Ted Koppel Gives it to FoxNews - To Their Face!!

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[MCWAY]

WAAAH!! WAAAH!! WAAAH!!! A news network that doesn't kiss Obama's behind and covers for Democrats.....OH THE HORROR!!

The left no longer has a monopoly on the media. Of course, their old guard are going to bleat and whine about it.

[Soul Crusher]

WAAAH!! WAAAH!! WAAAH!!! A news network that doesn't kiss Obama's behind and covers for Democrats.....OH THE HORROR!!

The left no longer has a monopoly on the media. Of course, their old guard are going to bleat and whine about it.

Leftists and communists hate dissenting voices and hate freedom of speech. 

[Straw Man]

Leftists and communists hate dissenting voices and hate freedom of speech. 

That must be why you like MSNBC so much....the freedom of speech

[Soul Crusher]

That must be why you like MSNBC so much....the freedom of speech

I hate MSNBC because they put on the dumbest bunch of freak shows on the planet.  Martin Bashir and Fat Ed and Mad Cow?    LMFAO!!!!!

[Straw Man]

I hate MSNBC because they put on the dumbest bunch of freak shows on the planet.  Martin Bashir and Fat Ed and Mad Cow?    LMFAO!!!!!

you HATE them because you HATE dissenting voices and you especially HATE freedm of speech

sound familiar?

[Soul Crusher]

you HATE them because you HATE dissenting voices and you especially HATE freedm of speech

sound familiar?

Absolutely not - i love the fact that the progressive communists and socialists on MSNBC get to spout their bullshit for all the world to see and laugh at

[Straw Man]

Absolutely not - i love the fact that the progressive communists and socialists on MSNBC get to spout their bullshit for all the world to see and laugh at

Hey Schitzo - make up your mind

You just said you hated them 10 minutes ago

[Soul Crusher]

Hey Schitzo - make up your mind

You just said you hated them 10 minutes ago

I hate them but defend their right to be on the air and spew lies and communist bs.  The two are not mutually exclusive moron. 

[Straw Man]

I hate them but defend their right to be on the air and spew lies and communist bs.  The two are not mutually exclusive moron. 

That's the first time I've heard you say it
Ill try to remind you when you contradict yourself which will probably be 5 minutes from now

[MCWAY]

I hate them but defend their right to be on the air and spew lies and communist bs.  The two are not mutually exclusive moron.  

In other words, he isn't crying for them to be put out of business or silenced, unlike lefties with Fox News and talk radio.

[Straw Man]

In other words, he isn't crying for them to be put out of business or silences, unlike lefties with Fox News and talk radio.

most "lefties" only complain about the pattern of blatant LIES from Faux News and not to "silence" them or put them out of business.    There have been attempts to boycot scumbags like Rush for the absolutely horrible shit he says but then the right wing does the exact same thing, and more often too (before you object go look at the of the nonsense boycotted by your fellow wingnut fundies)

[MCWAY]

most "lefties" only complain about the pattern of blatant LIES from Faux News and not to "silence" them or put them out of business.    There have been attempts to boycot scumbags like Rush for the absolutely horrible shit he says but then the right wing does the exact same thing, and more often too (before you object go look at the of the nonsense boycotted by your fellow wingnut fundies)

What "blatant" lies? Weren't you asked to give some specific examples of such alleged lies on another thread?

[Straw Man]

What "blatant" lies? Weren't you asked to give some specific examples of such alleged lies on another thread?

are you seriously asking me for a list of blatant lies that have been seen on the air of Faux News over the years

Seriously

Are you even aware that they won a court case which basically affirmed their right to lie

[MCWAY]

are you seriously asking me for a list of blatant lies that have been seen on the air of Faux News over the years

Seriously


Are you even aware that they won a court case which basically affirmed their right to lie

Just what I figured. You're regurgitating liberal BS, That crap has been debunked (including here) on numerous occasions.

There was no court case about Fox News and any so-called right to lie.

One, this wasn't the Fox News Channel. It was a LOCAL TV STATION in the Tampa Bay area that carried Fox programming (WTVT, Channel 13, back in my hometown).

