Ambassador Susan Rice: Libya Attack Not Premeditated

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Source: ABC News

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi was not premeditated, directly contradicting top Libyan officials who say the attack was planned in advance.

“Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” Rice told me this morning on “This Week.”

“In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated,” Rice said, referring to protests in Egypt Tuesday over a film that depicts the Prophet Muhammad as a fraud. Protesters in Cairo breached the walls of the U.S. American Embassy, tearing apart an American flag.

“We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to – or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo,” Rice said. “And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons… And it then evolved from there.”

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/ambassador-susan-rice-libya-attack-not-premeditated/

[Kazan]

Wag the dog baby, wag the dog

[blacken700]

well if i have to believe one i guess i will believe a U.S. ambassador then top libyan officials 

[OzmO]

Animals none the less.

[George Whorewell]

Really? Is that right?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2012/09/libyan-president-no-doubt-consulate-attack-preplanned-135664.html

Libyan president: 'No doubt' attack 'preplanned'
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Comments (198) By KEVIN CIRILLI | 9/16/12 9:16 AM EDT
Libya President Mohamed Yousef El-Magariaf said Sunday that 50 arrests have been made in connection with last week's "preplanned" attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that left U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead.

"The way these perpetrators acted and moved -- I think we, and they're choosing the specific date for this so-called demonstration, I think we have no, this leaves us with no doubt that this was pre-planned, determined," Magariaf said on CBS's "Face the Nation."

"And you believe that this was the work of Al Qaeda, and you believe that it was led by foreigners. Is that what you’re telling us?" CBS host Bob Schieffer asked.

"It was planned, definitely. It was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago. And they were planning this criminal act since their arrival," Magariaf said.

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Magariaf said that more than 50 arrests have been made with some suspects from Mali and Algeria.

"They entered Libya from different directions. Some of them definitely from Mali and Algeria," Magariaf said.

When Schieffer asked if it would be safe for FBI investigators to enter Libya, Magariaf said he believes the FBI should stay out "for a little while."

"Maybe it is better for them to stay for a little while, for a little while. But until we, we do what we have to do ourselves," Magariaf said. "Any hasty action I think is not welcome."

(PHOTOS: Anti-U.S. protests in Middle East, North Africa)

He called the attacks "ugly" and "criminal" deeds that do not reflect the Libyan people's view toward America.

"These ugly deeds, criminal deeds were directed against the late Ambassador Chris Stevens and his colleagues do not resemble any way, in any sense, the aspirations, the feelings of Libyans towards the United States and its citizens," Magariaf said

[Soul Crusher]

Jesus Christ are these assholes lying blatantly.   

Only an idiot believes obama 

[blacken700]

Jesus Christ are these assholes lying blatantly.   

Only an idiot believes obama 

false statement reported, your an idiot and you don't believe obama

[Soul Crusher]

Funny how obama and his sheep blame a youtube video for this yet these aps are burning american flags and isralie flags and not the movie itself. 

[240 is Back]

400 armed militants attack US soil on the anniversary of 911, and it's not premeditated?  WTF?

Unless they have militant attacks in their own versions of 'flash mobbing', this was clearly pre-meditated.

[Soul Crusher]

400 armed militants attack US soil on the anniversary of 911, and it's not premeditated?  WTF?

Unless they have militant attacks in their own versions of 'flash mobbing', this was clearly pre-meditated.

Obama is pushing this lie since he needs to blame the video as opposed to his policies since if his policies are to blame he can't credibly keep on his path of pushing the mb into power creating a pan-arab me caliphate headed by iran   

If the video is to blame, obama in his demented mind can keep on his path of putting the mb into power 

[240 is Back]

obama looks like complete garbage on this attack response, completely.   But, Romney did jump to a conclusion that he regretted, then Romney flipflopped and condemned the movie - completely destorying his stron, bold initial response of "no apologies for the 1st amendment".  

therefore, romney hasn't been able to capitalize upon the weakness of Obama's response.  He should be carpet bombing terrorist camps, period.

And senators can't exactly complain - they voted 98-0 for this no fly zone to give obama the power in the first place, and most of them love war.  This was an example of "anniv of 911 and you dont think to protect our diplomats after warning?" - clearly the white house ignoring vital intel.  And just like in many cases before, you have to wonder WHY they would ignore such crucial intel.  Obama has jumped 10 points in the last week on Intrade... Romney spends his TV time explaining how much he loves snooki and why he sleeps naked... he's just pandering at this point.

