amazing how the guy wins the olympia n pretty soon most guys here rip on him all the time... when he was comin up everybody was sayin hes the next multi oylmpia winner and they were all right on the money with that,,,but now they dont like him i seriously dont get it...alota bodybuilders are the same because in order to win ya have to be...its like any great business model...they all more or less follow it....but if ya win no matter who u r all these guys hate on u and dont even know you....ill bet if u were a real bodybuilder n not just an internet persona you would have much in common and like each other,,, imo