High rep traning for gains?

[Howard]

I have found that high rep/max pump training can be good for gains.
This may fly in the face of convetional wisdom, but I have gotten in my contest condition via high rep training and supersets, etc.
I was looking at some old pics where, for 1 yr , I did a lot more higher rep training ( minimum 10 - 15 reps per set).
I was actually bigger along with better separation and fullness.
I even did some 100 rep sets a couple times a month and that worked really well.

Toney Freeman says ( in his X man DVD) he trains higher rep pump sets and says it is the most effective way to train.

[Stefano]

I have found that high rep/max pump training can be good for gains.
This may fly in the face of convetional wisdom, but I have gotten in my contest condition via high rep training and supersets, etc.
I was looking at some old pics where, for 1 yr , I did a lot more higher rep training ( minimum 10 - 15 reps per set).
I was actually bigger along with better separation and fullness.
I even did some 100 rep sets a couple times a month and that worked really well.

Toney Freeman says ( in his X man DVD) he trains higher rep pump sets and says it is the most effective way to train.

Still following a bodybuilders dvd/mag advice?
Experiment and figure out what works for you. Not everyone responds the same way.

[_bruce_]

Did 100 reps holding onto a 15 lbs dumbbell and I'm feeling changes in knees quads already.

[#1 Klaus fan]

Volume is way more important than high resistance.

[cephissus]

everybody claims something else

in the end it's all a big pile of shit

take roids and lift weights is the only way to get results everyone agrees on this tho

beautiful post; i have a tear in my eye.

[_bruce_]

everybody claims something else

in the end it's all a big pile of shit

take roids and lift weights is the only way to get results everyone agrees on this tho

Plato couldn't have put it more elegantly.

[Donny]

Did 100 reps holding onto a 15 lbs dumbbell and I'm feeling changes in knees quads already.

well when i had knee problems i did 3 super sets of leg extensions, 15reps and free hand squats ..about 50 reps. I had great pump, this was advice from Bob Kennedy( telephone).

[SF1900]

What are we considering high reps? Ronnie usually did 12 reps per set. That is considered "high" for bodybuilding.

[supernick]

With the ammount of stuff tony Freemans running he could use the Shake Weight and make gains

[Moen]

A study from a few years ago concluded it's intensity of effort, as in going to failure, that makes or breaks a set for hypertrophy. Whether that was for 5, 10, 20 or even more reps made no significant difference.

That also explains why cyclists often have huge legs. I'm sure if you'd put them on pro bodybuilding cycles and continued to let them cycle all day, they'd have legs as big as IFBB pro's.

(no, pro cyclists aren't blasting 5gr or more of steroids per week)

[Howard]

With the ammount of stuff tony Freemans running he could use the Shake Weight and make gains

LOL, shake wt.
Ya , I know of plenty of gym rats on every drug under the sun.
 But guess what none of 'em look anything close to Toney Freeman or a good IFBB pro.
If drugs made a Mr O, how come most juice monkeys don't look that great?
answer: ya gotta have the genetic talent for bodybuilding, just like any sport.

[Howard]

Still following a bodybuilders dvd/mag advice?
Experiment and figure out what works for you. Not everyone responds the same way.

I experimented with high reps , back when I competed, which was YEARS before his DVD came out.
I refer to his dvd because it was cool to see a top pro with massive size train with higher reps.

[Rudee]

Toney Freeman says ( in his X man DVD) he trains higher rep pump sets and says it is the most effective way to train.

For him perhaps, but that doesn't mean it's as effective for everybody else.  The same way that Bench Press might make one persons chest grow like a weed, while another person may find flys work much better.  Bodybuilding is all about experimentation to find out what works best for YOU!

[mesmorph78]

I think high rep training has its place , this week as i have  my shoulder and elbow i tried it out.. on shoulder and also arm day
every excersise 100 reps, so  sets of 20 under a minute rest between sets restng only or my training partner to finish his set....
and i can tell you i am sore all over... i never get sore for arms ...... they are pumped and full
so i might do this once a month....
5 excersises or shoulders =

4 exercises for bis
 or tris
40 sec rest between sets if that... very challenging

[The Abdominal Snoman]

A lot of guys starting to get into contest shape love to do high reps/high volume because they want to be in the gym longer because they like the attention of being in really good shape. Toads

[Marty Champions]

great idea howard heavy or light training must be the key!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marty Champions]

[HTexan]

225X10 = 300X1

[Marty Champions]

REMEMBER HIOWARD THIS WEIGHT MIGHT NOT BE TOO HEAVY OR NOT LIGHT ENOUGH FOR MAXIMUM GAYNS BRO!!! 

[Hulkotron]

Great post Falcon

[mantronik]

Muscle consists of red and white muscle fibers (some more red and less white and others vice versa) so it only makes sense in order to completely stimulate the muscle to do both types of workouts (high reps as well as low reps) to get the max out of your workout.

[Marty Champions]

BE CAREFUL TO USE THE RIGHT WEIGHT BROS IF USING THE INCORRECT POUNDAGE CAN MAKE YOU A FAKGOT

[Howard]

I think high rep training has its place , this week as i have  my shoulder and elbow i tried it out.. on shoulder and also arm day
every excersise 100 reps, so  sets of 20 under a minute rest between sets restng only or my training partner to finish his set....
and i can tell you i am sore all over... i never get sore for arms ...... they are pumped and full
so i might do this once a month....
5 excersises or shoulders =

4 exercises for bis
 or tris
40 sec rest between sets if that... very challenging

Good ideas here ,  any for legs?

[Hulkotron]

I like to do a mix of high and low reps.

hth

[mesmorph78]

yes tomorrow ill be doing  
squats 5 sets 20 reps
leg press 5 sets 20 reps
leg extensions 5 sets 20 reps
ham string curls 5 sets 20 reps
...
 rest between set as long as my training partner takes to finish his reps

did this last week or shoulders and arms, both are still sore...... after years of heavy training every single week more challenging thn lifting heavy burned like a mutha...  this really worked for me
helped me hit those slow twitch muscle fires (long overdue).
definitely recommend