The suit was that two reporters for WTVT were supposedly fired because they wouldn't fabricate a story for the boss of that station, NOT the Fox News Channel.

That claim was THROWN OUT OF COURT, by a judge. But, one of the reporters won a settlement for several hundred thousand dollars, under a state whistleblowing law. WTVT appealed that to higher court, which REVERSED that portion of the lower court ruling. But, the appeals court UPHELD the lower court ruling that WTVT (not the Fox News Channel) did not ask them to lie about a story nor fire them for refusal.

http://www.campaignfreedom.org/2009/11/03/fox-lies-videotape-debunking-an-internet-myth/

You didn't give any specifics then; you aren't giving any specifics now.

[Straw Man]

Just what I figured. You're regurgitating liberal BS, That crap has been debunked (including here) on numerous occasions.

There was no court case about Fox News and any so-called right to lie.

One, this wasn't the Fox News Channel. It was a LOCAL TV STATION in the Tampa Bay area that carried Fox programming (WTVT, Channel 13, back in my hometown).

The suit was that two reporters for WTVT were supposedly fired because they wouldn't fabricate a story for the boss of that station, NOT the Fox News Channel.

That claim was THROWN OUT OF COURT, by a judge. But, one of the reporters won a settlement for several hundred thousand dollars, under a state whistleblowing law. WTVT appealed that to higher court, which REVERSED that portion of the lower court ruling. But, the appeals court UPHELD the lower court ruling that WTVT (not the Fox News Channel) did not ask them to lie about a story nor fire them for refusal.
http://www.campaignfreedom.org/2009/11/03/fox-lies-videotape-debunking-an-internet-myth/

false

the first case was won by Akre and Wilson and turned over on appeal

Fox argued there was no law against lying and that it was their right to do so and the appeals court agreed with them

This was THE ARGUMENT made by the Fox attornies in their appeal and they never denied the plaintiffs claim that she was pressured to air a false story was innacurate....rather, that it simply wasn't against the law

FOX appealed the case, and on February 14, 2003 the Florida Second District Court of Appeals unanimously overturned the settlement awarded to Akre. The Court held that Akre’s threat to report the station’s actions to the FCC did not deserve protection under Florida’s whistle blower statute, because Florida’s whistle blower law states that an employer must violate an adopted “law, rule, or regulation." In a stunningly narrow interpretation of FCC rules, the Florida Appeals court claimed that the FCC policy against falsification of the news does not rise to the level of a "law, rule, or regulation," it was simply a "policy." Therefore, it is up to the station whether or not it wants to report honestly.

During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so. After the appeal verdict WTVT general manager Bob Linger commented, “It’s vindication for WTVT, and we’re very pleased… It’s the case we’ve been making for two years. She never had a legal claim

http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html

[LurkerNoMore]

Mark Foley - (D)
Larry Craig - (D)
Breaking News WMD found in Iraq
Defending drug addict Rush - "As for seeking out illegal drug prescriptions, we should remember that for almost the entire rest of the world there is no such thing as an illegal prescription."

on and on and on...

[LurkerNoMore]

Scooter Libby - Not Guilty


hahaha that was my favorite

[MCWAY]

false

the first case was won by Akre and Wilson and turned over on appeal

Fox argued there was no law against lying and that it was their right to do so and the appeals court agreed with them

This was THE ARGUMENT made by the Fox attornies in their appeal and they never denied the plaintiffs claim that she was pressured to air a false story was innacurate....rather, that it simply wasn't against the law

http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html

WRONG AGAIN, Straw.

Although there has been much back-and-forth among the parties about whether the jury in the employment lawsuit found that Station WTVT(TV) violated the news distortion policy, the verdict form did not ask the jury to determine whether WTVT(TV) violated the news distortion policy, but rather to determine whether Station WTVT(TV) fired either employee for threatening to disclose what the Petitioners reasonably believed would be a violation of the news distortion policy.....

So the trial jury never reached a conclusion on whether the FOX affiliate had violated the news distortion policy, nor did they have to in order to determine she had been fired in response to the threat by Akre and Wilson to file a complaint with the FCC.

