The punishment of adultery is the same as in judaism and christianity. It is death. It applies to both parties. Men and women.

Islamophobes seem to think that all these punishments apply to women only. They apply equally to both genders.

Unlike in christianity where divorce is forbidden. Islam allows divorce. If a couple is not fit for each other they can divorce. Problem solved. The children are to be still taken care of by the father while not restricted to be with either mother or father, they are their parents and there is no 'custody battles' they belong to both parents except if one side is literally harming the child.
No.  If you are refering to honor killings. There is no such thing in islam. It is in the bible, not in the qur'an.
One may not kill any other Muslim as killing a muslim will send you to hell. However if a group arises, a sect arises, which claims lies and distorts Islam, while claiming it is islam yes they are to be fought until they desist, repent and return to Islam. There is only one islam. If they call it something else then they are no longer Muslims or following Islam. An example of that are the Druze. They took from each religion something but they are not muslims anymore. Claiming something not from islam as islam is like claiming you have more knowledge than God or more knowledge than the messengers and prophets of God. It is lying against them and perpetrating lies while claiming it is islam. It is misguidance upon the ummah.

This is disgusting to even ask. Women and children are to be protected and safe guarded all the time. As God says men are the protecters of women. The same applies to children. This is the kind of idiocy the media spreads.
Absolutely not. Wherever Muslims overthrew a government. The citizens were not forced to abandon their faith or embrace Islam. They continued to practice their faith.

To become muslim one has to know what islam is and be consciously accepting this in his heart. Anything else is therefore invalid. That is why we have the 'proclamation of faith'. Shahada. There is no god but God. And Muhammad is his messenger.

To be muslim means to be submit yourself to the will of God. You cannot be made to do this under compulsion but only in your heart. Hence the verse there is no compulsion in religion refering to becoming muslim.

Just as in Judaism and Christianity. Homosexuals are to be put to death once they are exposed or publicly advocating without repentance. They are an abomination to God going against their intended creation and a corruption upon society.

God destroyed Sodom and Gomorah for this.



Also lastly, in any of these cases where there is a capital punishment of death, the people are given a choice to repent and desist from their practices. If they however even advocate it in arrogance, they are to be put to death.



That which is from God remains the same. It is people who change it. Islam is the same as it was revealed. It is people who chose not to follow it but cannot change it. Christians don't know what to follow or not to follow they just follow their desires. Yesterday homosexuality was wrong, today its okay. Today beastiality is wrong, tomorrow Huh That's what happens when people follow man made laws and their own desires. Whichever the way the wind blows it goes.

Priests not being allowed to marry is not God's law. It is man made law, and look at the result. Children boys and girls are raped by priests.
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