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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #275 on: October 04, 2012, 08:30:54 AM »
I see the foreign policy debate as a chance for romney to fall into a trap, like obama in 2008 agreeing to meet foreign leaders in year #1.

Obama can't defend his economic performance, and he was whooped last night.  Romney looked like he'd been at the spa - seriously looked 5 years younger with that epic leanz smirk you get from running ECA stack lol... obama needed coffee and a facial scrub. 

On foreign policy, I think obama will be able to rattle off his list of accomlishments - and romney has the tough spot of arguing Neocon Obama.  More or fewer predator drone attacks?  How does romney answer that?  Kill less bad guys?  Or obama's doing it right? 

Economy, romney should win that debate.  Foreign policy is tougher.  Obama stacked up a lot of dead bad guys.


Are you forgetting the disaster in the ME obama caused? 

How about Obama's "flexibility" on russia? 

Bin Laden?   Yeah - Bin Laden is dead - but so is the ambassador and 3 others while our embassies were torched by people saying obam ob am oba ma we are all osama. 


Obama's disastrous record is getting exposed and the liberal bubble of drones have nothing left. 

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #276 on: October 04, 2012, 08:35:01 AM »

Are you forgetting the disaster in the ME obama caused? 

How about Obama's "flexibility" on russia? 

 but so is the ambassador and 3 others while our embassies were torched by people saying obam ob am oba ma we are all osama. 


Typical liberal response:  Those things would have happened anyway. It wouldn't matter who was the president.

Yes, they will actually say that with a straight face while denying Obama's incompetence in the arena of world affairs.

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #277 on: October 04, 2012, 08:36:01 AM »
Typical liberal response:  Those things would have happened anyway. It wouldn't matter who was the president.

Yes, they will actually say that with a straight face while denying Obama's incompetence in the arena of world affairs.


So the good things would have happened anyway.. the bad shit... thats all Obamas fault

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #278 on: October 04, 2012, 08:38:15 AM »
So the good things would have happened anyway.. the bad shit... thats all Obamas fault



Obama put the MB into power in egypt, tunisia and Lybia and refused security at the fucking embassy.  Remember? 

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #279 on: October 04, 2012, 08:40:13 AM »

Are you forgetting the disaster in the ME obama caused?
How abut Obama's "flexibility" on russia?  
Bin Laden?   Yeah - Bin Laden is dead - but so is the ambassador and 3 others while our embassies were torched by people saying obam ob am oba ma we are all osama.  
Obama's disastrous record is getting exposed and the liberal bubble of drones have nothing left.  

I think obama will be effective in framing them to his benefit on this.

The middle east would be in upheaval under mccain right now too.  Even romney admits we won't fix some problems there, on the 47% video.

if Romney was a "10" at exposing obama on the economy, I think he'll be "less than 10" when it comes to foreign policy.  Romney is an economic guy.  He's not a foreign policy guy.

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Olympia 2012: Romney Absolutely destroying Brobama in debate.
« Reply #280 on: October 04, 2012, 08:42:24 AM »
While the president may have had a brief moment of exuding his presidential attributes with Medicare, he was often dominated by the litany of facts thrown at him by Romney highlighting the economic pain his presidency has inflicted upon the nation.  The right hooks Romney delivered on jobs, the economy, and the crony capitalism connected to green energy rendered Obama’s statement on corporate welfare for oil companies moot.  Furthermore, Obama seemed to sabotage his own efforts to scare seniors with the false narrative that Romney wants to destroy Medicare.  He agreed that Romney’s reforms to our entitlement programs aren’t that much different from his policies.


As a result, the president gave Romney the death stare midway through the debate.  There’s no doubt that the stare, coupled with the puckered up lips, were indicators that Romney got under Obama’s skin.  In an ironic twist, Obama seems to have become John McCain concerning the feelings of indignation towards those who dare to have opposing views on the issues.  For Obama, Romney disagreeing with him isn’t just wrong – it’s somehow reprehensible.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/10/04/romney-destroys-obama-in-first-debate-left-wingers-go-nuts/
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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #281 on: October 04, 2012, 08:43:54 AM »
I think obama will be effective in framing them to his benefit on this.