More importantly, and more relevant to the examination of whether WTVT actually asserted a”right to lie”in its newscasts, is that there is nothing on record to show that this argument was ever advanced in court.



And, as you apparently missed, the lower court THREW OUT HER CLAIM that the network tried to force her to air a deliberately false story.

[Straw Man]

McWay should get a job at Fox News

the LIE by McWay

Just what I figured. You're regurgitating liberal BS, That crap has been debunked (including here) on numerous occasions.

There was no court case about Fox News and any so-called right to lie.

One, this wasn't the Fox News Channel. It was a LOCAL TV STATION in the Tampa Bay area that carried Fox programming (WTVT, Channel 13, back in my hometown).

The suit was that two reporters for WTVT were supposedly fired because they wouldn't fabricate a story for the boss of that station, NOT the Fox News Channel.

That claim was THROWN OUT OF COURT, by a judge. But, one of the reporters won a settlement for several hundred thousand dollars, under a state whistleblowing law. WTVT appealed that to higher court, which REVERSED that portion of the lower court ruling. But, the appeals court UPHELD the lower court ruling that WTVT (not the Fox News Channel) did not ask them to lie about a story nor fire them for refusal.
http://www.campaignfreedom.org/2009/11/03/fox-lies-videotape-debunking-an-internet-myth/

You didn't give any specifics then; you aren't giving any specifics now.

and the truth from his own link:

During their appeal, FOX… argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the”right to lie”or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so.

[MCWAY]

McWay should get a job at Fox News

the LIE by McWay


and the truth from his own link:

Can you actually read? The link I posted breaks down the GIBBERISH you're spewing (namely from a guy, named Michael Gaddy) and takes it apart, piece by piece.


There's no dispute, BECAUSE THE LOWER COURT ALREADY RULED in WTVT's favor on the matter.


Akre and Wilson sued WTVT alleging… that their terminations had been in retaliation for their resisting WTVT’s attempts to distort or suppress the BGH story and for threatening to report the alleged news distortion to the FCC. Akre also brought claims for declaratory relief and for breach of contract. After a four-week trial, a jury found against Wilson on all of his claims. The trial court directed a verdict against Akre on her breach of contract claim, Akre abandoned her claim for declaratory relief, and the trial court let her whistle-blower claims go to the jury. The jury rejected all of Akre’s claims except her claim that WTVT retaliated against her in response to her threat to disclose the alleged news distortion to the FCC.
And, lost in all of this, GENIUS, is that this case IS ABOUT WTVT, a LOCAL STATION in the Tampa Bay Area, NOT FOX NEWS CHANNEL

[LurkerNoMore]

I posted specific lies.  Any word on those?

[Straw Man]

Can you actually read? The link I posted breaks down the GIBBERISH you're spewing and takes it apart, piece by piece.


There's no dispute, BECAUSE THE LOWER COURT ALREADY RULED in WTVT's favor on the matter.

And, lost in all of this, GENIUS, is that this case IS ABOUT WTVT, a LOCAL STATION in the Tampa Bay Area, NOT FOX NEWS CHANNEL

your own link says FOX affiliate and owned station

YOU falsely claimed that the court determined that WTVT (A Fox affiliate and owned station) did not ask them to lie about a story nor fire them for refusal.

The court did NO SUCH THING

Foxs argument was that it was their RIGHT to LIE and there was no violatin of the law for doing so.........PERIOD

the appeals court agreed with that claim

[Soul Crusher]

Middle east is collapsing, economy collapsing, foreign policy collapsing, and you leftist turds care about Fox News. 

[MCWAY]

I posted specific lies.  Any word on those?

As if Fox News is the only station to mistakenly botch the party of a politician.

As for drug things, what was a "lie" about that? There are numerous countries where drugs that are illegal here are as easy to get as aspiring (why do you think bodybuilders go to Mexico?).

As for the WMDs, that story broke on several news stations.

It appears you can't tell the difference between mistakes and lies.

You want lies? Try NBC DELIBERATELY ALTERING the Geroge Zimmerman 911 tape.