Thompson Suggests Romney Is Dragging Him Down

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Source: TPM

Tommy Thompson said Wednesday that Mitt Romney is dragging him down in his Senate race against Rep. Tammy Baldwin.

"The presidential thing is bound to have an impact on every election," Thompson told the local ABC affiliate in Madison. "Whether you're a Democrat or Republican. If your standard-bearer for the presidency is not doing well, it's gonna reflect on the down-ballot."

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Where does Thompson get the belief Romney isn't doing well?  He was leading in some polls today. 

[Hawk]

I'm sure he IS being dragged down. Romney STINKS and is going to lose.

[MCWAY]

Where does Thompson get the belief Romney isn't doing well?  He was leading in some polls today. 

Could it be from the media goons, constantly harping this tripe that it's all over and Obama's locked up the race?

[Hawk]

Could it be from the media goons, constantly harping this tripe that it's all over and Obama's locked up the race?

You feel good about Romney and his chances, MCWAY?
Your HONEST thoughts, not what your GOP buddies on this board want to read. You think Romney's going to win over independants and voters in OH that kept their jobs thanks to the auto bailout?

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Could it be from the media goons, constantly harping this tripe that it's all over and Obama's locked up the race?

agreed.  Obama doesn't have it won yet.   But the path to victory for Romney is getting narrower.

Intrade jumped to 69.5% chance Obama wins.  They're not the weak, partisan pollster crap that we have in America.  They're global wagering.  They bet millions on it, and they aren't swayed by FOX or MSN or anyone else.  And they were more right than anyone else in 2008. 

So Romney still has many opportunities for a 'game changer' move that would sway things his way.  But the time is NOW.   he can't wait any longer.  Mccain was pretty much going to lose - and most people knew it - by Mid-October last time.

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agreed.  Obama doesn't have it won yet.   But the path to victory for Romney is getting narrower.

Intrade jumped to 69.5% chance Obama wins.  They're not the weak, partisan pollster crap that we have in America.  They're global wagering.  They bet millions on it, and they aren't swayed by FOX or MSN or anyone else.  And they were more right than anyone else in 2008. 

So Romney still has many opportunities for a 'game changer' move that would sway things his way.  But the time is NOW.   he can't wait any longer.  Mccain was pretty much going to lose - and most people knew it - by Mid-October last time.

Intrade had odds of the Supreme Court overturning Obamacare at 96%. What's your point? 

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Intrade had odds of the Supreme Court overturning Obamacare at 96%. What's your point? 

There's a big difference there.   They had to guess what 1 or 2 members of the SCOTUS would do. 

In this case, they have to guess what 100 million people will do.   MUCH easier. 

Surely you can tell the difference here?  It's much easier to predict things with bigger numbers and ANY kind of sampling size.  They couldn't exactly survey the 9 people on the court.

A single decision of 1 man is WAY tougher to predict, than the decisions of 100 mil people who are being polled.

When it comes to presidential elections, INTRADE = more accurate than Gallup, Rass, 538, etc.  No arguing it.

[Hawk]

Intrade had odds of the Supreme Court overturning Obamacare at 96%. What's your point? 

I think his point is...

Romney STINKS and is going to lose.

[Fury]

There's a big difference there.   They had to guess what 1 or 2 members of the SCOTUS would do. 

In this case, they have to guess what 100 million people will do.   MUCH easier. 

Surely you can tell the difference here?  It's much easier to predict things with bigger numbers and ANY kind of sampling size.  They couldn't exactly survey the 9 people on the court.

A single decision of 1 man is WAY tougher to predict, than the decisions of 100 mil people who are being polled.

When it comes to presidential elections, INTRADE = more accurate than Gallup, Rass, 538, etc.  No arguing it.

Not really. You've been consistently wrong about almost of all your political predictions over the last 2+ years. You predicted the Dems holding the house and you BOMBED the Florida governor race. I really couldn't care less about any of your predictions. 

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Not really. You've been consistently wrong about almost of all your political predictions over the last 2+ years. You predicted the Dems holding the house and you BOMBED the Florida governor race. I really couldn't care less about any of your predictions. 

Yep, "I" was wrong.  But Intrade, when it comes to presidential race in 2008, was spot-on.

In 2008, Intrade destoryed the others.  Period.  No arguing it.
Predicting the decisions of "1" man is WAY tougher than of predicting "100,000,000" people that you can poll.  No arguing it.

I don't know what we are arguing about here - - - Intrade's 2008 success, or the difference between predicting what 1 man will do vs 10 million.  Which is it?  Because usually I'm a fuckstick d-bag who argues anything just to argue - but on these 2 points, I'm correct.

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You feel good about Romney and his chances, MCWAY?
Your HONEST thoughts, not what your GOP buddies on this board want to read. You think Romney's going to win over independants and voters in OH that kept their jobs thanks to the auto bailout?
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Of course, I do. The fact that the media has to keep spitting out these polls that WAAAAY oversample Democrats, that they use every misstep (actual or perceived) of Romney to declare his presidency dead, shows me that Obama is in serious trouble.

As for your question about independents, traditionally independents break AGAINST THE INCUMBENT in presidential races. I see little in this election to suggest the contrary. As for the folks in Ohio, you forget that the auto industry does NOT comprise all of the voters in Ohio. Plus, it appears only the union workers got their jobs saved. Others have been shafted.

For an incumbent to be under 50% approval (average) this late in the game (with the media so far in the tank for him that it's ridiculous) is hardly good news for him. Romney's in striking distance. Reagan was in the same position or worse against Carter; yet he clobbered Carter on election day.

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"The fact that the media has to keep spitting out these polls that WAAAAY oversample Democrats"

538.com had dems with a 39% chance of winning senate in 2012, just a month ago.
Today, 538.com has dems with a 79% chance of winning senate in 2012.

Now, unless they JUST started oversampling dems, it's hard to deny at least SOME people are shifting from repub to dem.