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« on: October 09, 2012, 06:20:21 PM »

Heaven is real, says neurosurgeon who claims to have visited the afterlife
By Eric Pfeiffer

Dr. Eben Alexander has taught at Harvard Medical School and has earned a strong reputation as a neurosurgeon. And while Alexander says he's long called himself a Christian, he never held deeply religious beliefs or a pronounced faith in the afterlife.

But after a week in a coma during the fall of 2008, during which his neocortex ceased to function, Alexander claims he experienced a life-changing visit to the afterlife, specifically heaven.

"According to current medical understanding of the brain and mind, there is absolutely no way that I could have experienced even a dim and limited consciousness during my time in the coma, much less the hyper-vivid and completely coherent odyssey I underwent," Alexander writes in the cover story of this week's edition of Newsweek.

So what exactly does heaven look like?

Alexander says he first found himself floating above clouds before witnessing, "transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamer like lines behind them."

He claims to have been escorted by an unknown female companion and says he communicated with these beings through a method of correspondence that transcended language. Alexander says the messages he received from those beings loosely translated as:

"You are loved and cherished, dearly, forever."

"You have nothing to fear."

"There is nothing you can do wrong."

From there, Alexander claims to have traveled to "an immense void, completely dark, infinite in size, yet also infinitely comforting." He believes this void was the home of God.

After recovering from his meningitis-induced coma, Alexander says he was reluctant to share his experience with his colleagues but found comfort inside the walls of his church. He's chronicled his experience in a new book, "Proof of Heaven: A neurosurgeon's journey into the afterlife," which will be published in late October.

"I'm still a doctor, and still a man of science every bit as much as I was before I had my experience," Alexander writes. "But on a deep level I'm very different from the person I was before, because I've caught a glimpse of this emerging picture of reality. And you can believe me when I tell you that it will be worth every bit of the work it will take us, and those who come after us, to get it right."


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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 06:50:30 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 08:20:25 AM »

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You know, I'd love to belief this and I'll give the benefit of the doubt, but at first blush I'm inclined to feel the same way.   From what I gather, he was a nominal Christian (as so many are) and was in a coma.  That said, I don't think he was a born again Christian, but is a man that believes in God and assoicates himself with the Christian church but isn't quite sure about how he truly feels.  Plus, the description of God in darkness is contrary to what is presented in scripture.  All descriptions of heaven I can recall include descriptions of vivid colors, fire, intense light, etc...

Plus, as my wife reminds me from time to time, "Hun, people lie."

 
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 08:46:43 AM »

So this man received a glorified body (to enter heaven), then went back to his original sin-body?

Doesn't this contradict the scriptures?
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 08:53:59 AM »

They've replicated these exact types of experiences in the lab.  His experience proves nothing and this so called man of science should know this.
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 06:14:19 AM »

You know, I'd love to belief this and I'll give the benefit of the doubt, but at first blush I'm inclined to feel the same way.   From what I gather, he was a nominal Christian (as so many are) and was in a coma.  That said, I don't think he was a born again Christian, but is a man that believes in God and assoicates himself with the Christian church but isn't quite sure about how he truly feels.  Plus, the description of God in darkness is contrary to what is presented in scripture.  All descriptions of heaven I can recall include descriptions of vivid colors, fire, intense light, etc...

Plus, as my wife reminds me from time to time, "Hun, people lie."

 

Man of Steel, we should make you an honorary member of the heathen club - that way you get the best of both worlds: great savings using our club discount and eternal salvation courtesy of Jesus! Grin

But in all seriousness, that's why I like you: you are a sensible guy, and although you have certain beliefs you don't put blinders on. It's a rare quality.

I agree with you. This guy had a set of beliefs which he chose to use to interpret this experience. His approach to this is hardly scientific, but hey... as long as he's happy, that's fine by me.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 02:31:53 PM »

Man of Steel, we should make you an honorary member of the heathen club - that way you get the best of both worlds: great savings using our club discount and eternal salvation courtesy of Jesus! Grin

But in all seriousness, that's why I like you: you are a sensible guy, and although you have certain beliefs you don't put blinders on. It's a rare quality.

I agree with you. This guy had a set of beliefs which he chose to use to interpret this experience. His approach to this is hardly scientific, but hey... as long as he's happy, that's fine by me.

AHAAHAHAH!!!  "the heathen club"
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 02:38:58 PM »



Plus, as my wife reminds me from time to time, "Hun, people lie."

 

That's a talent right there.
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 02:58:42 AM »

You know, I'd love to belief this and I'll give the benefit of the doubt, but at first blush I'm inclined to feel the same way.   From what I gather, he was a nominal Christian (as so many are) and was in a coma.  That said, I don't think he was a born again Christian, but is a man that believes in God and assoicates himself with the Christian church but isn't quite sure about how he truly feels.  Plus, the description of God in darkness is contrary to what is presented in scripture.  All descriptions of heaven I can recall include descriptions of vivid colors, fire, intense light, etc...

Plus, as my wife reminds me from time to time, "Hun, people lie."

 

Your wife sounds pretty cool and intelligent.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 09:11:29 AM »

Your wife sounds pretty cool and intelligent.

She's very cool and keeps me grounded when I start gettin a bit nuts.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 01:12:13 PM »

Your wife sounds pretty cool and intelligent.

you must be psychic... the only thing I got from that post is that she has a penchant for stating the obvious.
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