If obama wins this election, then Rove/jeb/whoever/the grownups of the GOP have to take over again.  Period.  This crap has gone on long enough.  This 2012 election is COMPLETLY winnable for repubs... Obama is Carter - PERIOD.  If Obama wins (and it looks like he probably will, and it wont be close), then yes, we've given the tea party their chance to run the country, you did win in 2010 but achieved nothing but roadblocks and couldn't beat Carter II.  You had your chance.  

(Jeb would be leading Obama by 8 points in every poll today.  We know this.  Something about CONFIDENCE you have in a Jeb or someone else with 20 years of fcking running things on a national level... Love or hate him, Jeb has backbone and conviction - Romney does not.)

[Soul Crusher]

240 - i am disgusted all around   

McLame is full of shit 

obama is full of shit 

Romney is a pussy and barely credible   

The only ones firing on all cyloinders are col. west, col. peters, Andy McCarthy, etc 

Never in an election cycle have i been so disgusted 

obama looks like complete garbage on this attack response, completely.   But, Romney did jump to a conclusion that he regretted, then Romney flipflopped and condemned the movie - completely destorying his stron, bold initial response of "no apologies for the 1st amendment".  

therefore, romney hasn't been able to capitalize upon the weakness of Obama's response.  He should be carpet bombing terrorist camps, period.

And senators can't exactly complain - they voted 98-0 for this no fly zone to give obama the power in the first place, and most of them love war.  This was an example of "anniv of 911 and you dont think to protect our diplomats after warning?" - clearly the white house ignoring vital intel.  And just like in many cases before, you have to wonder WHY they would ignore such crucial intel.  Obama has jumped 10 points in the last week on Intrade... Romney spends his TV time explaining how much he loves snooki and why he sleeps naked... he's just pandering at this point.

If obama wins this election, then Rove/jeb/whoever/the grownups of the GOP have to take over again.  Period.  This crap has gone on long enough.  This 2012 election is COMPLETLY winnable for repubs... Obama is Carter - PERIOD.  If Obama wins (and it looks like he probably will, and it wont be close), then yes, we've given the tea party their chance to run the country, you did win in 2010 but achieved nothing but roadblocks and couldn't beat Carter II.  You had your chance.  

(Jeb would be leading Obama by 8 points in every poll today.  We know this.  Something about CONFIDENCE you have in a Jeb or someone else with 20 years of fcking running things on a national level... Love or hate him, Jeb has backbone and conviction - Romney does not.)

[240 is Back]

I would like to see Romney win - bot because I think he's an amazing consistent repub with a vision for America... but mainly because I believe American businesses will grab that "we built this" attitude and start with some new investment.  I HIGHLY doubt that Ryan plan gets anywhere.  But the confidence is what will do it.

That being said, Romney has had a miserable week dude.   His SMIRKING after making that Libya statement... WTF?  What was he thinking?  That's a hugely somber moment... He was smiling as he walked away, the camera got it.  And he's making small talk about Snooki?  Sorry, his response should be "Look, we can talk sitcoms and reality TV down the road... Today, Americans need to be concerned with the outbreak of violence in middle east, and what President Romney woudl do to stop it".

He sleeps naked.  He likes snookie.  Wow.  He should scold that interviewer for even asking that question.  NOBODY should be smiling on the campaign trail right now.

[Soul Crusher]

I would like to see Romney win - bot because I think he's an amazing consistent repub with a vision for America... but mainly because I believe American businesses will grab that "we built this" attitude and start with some new investment.  I HIGHLY doubt that Ryan plan gets anywhere.  But the confidence is what will do it.

That being said, Romney has had a miserable week dude.   His SMIRKING after making that Libya statement... WTF?  What was he thinking?  That's a hugely somber moment... He was smiling as he walked away, the camera got it.  And he's making small talk about Snooki?  Sorry, his response should be "Look, we can talk sitcoms and reality TV down the road... Today, Americans need to be concerned with the outbreak of violence in middle east, and what President Romney woudl do to stop it".

He sleeps naked.  He likes snookie.  Wow.  He should scold that interviewer for even asking that question.  NOBODY should be smiling on the campaign trail right now.

This is the worst election cycle of my life.   I was jazzed in 2008 due to palin.   This year?   Fuck!   Romney campaign asking me to eat my airfare and hotel to ohio.    I told hem fuck off.   I am no paying for that,, 

Bush in 2000 and 2004 paid my hotel and airfare and costs for everything.  I'll vote for romney wo hesitation but this election i am disgusted 

[240 is Back]

This is the worst election cycle of my life.   I was jazzed in 2008 due to palin.   This year?   Fuck!   Romney campaign asking me to eat my airfare and hotel to ohio.    I told hem fuck off.   I am no paying for that,, 

Bush in 2000 and 2004 paid my hotel and airfare and costs for everything.  I'll vote for romney wo hesitation but this election i am disgusted 

it is a growing pain - but MAYBE the one the republican party needed.  The wakeup call.   Let's review the current GOP mindsets.