The middle east would be in upheaval under mccain right now too.  Even romney admits we won't fix some problems there, on the 47% video.

if Romney was a "10" at exposing obama on the economy, I think he'll be "less than 10" when it comes to foreign policy.  Romney is an economic guy.  He's not a foreign policy guy.

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how a dead ambassador can be framed as a benefit. If anything this puts the spot light on just how naive Obama's world view is
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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #282 on: October 04, 2012, 08:43:58 AM »
I think obama will be effective in framing them to his benefit on this.

The middle east would be in upheaval under mccain right now too.  Even romney admits we won't fix some problems there, on the 47% video.

if Romney was a "10" at exposing obama on the economy, I think he'll be "less than 10" when it comes to foreign policy.  Romney is an economic guy.  He's not a foreign policy guy.

lol Romney should say -

"Mr. President while on your world apology tour, somehow you forgot to apologize to  Mexico, the one country who actually deserves an apology for your terrible policies like Fast n Furious where 300 of their citizens were killed as a result of you running guns to drug lords."  



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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #283 on: October 04, 2012, 08:45:01 AM »
I think obama will be effective in framing them to his benefit on this.

The middle east would be in upheaval under mccain right now too.  Even romney admits we won't fix some problems there, on the 47% video.

if Romney was a "10" at exposing obama on the economy, I think he'll be "less than 10" when it comes to foreign policy.  Romney is an economic guy.  He's not a foreign policy guy.

Neither is Obama. His foreign policy is abysmal, even WITH killing Bin Laden. That was nearly a year and half ago and so much has jumped off, since then. The mere fact that Obama's numbers plunged back to where they were when Bin Laden was alive, in less than a month, pretty much tells the story.

This Libya debacle DESTROYS any foreign policy edge Obama may have had, especially with all the cover-up and bald-face LIES, trying to blame a YouTube video for this mess.

Two scandals, involving foreign policy, with DEAD AMERICANS as a result....enough said.

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #284 on: October 04, 2012, 08:50:44 AM »
Neither is Obama. His foreign policy is abysmal, even WITH killing Bin Laden. That was nearly a year and half ago and so much has jumped off, since then. The mere fact that Obama's numbers plunged back to where they were when Bin Laden was alive, in less than a month, pretty much tells the story.

This Libya debacle DESTROYS any foreign policy edge Obama may have had, especially with all the cover-up and bald-face LIES, trying to blame a YouTube video for this mess.

Two scandals, involving foreign policy, with DEAD AMERICANS as a result....enough said.



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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #285 on: October 04, 2012, 08:54:58 AM »
Gore blames Obama debate performance on Denver's altitude
 Politico ^ | 10/4/12 10:59 AM EDT | Byron Tau


Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:27:30 AM


Former Vice President Al Gore floated an interesting theory for President Obama's widely panned debate performance: Denver's thin air.

"Obama arrived in Denver at 2 PM today — Just a few hours before the debate started," Gore said Wednesday on his Current TV network.

"Romney did his debate prep in Denver. When you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust -- I don't know," Gore said.


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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #286 on: October 04, 2012, 08:56:07 AM »
Gore blames Obama debate performance on Denver's altitude
 Politico ^ | 10/4/12 10:59 AM EDT | Byron Tau


Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:27:30 AM


Former Vice President Al Gore floated an interesting theory for President Obama's widely panned debate performance: Denver's thin air.

"Obama arrived in Denver at 2 PM today — Just a few hours before the debate started," Gore said Wednesday on his Current TV network.

"Romney did his debate prep in Denver. When you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust -- I don't know," Gore said.


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Good Lord, and this asshole was a heartbeat away from being POTUS..............
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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #287 on: October 04, 2012, 09:02:18 AM »
Good Lord, and this asshole was a heartbeat away from being POTUS..............

Just when you think libs have exhausted their well of excuses for getting beat down.......

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #288 on: October 04, 2012, 09:03:22 AM »
Just when you think libs have exhausted their well of excuses for getting beat down.......

The left is always full of blame and excuses for their failures. 

Obama blames . . . . . . .. .

