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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #175 on: September 26, 2012, 06:52:37 AM »
Quote from: Howard link=topic=441530.msg6328111#msg6328111
Do your genetics sucks THAT bad that it makes you think anything over 170lbs lean is "all drugs".
I'm not that good a bodybuilder and you folks act like I had some freakish mass that REQUIRED drugs?
Once again, it really does amaze me that some of you think I just had to use drugs to look like  I did > really?
Oh well, thanks I guess and it really isn't that big a deal to build the size I did.

The best juiced up pros are all 40, 50 or more lbs bigger and alot more impressive then I ever was.

LOL. Clasic Meltdown. Don't worry about what others think, Howard. You can't teach old dogs new tricks. Why bother?

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #176 on: September 26, 2012, 07:00:42 AM »
Has bank take his house because he tried to buy a $400k house he obviously could not, loses girlfriend, lives on top of a buddy's garage, no internet/tv...

christ

Isn't his brother Tito Raymond?

He can't help him out? ???

Didn't Tito marry Amy Fadhli? Or is that over?

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #177 on: September 26, 2012, 07:29:19 AM »
LOL. Clasic Meltdown. Don't worry about what others think, Howard. You can't teach old dogs new tricks. Why bother?
LOL, I was just making a getbig rant, no more, no less.

I would urge anyone to do their own personal experiment with a moderate cycle of drugs and see what they can and can't do. I would also advise them to see what is possible by eating and training without drugs.
The top pros all run extreme amounts combined with rare genetics that have a freakish response to:
training, diet, and yes drugs. Most of us ( me included) won't get the same response from lifting eating and steroids that the elite pros do.
In all modesty my genetics for bodybuilding may be above avg. BUT, my response to moderate drug use wasn't that good. I suspect some rare guys would blow up more on the small, single drug cycles I used back in the mid '80's.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #178 on: September 26, 2012, 09:11:20 AM »
LOL, I was just making a getbig rant, no more, no less.

I would urge anyone to do their own personal experiment with a moderate cycle of drugs and see what they can and can't do. I would also advise them to see what is possible by eating and training without drugs.
The top pros all run extreme amounts combined with rare genetics that have a freakish response to:
training, diet, and yes drugs. Most of us ( me included) won't get the same response from lifting eating and steroids that the elite pros do.
In all modesty my genetics for bodybuilding may be above avg. BUT, my response to moderate drug use wasn't that good. I suspect some rare guys would blow up more on the small, single drug cycles I used back in the mid '80's.

Ive tried mega dosages of shit (around 2grms total), but I was puffy and uncomfortable. You CAN make decent gains on moderate shit. For me, thats 500mgs of test and 400 mgs of tren. I could do more but I HATE taking shots. But guys think more is better. But if your genes suck, it doesnt matter how much you take

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #179 on: September 26, 2012, 09:53:52 AM »
LOL, I weighed 175 lbs at 5'9" when I was 17 running track in high school.  ::)
Just how "special ed " are some of you guys when it comes to building muscle mass? seriously.

I hate to go negative but I just gotta get this off my chest.
Do you really belive it is impossible to compete at 195 lbs in contest shape without drugs? Really.
Do your genetics sucks THAT bad that it makes you think anything over 170lbs lean is "all drugs".
I'm not that good a bodybuilder and you folks act like I had some freakish mass that REQUIRED drugs?
Once again, it really does amaze me that some of you think I just had to use drugs to look like  I did > really?
Oh well, thanks I guess and it really isn't that big a deal to build the size I did.

The best juiced up pros are all 40, 50 or more lbs bigger and alot more impressive then I ever was.

Weight has nothing to do with it. Frank Zane was all geared up at 185.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #180 on: September 26, 2012, 10:14:46 AM »
keep frank out of this

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #182 on: September 26, 2012, 05:31:24 PM »
Umpa Loompa on the wonka juice, no ?
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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #183 on: September 27, 2012, 04:54:12 AM »
Umpa Loompa on the wonka juice, no ?

LOL, the first time I saw Lee Preist in person at the 1994 Arnold, that is exactly what I thought.
He had that really bright blonde hair and the "pro tan/bronzer" gave his skin this orange tinge under normal light.
Lee had on this baggy sweat suit and at his ht with all that mass, and orange skin , he looked like a juiced up
Oompa- Loompa.
No offense to Lee Priest , but it was a funny thought/visual image.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #184 on: August 12, 2013, 01:05:41 PM »

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #185 on: August 12, 2013, 03:02:48 PM »
   yeeesh

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #186 on: August 12, 2013, 03:04:32 PM »
Weight has nothing to do with it. Frank Zane was all geared up at 185.

great point

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #187 on: August 12, 2013, 03:07:59 PM »
100% drug free Jr USA contestant vs. steroid-using 3 time Mr Olympia. Impressive indeed...



the guy in the pic claims he was not using steroids?

lying piece of shit

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #188 on: August 12, 2013, 03:44:19 PM »
Isn't his brother Tito Raymond?

He can't help him out? ???

Didn't Tito marry Amy Fadhli? Or is that over?


I would imagine that Tito has already helped him out as much as he is going to.


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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #189 on: August 12, 2013, 03:49:46 PM »
What did Perdikakis do to Raymond anyways?

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #190 on: August 12, 2013, 03:52:23 PM »
cops are well paid

but their "work" doesnt contribute to the economy or even safety

Without Cops, how safe do you think society would be?

Think Anabeaux, think