TOP of the party - Big govt.  Big tax cuts for wealthy.  Big military spending increase.  Big war in Iran.
or is it tea party?
Near Zero legislation in 2 years.  slash defense spending.  slash all spending.  smaller govt.

It's like two totally different parties.  And repubs chose the one candidate that was about big govt, big spending.  Why?  Cause the system is set up so that whoever has the most $ can buy the most airtime.  SuperPacs didn't help. 

The party doesn't konw its identity.   That's a big problem.  How in the world can they get behind a guy who signed gun bans, signed socialized medicine, spent like a drunken sailor.   OH, the hate for obama.  Well, it looks like hate alone won't win that election. 

[blacken700]

This is the worst election cycle of my life.   I was jazzed in 2008 due to palin.   This year?   Fuck!   Romney campaign asking me to eat my airfare and hotel to ohio.    I told hem fuck off.   I am no paying for that,, 

Bush in 2000 and 2004 paid my hotel and airfare and costs for everything.  I'll vote for romney wo hesitation but this election i am disgusted 

hahahahahaah you are an idiot

[tonymctones]

it is a growing pain - but MAYBE the one the republican party needed.  The wakeup call.   Let's review the current GOP mindsets.

TOP of the party - Big govt.  Big tax cuts for wealthy.  Big military spending increase.  Big war in Iran.
or is it tea party?
Near Zero legislation in 2 years.  slash defense spending.  slash all spending.  smaller govt.

It's like two totally different parties.  And repubs chose the one candidate that was about big govt, big spending.  Why?  Cause the system is set up so that whoever has the most $ can buy the most airtime.  SuperPacs didn't help. 

The party doesn't konw its identity.   That's a big problem.  How in the world can they get behind a guy who signed gun bans, signed socialized medicine, spent like a drunken sailor.   OH, the hate for obama.  Well, it looks like hate alone won't win that election. 

Nah its a transition period from older more old school republicans to younger conservatives who have different priororities. I suspect that within the next few years we see a sharp shift in the poltical ideology of the right.

[Soul Crusher]

hahahahahaah you are an idiot

Yeah - I. The idiot.   Look at the news asshole.

[tonymctones]

hahahahahaah you are an idiot

go find that quote bottom bitch...

[blacken700]

go find that quote bottom bitch...

your the moron that thinks it's a quote so go find it bitch 

[240 is Back]

Nah its a transition period from older more old school republicans to younger conservatives who have different priororities. I suspect that within the next few years we see a sharp shift in the poltical ideology of the right.

I don't think "the system" cares.   nor would they allow it.

The guy to win in 2016 will be a big business republican, keeping all the neocon shit in place.  I'm sure of it.  Even if 75% of the party wants a further right guy or gal.  

Look at the system  -  they are changing it to make the 'winner take all' states early and other thing to make the next mitt just as easy, and to ensure there's never another ron paul movement.  

You'll have Jeb next time, probably.  And he's quite moderate.  No way the party lets a smaller govt guy win the nominatino - it works directly against their goals.  The party loves big spending, big govt.  

[Soul Crusher]

your the moron that thinks it's a quote so go find it bitch 

Hey you ghetto rat thy burned the flag not the movie asshoe.

[blacken700]

Hey you ghetto rat thy burned the flag not the movie asshoe.

what the hell you Rambling on about

[tonymctones]

your the moron that thinks it's a quote so go find it bitch 

so you agree you were just making shit up?

I think you should put that on your resume to PMSNBC, they would be proud

[tonymctones]

I don't think "the system" cares.   nor would they allow it.

The guy to win in 2016 will be a big business republican, keeping all the neocon shit in place.  I'm sure of it.  Even if 75% of the party wants a further right guy or gal. 

Look at the system  -  they are changing it to make the 'winner take all' states early and other thing to make the next mitt just as easy, and to ensure there's never another ron paul movement. 

You'll have Jeb next time, probably.  And he's quite moderate.  No way the party lets a smaller govt guy win the nominatino - it works directly against their goals.  The party loves big spending, big govt. 

nah I think most ppl can see the shift in ideology from the older voters to the younger ones. Sooner or later that will be reflected in politicians we elect, Im not saying it will be a huge change only a change.