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #289 on: October 04, 2012, 09:06:43 AM »
October 4, 2012
The Obama Myth Will Not Survive the Debates
Anthony G. Dispenza
 




Last night's presidential debate between President Obama and challenger Mitt Romney was an astounding contrast with the past four years. Conservatives must finally feel validated, while non-conservatives can only be shocked. The supposedly great orator Obama was vastly outdone in both substance and delivery by a very articulate and well-prepared Romney. And while the next few days will certainly see both sides of the aisle parsing every word and "checking" all the facts, what must not be glossed over is that shock of defeat felt on the Left.
 
That shock is due to the massive gap between perception and reality that has been created and maintained by the liberal media for decades, but more so than ever in the last four years as they've defended this abysmal presidency. The fraudulence of Obama's presidency is so great that only an analogy can bring us close to sufficiently expressing that fraud. In the movie The Gladiator, Roman Emperor Commodus abuses his power to rule over the people with an iron fist and to ensure that he is viewed favorably, while the truly great man in Maximus is initially thought to be a mere slave and far inferior to Commodus. When confronted with the man himself, however, the Coliseum crowds come to adore the brave gladiator, and Commodus' advantage of holding favor by hiding behind the power of the state is diminished. Eventually Commodus has no choice but to engage the truly superior Maximus face-to-face, and despite cheating, Commodus loses. The last four years and their culmination in last night's debate have been quite similar.
 
From the time Obama gave his now-famous speech at the Democratic National Convention in 2004 to today, the liberal establishment that pervades and indoctrinates American society has relentlessly pushed the idea that Barack Obama is the most well-spoken, brilliant, wisest president that ever graced this country with his service. After being president for about five minutes Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. The historian Michael Beschloss told radio host Don Imus that Obama is the smartest president with the highest IQ ever.  David Brooks was amazed that, in addition to his "perfectly creased pant" Obama was even smarter than Brooks on both policy and political philosophy. Chris Matthews felt a "thrill" going up his leg when listening to Obama speak. San Francisco Chronicle's Mark Morford said Obama would show us "a new way of being on the planet". And Newsweek's Evan Thomas declared on MSNBC, "I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above - above the world, he's sort of God."
 
This sort of treatment by the liberal establishment has gone on for four years, with Obama being credited for all American successes -- both real and imagined -- while blame for America's struggles is assigned to anyone but Obama. Last night, however, The University of Denver served as the Coliseum, the people's Maximus was found in Mitt Romney, and our Commodus-like-president had nowhere to hide. And while we slave-like peasants -- as we conservatives are viewed by Obama -- knew the strength of our fellow gladiator, the blinded masses had their eyes opened for the first time. Just as Commodus, the privileged son of the Emperor, never had to actually fight, Obama has never before had to reconcile his view of the world with reality. From community organizer to "constitutional scholar," to absentee Senator to the presidency, Obama has lived his entire life in a world of mere ideas without ever having to depend on the truth of those ideas. Obama never needed a speech or a dissertation or a memoir to have any basis in reality in order to house himself or feed his children; he needed only to perpetuate the lies that his liberal followers were so eager to believe. Mitt Romney, on the other hand, has gone from management consultant to CEO to a United States governor. In addition to building his own fortune in the financial sector, as the governor of Massachusetts Romney was responsible for managing the United States' sixth highest state-GDP per capita.
 
Before last night, though, non-conservatives, having little interest in or understanding of politics, could only rely on the liberal orthodoxy of pop culture to decide which presidential candidate was best. Not hearing the candidates exchange ideas directly, the overwhelmingly liberal news media, Hollywood, and academia have undoubtedly given Obama an unfair advantage. After four years of hiding behind ads and speeches, fake polls and documentaries, and cheap slogans and divisive tirades, though, Obama had to come out of hiding for last night's debate. During the 2010 Health Care Summit we were given a glimpse of what happens when Obama is directly challenged. Obama waded into shark infested waters, two of those "sharks" being Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor. Being challenged was obviously new to Obama and he was clearly both angered and intimidated, but desperate to maintain the appearance of belonging, as the two true intellectuals Ryan and Cantor exploited Obama's lack of qualification for the office.
 
The duel of Maximus versus Commodus was completely one-sided, so much so that even the liberal media seemed to concede the debate to Romney in their post-debate analysis. Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz both asked, "Where was Obama tonight?" In terms of style, Romney clearly articulated conservative principles, cited specific policies, and buttressed both with plenty of facts and figures. Romney looked Obama in the eye when addressing him, and looked at the camera when addressing America, and spoke clearly without hesitation. When Romney rebutted Obama he would take Obama's statements point by point like a lawyer prosecuting a case, as it was described by Senator of Ohio Rob Portman and FOX News analyst Neil Cavuto.
 
When speaking, Obama looked down at the podium or searched the ceiling for answers, but rarely at Romney or the camera. His usual agitation at those who disagree with him was apparent, and he even snipped at moderator Jim Lehrer. Obama's overall strategy was to accuse Romney of being vague no matter how specific Romney was, and to make false claims about Romney's intentions as president.
 
The debate result itself will not surprise conservatives. After all, Obama is already known by informed citizens to be "the least qualified man in any room he walks into," to paraphrase Rush Limbaugh. The title of Ed Klein's new book on Obama, The Amateur, sums up well the dirty little secret of this presidency; Barack Obama has no idea what he's doing. As conservatives we've disliked liberal presidencies in the past but usually felt that the president, albeit wrong, at least had some basic understanding of what the results of his actions would be. Obama, however, leaves one with the gnawing fear that his qualifications are more akin to a teenage emperor of ancient China than the adult emperor of Rome. As for Romney, let us hope that our conservative gladiator has many more successful battles in the near future.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/the_obama_myth_will_not_survive_the_debates.html#ixzz28LZeCkiz

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #290 on: October 04, 2012, 09:21:46 AM »
I could careless whats in this thread, 333's meme pics are killing me...hahahahahahaha!

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #292 on: October 04, 2012, 09:23:33 AM »
I could careless whats in this thread, 333's meme pics are killing me...hahahahahahaha!

They are all over Facebook.   

The Cult of Obama is in sheer panic 

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #293 on: October 04, 2012, 09:31:06 AM »
romney won the debate last night,let's see how it plays out.fact checkers are haveing a field day with romney and his lies.once people here all the facts they will see it for what it is ;D

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #294 on: October 04, 2012, 09:39:20 AM »
97,000 posts.. how is that even possible?? I've been here 2 yrs longer... how do you hold down a job, Go to the gym, experience life... when you have almost 100,000 posts on here? Wow..

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #295 on: October 04, 2012, 09:42:10 AM »
romney won the debate last night,let's see how it plays out.fact checkers are haveing a field day with romney and his lies.once people here all the facts they will see it for what it is ;D

Fact check has become BS since it usually favors Obama no matter what. This one, however, is right on...lol

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/04/Fact-Check-Top-5-Liberal-Excuses-for-Obama-Losing-the-First-Presidential-Debate-to-Romney

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Re: Tonight's Presidential Debate Discussion
« Reply #296 on: October 04, 2012, 09:45:27 AM »
romney won the debate last night,let's see how it plays out.fact checkers are haveing a field day with romney and his lies.once people here all the facts they will see it for what it is ;D

You don't want to go there with the "fact-checkers". Otherwise, Obama will get dismembered even more than he did last night.

If Romney was supposedly lying, the BRRRIIILLLLLAAAANNNT Obama should have easily taken him to task on it. Instead, the exact opposite happened. Every time Obama put one of his inaccuracies out there about Romney's plans (and his own), Romney sliced them to ribbons and beat Obama over the head WITH THE FACTS.

He even pummeled Obama with Obama's signature piece of legislation, ObamaCare, which was supposed to be Romney's biggest weakness.

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Re: Olympia 2012: Romney Absolutely destroying Brobama in debate.
« Reply #297 on: October 04, 2012, 09:54:48 AM »
And justice "fro" all...
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Re: Olympia 2012: Romney Absolutely destroying Brobama in debate.
« Reply #299 on: October 04, 2012, 10:00:20 AM »
and yet Obama is still going to win in 2012 because every single African American and every white-guilt liberal is going to vote for him.

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